Bond Arms--Do they need more calibers?

Autodidactic said:
Did you torture yourself with a .357 range experience yet? I only needed one.
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Well, I must admit, I am buying too many guns too fast. I was planning on taking the 9mm and instead took the new 1911, but also did take the 9mm except it did not get a lot of time. So I only shot 24 rounds. Six each of 105 grain, 130 grain, and 158 grain in .38 and 158 grain in .357. They predictably were progressively more recoil as the grain size increased and as I switched to .357. Hard to tell, but I did not find the .357 to be terrible, but not something I want to shoot much more of in this gun. I got the barrel more for the .38 so I could enjoy some softer shooting. I would like to compare the .357 to the .45 Colts but by the time I screw the other barrel on my feel for the .357 will be somewhat lost. Need two whole guns side by side. I will say that 250 grain .45 Colts were a bear but 180 grain cowboy .45 Colts were easy.
 
aaaaa said:
A 9mm is not a bad idea. Shorter cartridge than a .38 so a little more barrel and presumably a little more rifling.

I would get the steel frame to save a lot of money and for durability, or do they have hardened inserts at the wear points.
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For 9mm on I’d get the steel. My Bond Arms 9mm, all steel, has stout recoil. The stinger I’m sure is worse.
 
BigBlue 94 said:
221 fireball would be interesting...
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About as interesting as a train wreck in my opinion.

Even as a "low power" rifle round, it still needs several inches of barrel to be effective.

I have a Remington Model 700 and two Contender carbines chambered in 221, one is a 22" Bullberry barrel, the other is a 10" 22 Hornet barrel rechambered for 221 Rem Fireball.

The Bullberry 221 Fireball carbine produces about the best groups of all the rifles that I have. Groups from the 10" rechambered barrel are good but not great.

My Super 14 barrel chambered in 7mm International Rimmed does well out to 200 meters.

And I'm a fan of 221 Rem Fireball.
 
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aaaaa said:
A 9mm is not a bad idea. Shorter cartridge than a .38 so a little more barrel and presumably a little more rifling.

I would get the steel frame to save a lot of money and for durability, or do they have hardened inserts at the wear points.
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The main reason I would go 9mm is so I can have a cheap, available ammo to shoot and with these derringers I'm not going to go thru much ammo in a range trip. Normally I'd reload ammo, but the primer shortage is still not over. Were it, I would get the .32 barrel.

Thinking more on it tho, I do like loading .38 with two 000 buck pellets and they are definitely effective, as are CCI birdshot. Yeah, I guess the way things are now I'd end up with 3 barrels.

I'm gonna wait tho, given the lower price these Stingers are bound to show up on the used market in high numbers shot very little once people realize how much recoil they have and I don't want to find myself in a Midland Arms situation where more barrels are promised, but never delivered.
 
my gun budget is shot (pun intended) but a b.a. stinger rs 22lr steel model is on the way. i already have a regular 22lr barrel, which works fine but feels “top-heavy” in the regular b.a. derringer frame for such a low-recoiling round. now if only b.a. would kindly offer a swappable 32 barrel for its slim stinger model!
 
TTv2 said:
The main reason I would go 9mm is so I can have a cheap, available ammo to shoot and with these derringers I'm not going to go thru much ammo in a range trip. Normally I'd reload ammo, but the primer shortage is still not over. Were it, I would get the .32 barrel.

Thinking more on it tho, I do like loading .38 with two 000 buck pellets and they are definitely effective, as are CCI birdshot. Yeah, I guess the way things are now I'd end up with 3 barrels.

I'm gonna wait tho, given the lower price these Stingers are bound to show up on the used market in high numbers shot very little once people realize how much recoil they have and I don't want to find myself in a Midland Arms situation where more barrels are promised, but never delivered.
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Another thing, being higher pressure, the 9mm tests for Bond Arms see higher velocities compared to the big and slow revolver, low pressure cartridges.

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Pistolay said:
If they can make a derringer in .22lr, I don't understand why they can't make one in .22WMR. I'd buy one.
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if you can try shooting 22wmr (even handgun-specific ammo) out of a comparably short-barreled handgun, e.g. a naa mini revolver, you may find that it offers alot of distracting flashbang for too little actual result. b.a. did offer a 22wmr barrel awhile ago but no more.
 
jstert said:
if you can try shooting 22wmr (even handgun-specific ammo) out of a comparably short-barreled handgun, e.g. a naa mini revolver, you may find that it offers alot of distracting flashbang for too little actual result. b.a. did offer a 22wmr barrel awhile ago but no more.
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Actually, I did own an NAA Black Widow convertible a few years ago. I posted this pic on their forum. It's the WMR cylinder at 25 feet. I've never liked revolvers, but I regret selling this one.

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jstert said:
if you can try shooting 22wmr (even handgun-specific ammo) out of a comparably short-barreled handgun, e.g. a naa mini revolver, you may find that it offers alot of distracting flashbang for too little actual result. b.a. did offer a 22wmr barrel awhile ago but no more.
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I doubt anyone would carry the .22 Mag over a centerfire caliber in the Bonds. The only reason they offer the .22 LR is how cheap ammo is.
 
I don't see any reason you could not fire a 32 ACP or a 32 S&W short or long in a Bond designed for the 327 Federal Magnum.
 
Tall said:
I don't see any reason you could not fire a 32 ACP or a 32 S&W short or long in a Bond designed for the 327 Federal Magnum.
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There's no issue shooting them, but there could be issues if the primers get impaled on the firing pin after being slammed against the recoil shield.
 
TTv2 said:
There's no issue shooting them, but there could be issues if the primers get impaled on the firing pin after being slammed against the recoil shield.
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The 32 ACP is a rimmed cartridge like all the others. It's not going to be subject to anything that any other 32 caliber cartridge would see the exact same way.
 
Tall said:
The 32 ACP is a rimmed cartridge like all the others. It's not going to be subject to anything that any other 32 caliber cartridge would see the exact same way.
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Seams like a simple cartridge for both the Stinger frame and full size frame.
 
.32 ACP rim is 0.045" thick (1.1 mm)

.327 Fed Magnum rim is 0.055" thick (1.4 mm)

Might matter if the .32 is run in a gun designed for the .327?
 
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i have a 327mag barrel and happily shoot 32long and 32short. in reply to my specific email query bond arms replied to definitely not shoot 32acp through it, no further explanation offered or sought.
 
jstert said:
i have a 327mag barrel and happily shoot 32long and 32short. in reply to my specific email query bond arms replied to definitely not shoot 32acp through it, no further explanation offered or sought.
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I almost bought a .327 barrel to shoot .32 ACP and .32 Long, but then began seeing mixed views online about whether it's a good idea.
 
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