CCW at 18?

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Georgia is changing its law for minimum age for a CCW from 21 to 18. Any opinions on if this is a good or bad idea? In MI you can own a handgun at 18 but can only open carry so its really a pain dealing with ppl. Is 18 too young for CCW any criminal would be doing it illegally anyway and uncle sam will trust u with a gun at seventeen.
 
If I can own a gun I don't see why I can't carry it. If I REALLY wanted to carry it to do anything bad I don't think I'd wait to get a CC permit.
 
In my area of Alabama, you can carry at 19. We've never had a problem that I know of.
 
I've been carrying a hand gun my father gave me since I was 18 here in Indiana I'm turning 21 herevin July .. as long as the permit holder is responsible I think its just fine personally .. especially in bad areas.. I work near Gary in, and there are many people around this area including myself who don't leave home without one
 
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Alabama allows concealled carry at 18 however each county sheriff is allowed to set the minimum age for CCW permits for his county(18-21). My county(Blount)is now 21 thanks to our current sheriff but his predecessor set the minimum at 18. I got mine @20 and a friend got his @19.
 
Im not sure how old you have to be. I was surprised a couple years ago when my son (19@ the time) came home and told me "I got my pistol permit today" I said i thought you had to be 21 he said nope sheriff said if i passed the background check he'd give me one. Hes been carrying for 2 years now.
 
jsj127,Alabama state law allows sheriffs,so inclined,to issue CCW permits to 18 year olds. State law also allows sheriffs to raise that age in their county to 21 if they choose.
 
My brother will be applying for his CCW permit in a few weeks when he turns 18. In Alabama carrying in a vehicle is considered "concealed", even if it's in the trunk unloaded and boxed up (unless you're on your way from the place of purchase to your residence). Of course, this means that someone who is 18 and legally owns a pistol, say that they receive as a birthday gift like my brother will get, must go to the range with someone who has a CCW, unless they walk there while carrying openly.

This is why under "reason for applying" he will be putting: "To lawfully carry in a vehicle". Hopefully the sheriff will see that my mom, dad, and I are all CCW permit holders and personal responsibility just runs in the family.
 
I was issued a concealed weapons permit the week I turned 18, and never had any issues (South Dakota)
 
In Alabama carrying in a vehicle is considered "concealed", even if it's in the trunk unloaded and boxed up (unless you're on your way from the place of purchase to your residence).
Or if moving from an old residence to a new one,or taking it to a gunsmith for repairs. The good news is that there is pending legislation(HB-132) which,if passed,will remove car carry from the concealed permit requirement.
 
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Why limit the age at all? It's kinda like alcohol - Italy, which has no age limit for alcohol whatsoever, has a far lower rate of alcoholism than the USA.

Make gun carrying an accepted part of the culture, not a forbidden pleasure.

~D
 
Before 21 years of age being active military and haveing high school deploma , no GED , no misdemeanors as a minor should be a requirement atleast.
 
what does being in the military, or being a high school grad have to do with being able to protect yourself?

Does that also mean that adults that haven't graduated high school should be prohibited from carrying?
 
hardluk1, What is your reason for saying that? Is there something magical that happens at age 21 that makes a person suddenly a responsible, level-headed adult? As others have pointed out, the right to carry is a God-given right, not to be restricted AT ALL unless an individual gives you very good reason to restrict his rights (i.e. the right to carry must obviously suspended for felons in prison). I know some 15-year-olds that I believe are very capable of carrying, while I know of some 30+ years that still aren't adults.

It comes down to the parents' training, not some arbitrary age.

~D
 
You're legally able to be locked in the bog boy slammer, you're allowed to die for this country, you're allowed to operate a one ton missile going 60 miles an hour for about two years already and for some reason there's any doubt as to whether you should be legally carrying. Odd.
I don't see BLOOD IN THE STREETS! because an 18 year old has to get the same training as everyone else who has managed avoiding BLOOD IN THE STREETS! thus far.
 
Is 18 too young for CCW any criminal would be doing it illegally anyway and uncle sam will trust u with a gun at seventeen.

Believe it or not fear of prosecution does in fact influence criminal behavior. What my concern though is the younger a person is the less likely they are to make wiser decisions and have lower impulse control.

Is there something magical that happens at age 21 that makes a person suddenly a responsible, level-headed adult?

Does something magical happen at 5 that makes a kid ready for kindergarten? How about at 16 to drive a car? Or 18 to join the military, watch porn, have sex with an adult or vote? Or 17 to be tried as an adult or 21 to buy beer? Age restrictions are of course not perfect but a case by case examination is completely impractical.

Why limit the age at all? It's kinda like alcohol - Italy, which has no age limit for alcohol whatsoever, has a far lower rate of alcoholism than the USA.

Simply not true: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1913176,00.html
 
Italy, which has no age limit for alcohol whatsoever, has a far lower rate of alcoholism than the USA.

Well, on the chance of going OT on this one, a factor that we do have to point out here is that "alcoholism" is a societal norm, not an actual you know ... germ/immune system type disease. That's just rhetoric.

And frankly what is considered "alcoholism" here is considered three drinks a week, "habitual drinking" (like a beer for dinner or a glass of wine) or something along those lines. So if an Italian, German or whatever reports five beers a week "habitually" they are an "American Alcoholic" while being a "German Pushover."

But in any case, back on topic it is true that this "case by case examination" is utterly impractical, arbitrary limits do have to be set. And in line with that, if they cant carry in a civilian line, they shouldn't be able to carry in the military, either. So ... what's so bad about 18?
 
what does being in the military, or being a high school grad have to do with being able to protect yourself?

Does that also mean that adults that haven't graduated high school should be prohibited from carrying?
Those are simply qualifications for accessing that specific aspect of your rights early.

People who haven't graduated can still carry at the normal age.

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