Bush: Can't we all just get along?

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Memo to the President: Tell them to stop marching with MEXICAN flags!

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-032406protest_lat,0,1662563.story?coll=la-home-headlines
From the Los Angeles Times
School Walkouts Protest Immigration Proposals
By Anna Gorman and Michelle Keller
Times Staff Writers

2:15 PM PST, March 24, 2006

A day before organizers planned to rally downtown against U.S. border restrictions, hundreds of students walked out of four high schools in Los Angeles this morning to march for immigrant rights.

The atmosphere was festive as 500 Huntington Park High School students waved Mexican flags, held balloons colored green, white and red, and periodically broke into cheers of "Mexico! Mexico!"

"Without immigrants, this country wouldn't be anything," said Anna Benitez, 15, a ninth-grade student who moved to Los Angeles at age 5 with her mother from Mexico. "We're people. We're human beings. We're not criminals. We're in this country to work."

In a separate demonstration, another 1,500 students converged on Evergreen Park in Boyle Heights after walking out of classes at Garfield High School, Montebello High School and Roosevelt High School, according to Rafael Escobar, a Los Angeles Unified School District official.

The demonstration lasted about an hour, Escobar said.

"They are saying that we are terrorists, when the economy is based on immigrants," said William Pasillas, 14, of Garfield High School. He said his parents came from Mexico 30 years ago and are now citizens of the United States.

"They do good now, but why shouldn't other people get that opportunity?" said Pasillas.

A Montebello High School student, Jeannette Garcia, 15, said she participated to "make sure the Mexicans get their freedom, their rights."

The march Saturday is being organized to protest proposed federal legislation criminalizing illegal immigrants and erecting a wall along the U.S.-Mexican border. The issue has prompted protests throughout the country, with thousands massing today in Phoenix and in Milwaukee on Thursday, according to wire service accounts.

Locally, students walked out of Huntington Park High School about 8:10 a.m. Some 200 marched to nearby Bell High School, and another 200 went to South Gate High School, according to Ellen Morgan, spokesperson for the Los Angeles Unified School District.

"It's not fair what they're doing to the Mexicans," said Lizette Hernandez, 16. "They only want them to get visas, and then they want to kick them out."

Sauly Tinoco, 17, one of the protesters, said, "It's been very peaceful, so far. No one has been arrested. There haven't been any fights."

Bell and South Gate high schools were locked down before the Huntington Park marchers arrived.

Morgan said all the protesters were headed back to Huntington Park High School as of 11:30 a.m.

"We welcome freedom of speech and schools are encouraged to provide a forum for discussion on campus. But the district does not condone students trying to enter other campuses and disrupting the educational process," Morgan said.

Some 73% of the 877,010 LAUSD students this year are Latino, Morgan said. Huntington Park High School has about 2,850 students.

Saturday's march is being organized by several organizations, including the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles.
 
"America is a nation of immigrants, and we're also a nation of laws," Bush said in his weekly radio address.

"When illegal immigrants know they will be caught and sent home, they will be less likely to break the rules, and our immigration system will be more orderly and secure."

What happened to Compassion, Mr. Bush? Doesn't that trump the laws in your mind? That's the impression you've been giving us for the last five years.
 
Bush's words on this matter are empty. Its an election year, and he is saying what he thinks he needs to say, but has no intention of doing anything to halt the illegal invasion. His friends and supporters need the cheap labor.
 
longeyes said:
From the plans I see being floated two things will emerge:

a) We will be flooded--I mean REALLY flooded--with new immigrants, especially from Mexico.

b) The newcomers will be--let me use a nice word--emboldened by having been legitimized by our government.

I give this situation a few years before all-out ethnic conflict breaks out.

I hope I'm wrong.
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Unfortunately, you're right on the money. And it's started already.... :uhoh:

The question now is: when will the legals start shooting back?... :scrutiny:
 
what would be the cost to send local LE and federal agents to all major population centers known to have high numbers of illegal aliens, go to job sites, demand identification, detain those that do not have it, and deport them immediately? this is the platform i want to see. in addition, the detainees would be thoroughly questioned, LE would do all they could to identify non-working relatives, and they would summarily be detained and deported as well.

as far as the legality of all of it, i'm not sure. but really, who cares? our government, more and more has so little concern for the law that it really shouldn't be an issue.
 
And that is the platform you will never see. If .gov wanted to crack down on employers, they could and they would have. They don't want to.

I am not optimistic about our government doing anything to really deal with this problem. I believe that whatever finally is done will come from the people and only from the people, for better or worse.
 
From Jorge's radio address today:

Finally, comprehensive immigration reform requires a temporary worker program that will relieve pressure on our borders. This program would create a legal way to match willing foreign workers with willing American employers to fill jobs that Americans will not do.
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And there you have it.

