Car load of punks shows up at my house...

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My 3 year-old is in the pool and my pregnant wife is about to join him. I'm barefoot in the garden planting peppers. Then I hear someone hauling ass up my gravel driveway (my Spider Sense[tm] is tingling!). :scrutiny:

A car stops about 100 feet away and I see a young man get out of the car and then get back in and the car slowly starts coming towards us. I start walking towards the car - there are four young men in the car and they aren't responding to my "Can I help you?" About this time I'm really wishing I had something more persuasive in my hand than a planter pack of Serannos. :eek:

The driver is on a cell phone and won't acknowledge me as I reach the car. I tell them to turn around and leave - just as a sheriff's car comes up the driveway with his lights on. :neener:

I got out of the way and got my familiy inside the house as the officer is yelling at the occupants to stay in the car. I felt a little better once I got in the house and got a firearm in my hands. Whatever was going to happen it wasn't going to include one of those kids getting into my house near my family.

Long story short, this was a case of a young driver making a poor choice after getting tagged doing 77 in a 55 zone and picking my rural driveway as a getaway spot. It could have been a lot worse and I was caught unprepared.

Does anyone have advice for ways to covertly and securely keep firearms in, say, a garage or pole barn? I don't want it to be hard to get to or access when I need it, but I don't want it to attract attention or be easily stolen.
 
First defense is a gate. My driveway is 900 feet of crushed concrete, and if I don't keep the gate closed it's like a major freeway! Every T, D and H in the county thinks he needs to drive down it! I use a Mighty Mule solar gate opener, btw.

And I keep an SKS in the barn...
 
Why can't you Conceal Carry? In fact if your on your own property you can carry openly I believe. But not knowing where your located I could be wrong.
 
Slow, you can carry any way you like in 50 states on your property. Though planting veggies barefoot wouldn't qualify for pistol duty in most places.
 
carry a pistol on u. i do most of the times, even around the house. the one thing u half to remember, like me, is ur young ones runnin around. the guns cannot be in reach of them, as everyone should know.

do not use or get an sks. they r not reliable or accurate. u need a revolver of high cal. or a shot gun w/ sum buckshot. i wouldnt leave a gun out side ether. it will get rusty on ya. take one out w/ u when u go and put it up high sum where out of reach of the yung uns. use common sense bout itdick
 
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Though planting veggies barefoot wouldn't qualify for pistol duty in most places.
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I'd say that in this day and age, any activity should be acompanied by a friend. I've felt kinda odd working in the back yard OC with my full-size 40, but I felt safe.
 
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A man on his own property, tendin' to his own business can carry a sidearm however he wishes. Gardening and layin' around the pool with the wifemate and the kids...A smith M-37 snub .38 on the belt would barely be noticed by the wearer or the casual observer, and could well be a life saver. Living in the sticks, or even in the city or suburbs on a piece of property that's hidden from view is nice...but always be aware that the very privacy that you love and long for also has several distinct disadvantages. If you'd rather that the children not know about the gun, a light shirt will go a long way toward keeping it a secret from them...but probably not completely unless you're very careful.

The gate is also a good idea. A pair of large dogs to act as an early warning system is another one. Big dogs loose on the property...or even fenced, but quickly loosed by the owner...do a lot to keep an honest man honest.
 
Here`s what I used to do on my secluded 5 acre piece of property.
Forget the interlopers. I had very large rattlesnakes( on occasion)
roaming about. Plus other critters,
That being said i always had my 22 pistol with me when ever I was out and about. As I had/have several dogs and they were always with me, running all over the place the chance of them going eye ball to eye ball with a rattler was very real.
Had to dispatch several large (5ft plus) rattlesnakes as they were to close to the house.
Back to interlopers. like I said I always had my .22 with me. Always felt
safe.
 
That's the first time I've heard of a SKS thats not reliable, DCPelton. The one that I had worked 100%, all the time. And it could shoot better than 3moa, also.
 
My neighborhood is relatively new and we get a LOT of traffic through here. Most don't live here. It's more usual than not for me to be carrying, either openly or possibly just under my Tshirt. My equalizer is always at hand. It tends to keep the riff raff away when I'm open carrying and the neighbors don't seem to mind. I have been questioned about it by one neighbor and after explaining, she found it very acceptable for someone to be armed while out working in the yard.
 
I second Tuner on the dog(s). Large barkies (even if they just want to "play" with the new arrivals) are a big deterrent to most lowlifes. I had one sat TV technician who would not even get out of his truck until I had locked up my 13YO Dobie who was so arthritic he could barely get around. But he had one big mean-looking face!

On the gun thing, I just keep a holstered handgun convenient and hidden under a towel or shirt or newspaper or some such. Move it around as needed to keep it handy.

TC
 
keltec P-32 in my pocket cutting the lawn or whatever... Hopefully enough to fight my way to my AR if needed.

We live on a very secluded piece of property. All kinds of vehicles get lost and po up on our dead end dirt road.
 
Dogs

I have a Shepherd mix and a pitt mix that usually bark at EVERYTHING - they stay in the back yard with a chain link fence. I guess since we were out in the yard, maybe they got a bit relaxed. They didn't make a peep until the cop was leaving!
 
