Old Dog
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Yeah, I'm just gonna presume that you're being purposely facetious here.How do you decide which is "the best" for your shooting? I've got a 22 revolver that I shoot a little better than my CCW, so I should switch?
Yeah, I'm just gonna presume that you're being purposely facetious here.How do you decide which is "the best" for your shooting? I've got a 22 revolver that I shoot a little better than my CCW, so I should switch?
If you carry to be happy, then that makes perfect sense....I might as well be happy.
Classes are not really about winning or losing, they are about learning and gaining skills.As far using it in a class against semi autos, I’d lose hands down.
The advice to "try the gun in realistic scenarios" is excellent, but probably not in the way that @Kleanbore meant. He most likely envisions training scenarios including multiple rounds at multiple attackers, tactical reloads, and all the other things that go into modern pistol training.
The facts, of course, show that those scenarios are incredibly unrealistic, to the degree that they almost don't exist at all.
Truly realistic training - scenarios where the overwhelming majority of incidents are resolved by the mere presence of a gun in the hands of a good guy, and the overwhelming majority of the remaining incidents solved with just a few rounds - would demonstrate that the single action revolver is just fine.
Try your gun in realistic defensive training drills and then decide.
This is my understanding.
The fact that some people needed 15+ rounds or extensive training to sir one doesn’t make it the norm. If this happens to be my case I’ll likely not survive.
The fact that some people needed 15+ rounds or extensive training to sir one doesn’t make it the norm. If this happens to be my case I’ll likely not survive.
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Here’s how I carry. I also carry a reload in that pouch forward of the holster. I do practice my draw from concealment and getting on target. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
If the test was to quickdraw against a bad guy, and get a round on target faster than him, I’d have a good chance. If the object was to Quickdraw against 4 badguys, since I’m not a gunfighter, I’ll likely get killed no matter the gun I have. This is my thinking atleast.
Thanks.Look back on THR 3-4 years and you'll see that I made very similar posts. Then reality hit. Those people telling you your SA revolver carry is foolish or ill advised, are trying to help you make a more pragmatic choice, that might just save your life.
Thanks.
The problem is desire. Forcing myself to shoot a gun I don’t care for. I tried that. I found myself neglecting to shoot my carry gun for months, sometimes 6 months. It was just a tool. I did however shoot it dry and filthy sometimes to prove it, as that’s the condition it normally was in since I didn’t do much with it.
So my thinking is, carrying a gun I shoot and am proficient with gives me a better chance than a gun I won’t hardly use.
Mentioning ayoob and others is ironic, as part of what helped me form my opinions is reading sixguns by Keith. He talks about using guns for defensive purposes and suggests a double action revolver, and a single action if one is more comfortable or familiar with them. It’s a different school of thought but into the 50s and 60s, it was still acceptable.
He talks about it situational awareness and getting the first shot on target as fast as possible as the important things. He also said misses don’t count. Keith stressed proficiency over fast shooting. And that’s exactly what my common sense tells me.
Becoming proficient with both revolvers and auto loaders, you will find that a 5 shot revolver is more than enough.
I 'envision' defending against a charging attacker at close range, moving at maybe five meters per second, and requiring three or maybe five hits to effect a timely physical stop, with the ability to address a second attacker. That is realistic.The advice to "try the gun in realistic scenarios" is excellent, but probably not in the way that @Kleanbore meant. He most likely envisions training scenarios including multiple rounds at multiple attackers, tactical reloads, and all the other things that go into modern pistol training.
The facts, of course, show that those scenarios are incredibly unrealistic, to the degree that they almost don't exist at all.
And later in life he carried two semiautomatic pistols.Jim Cirillo is another person who has a lot of good insight into the romanticism of revolvers and the reality of their use. He carried up to three revolvers on his person during stakeouts because reloading a revolver is so problematic under stress. Later in his life he was a big fan of semi autos and improving bullet designs.
Thinking about this more. I think you have it almost right. There are two problems though.I see this trend here a lot. Folks say I love my revolver, it looks good, it shoots good, I prefer to shoot it, but I carry an automatic.
I’ll buck the trend.
I once was in this crowd too. I carried a Glock 22, but I shot my revolver. Then I carried a 1911 but shot my revolver. Then I finally just started carrying the gun I like, a single action revolver.
I never trained to be a gunfighter anyways, so I might as well be happy.