(What jobs won't Americans do, anyway...?)
 
One of two things is up. Bush is politically tone deaf to an extent inconsistent with his past performance, OR he is beholding to someone or something else and that his political base in inconsequential.

I leave it to the reader to pick which is preferrable. :scrutiny:
 
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Sometimes I think, "Bush is alright." Then he opens his mouth and I realize that he is a lost cause.
 
The Solution is SIMPLE

1. Deport all existing illegals, and burn their Mexican flags in the streets. How dare they wave their socialist symbols in our country?

2. Keep them out, using as much force as is necessary. I'm not kidding--they've run this country down to the point that people are doubting their illegitmacy here? This has got to stop, once and for all.

3. Cancel the welfare state, and smile as all those "jobs Americans won't do" are quickly filled by formerly lazy Americans who had been getting The Handout.

There is no such thing as "criminalizing undocumented workers," Hitlery. They are already criminals.

I especially would like to see the idiot 9th-grader deported, with her BS about "We're not criminals, we're here to work." News flash: You ARE criminals. That's what "illegal" means. Go "work" where you belong.

Any weaker alternatives will eventually result in a USA full of illegal immigrants with voting "rights" given to them by politicians all too eager to sell America out. How do you think the little socialists will vote? Hmmm? You can kiss the Constitution goodbye when 12-20 million Mexicans are voting in every election.
 
Anticipating turbulent debate over immigration, President Bush urged Congress on Thursday to grapple with the emotional issue in a way that avoids pitting groups against each other.
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What groups would that be - U.S. Citizens who want secure borders vs. foreign criminals?
If you are doing a job that Americans won't do, you're welcome here . . .
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If there are jobs that "Americans won't do" then the welfare/public assistance rolls must be 100% free of able bodied individuals, and unemployment must be 0.00%, right? Otherwise, these people WOULD be doing those jobs . . . at least, if they wanted to eat.

And as for the protests . . . INS (or is ICE now the correct acronym?) could have made a sizable dent in the illegal population just by cordoning off the protest and checking ID. Fake ID, and it's Adios, Amigo!
 
1. Deport all existing illegals, and burn their Mexican flags in the streets. How dare they wave their socialist symbols in our country?

2. Keep them out, using as much force as is necessary. I'm not kidding--they've run this country down to the point that people are doubting their illegitmacy here? This has got to stop, once and for all.

3. Cancel the welfare state, and smile as all those "jobs Americans won't do" are quickly filled by formerly lazy Americans who had been getting The Handout.
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I think you realize that these are the planks of a U.S. government that doesn't exist and can only exist in the direst extreme, not that this means it won't arrive. You would have to cashier the entire existing political establishment in order to effect this. Perhaps the time to cross the Rubicon is coming, but not yet.
 
It's either gonna be the Rubicon or the Styx. I'll take the Rubicon.;)
Biker
 
I think it is another bad idea we can chalk up to Bush. He certainly seems to have no problem coming up with bad ideas.
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My Grandfather would have put more like - "this moron could screw up a ball bearing with a rubber hammer". In a more serious vein, the political operatives in both parties see the immigrant issue (read hispanic) as an opportunity to add to their respective bases so they are going to roll over to accomodate the illegals; the unions see the immigrants (illegal and legal) as their salvation as they can organize all of the exploited and revive the union's power; the big businesses who depend on cheap labor believe that they need the illegals (and legals) to exploit for profit; the hand wringing blissninnies see them as the next cause celebrity (sp?); the congress-critters see this issue as yet another hot potato that they will get burned by at the polls regardless of what they do so they won't do anything.

In the mean times guess who is getting hosed with the bill.
 
Bush is right about how to deal with immigration and has been all along. I haven't heard one idea that sounded a bit better and any more realistic.
 
Real Gun, I think his plan is flawed..

Guest workers will cost employers more to hire than illegals.

There will thus still be a demand for illegals, so they will keep coming, and continue to be hired by employers looking for cheap labor. It will change nothing.
 
RealGun...

Your post concerning how Bush is approaching this subject seem to indicate so.
Biker
 
Bush is right about how to deal with immigration and has been all along. I haven't heard one idea that sounded a bit better and any more realistic.
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Bush and "realistic" are like water and oil. To borrow from George Bernard Shaw, his policies are the triumph of hope over experience.
 
Real Gun, I think his plan is flawed..

Guest workers will cost employers more to hire than illegals.

There will thus still be a demand for illegals, so they will keep coming, and continue to be hired by employers looking for cheap labor. - Lone_Gunman
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I don't doubt that a comprehensive plan is needed, but at the outset you are not going to round up and deport 11 million people.
 
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