DCPelton,...I don't know what you are basing you SKS comments on. I'm sure there are some bad SKSs out there but I wouldn't generalize like.

From what I hear from folks who shoot them a lot, they are some of the most dependable semi rifles ever built. As for accurate, they may not be your choice for tack driver duty or the first gun you grab is you need to strike a match at 100 yds, but mine and many others are good for MOBG (minute of bad guy) accuracy.

As for a gun that will endure humidity, dust, mud, grit, grime, hammer duty and so on, and hold ten rounds of persuasive property protection, I think the SKS would be an ideal barn/garage/tool shed gun.
 
If I lived in the sticks I would carry while doing yard work. A gate would be great to keep 90% of the casual traffic out.

At the "farm" we always had a couple rifles/shotguns in the garage.

Navy_guns...my dog is the same way. If I am in the yard with him he doesn't bark at anything. Guess he figures I can hear it too?
 
If you want to store a pistol, buy a lockable electrical box from Home Depot, the kind that usually has fuses or circuit breakers inside. Whatever you keep inside of it, make sure it's stainless and/or very well oiled and maintained. If you use a keyed lock, you can store the key in push-button lockbox like this: http://victorystore00.stores.yahoo.net/supslimpusbu.html. I have one for my spare key at home.
 
I lived on rural property 3 miles down a dirt road. The nearest neighbor was a few miles away. Impossible to order a pizza...but I digress...

We had a big sign at the front of the road. "PRIVATE DRIVE: KEEP OUT" The sign was painted in red letters on a white background on a 4*8 sheet of plywood. (Keep that in mind...)

I always kept a rifle on two hooks above the door and whenever I heard anybody coming down the road, I'd have the rifle by the time they were clearing the treeline. When I was on the tractor, I had the rifle in a rack behind the seat. Whenever I was anywhere on property, I either had a pistol on me or wasn't more than 20 steps from a rifle.

I found that I had a pretty regular stream of traffic down my dirt road. People would clear the tree line and find me standing there with a rifle. About half the people would immediately turn around and leave. Another 25% would sit there for a little while, and then turn around and leave. The remainder would drive all the way up to the house and ask stupid questions. "Do you know where such-and-such is?" or "Do you know where so-and-so lives?"

I would always respond with, "Didn't you see the sign?"

Invariably the response was, "What sign?" :banghead:

To fully appreciate this picture, you also have to understand that when I worked on my own property here in the deep south, it was my usual habit not to wear any clothes. (Washing clothes was a hell of a drain on my water an electric. Seeing how I was mostly off-grid, it was more efficient to just wash me than wash clothes...)

So...there I am STARK NAKED HOLDING A RIFLE...and granny is STILL gonna drive up to the house to ask me stupid questions. The sherrif got a complaint one time and came out to see me. That was a pretty interesting conversation...

I finally put up a gate and didn't have any more uninvited visitors.

Nio
 
Pocket gun. I carry a .45/.410 derringer around to kill snakes and the occasional other pest when working in the garden. I keep it loaded with some #2 birdshot. I also keep a couple of rounds of .45LC in the shirt pocket for larger pests. Since it is so small and light I barely notice it. Not everyone can shoot one of these well.
 
So...there I am STARK NAKED HOLDING A RIFLE...
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Ahhh..there's your problem. In THAT condition, you should have been up on the roof of your home. :D

Another vote for a good gate at the end of your drive Navy_Guns. My Ex's family lived out in the boonies and had a continual issue with people using their property as a turn around point until they put up a gate.
 
Gate sounds good, too

I'm liking the gate idea. Where do you get those, Tractor Supply Company? I'd have to get a remote operated one - the wife isn't going to tolerate having to get out of the car to open and close a gate, even in the best weather. We have parked her van in a natural choke point on the driveway when we go out of town - can't drive around it to either side. I figure if someone is going to break in while I'm gone and steal stuff, at least they'll get tired hauling the stuff 100 yards to their vehicle. That spot would be ideal for a gate.

Do those remote operated ones lock closed so they can't just be forced open?

Wait - gotta keep this on topic... can I use the gate as cover to shoot back at the zombies?
 
Wireless Driveway Alarm

Went to a friends Christmas Tree farm in Central Texas.
His dad has about 160 acres of Christmas trees, Pecan, Peach, and yards decoration trees.

I noticed he left his gate open during the day.
At the gate is a little device about 1 foot off of the ground with a little solar panel. It is behind the gate and set back about a foot.

Now, when a car comes through his open gate a doorbell(alarm) goes off is his house. He walks out jumps on his 4-wheeler and heads downhill to his tree.
By the time the "customer" is at his trees he's already there waiting for them.

Smart setup.
 
I also live in the backwoods, about 800' off the main road. We have a no trespassing sign up but the stinking ivy keeps growing over it so we sometimes have un-expected visitors drive down our driveway for U turns & the like. Happily, I've never had a experience similar to the OP.:)

I'd reccomend getting that gate.

DCPELTON, I'm not trying to jump on your case but it really helps your case when you use proper grammar & spelling.
 
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