CHP Card Question

[Good Ol' Boy]

So my CHP finally came in the mail yesterday, *a round of applause*. But I was a little bummed to find just a piece of paper that needed to be laminated.

From what I had researched online I was expecting something "hard" like a DL.

Just curious as to what other folks have received so that future people might be prepared as to what to expect, and out of my own curiosity.

 

[Warp]

So my CHP finally came in the mail yesterday, *a round of applause*. But I was a little bummed to find just a piece of paper that needed to be laminated.

From what I had researched online I was expecting something "hard" like a DL.

Just curious as to what other folks have received so that future people might be prepared as to what to expect, and out of my own curiosity.

It varies completely by state. In Indiana it was a piece of 8.5x11 paper (pink) that you cut a square out of to be your license, and it was highly recommended to get it laminated yourself. They have since upgraded and it is like a DL.

GA, when I got my first GFL, it was a laminated piece of (white) paper that was massively over laminated (square inch wise), you had to carefully cut it back to try to fit in your wallet. It is now like a driver license.

New Hampshire was more like a DL years ago.

 

[BinRat]

In Wisconsin, it's a simple hard plastic rectangle, like a DL. It's very plain, white, with the information in black letters, and the only color being the state crest. In fact, mine is coming up for it's 5 year renewal and when I called the Attorney General's office due to a problem renewing online, I asked the clerk whether the new card would be the same, to which she replied that it would. I joked that it's a pretty boring card, and she laughed and said that might be, but that's part of how they keep the cost down. The 5 year renewal will cost $22.

 

[Warp]

Go to this site. Click on a state. Scroll down. There are examples pictures of that state's license/permit

http://www.handgunlaw.us/

 

[MedWheeler]

Florida's is also a "hard card", like a driver's license..

 

[acdodd]

Washington's permit is a piece of paper.
When I got my original the local cop said I could not laminate it.
He had no reason just I couldn't do it.
I did it anyhow.
Renewal every 5 years and now the local sheriff's office will laminate it for a small fee.
It should be a hard card like our DL with a picture but I'm not in charge.

 

[cjwils]

Yes, Washington state's concealed pistol permit is just paper. But it is very good paper with very good ink. Mine accidentally went through the washing machine and came out intact and still completely readable.

 

[Speedo66]

My NYC carry permit is like a drivers license. Funny thing is, although it does say "unrestricted concealed carry handgun license" on top, and "special carry" on the bottom, it literally does not say NYC anywhere on it. Just a faint NYPD shield imposed under everything pertinent printed on the front of the card. The back, where they list your handguns, has a faint image of the NYC seal.

 

[Good Ol' Boy]

Go to this site. Click on a state. Scroll down. There are examples pictures of that state's license/permit

http://www.handgunlaw.us/

I've checked there before and it's why I thought it would be a hard card like a DL.


http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/virginia.pdf


Yes there are several examples but note the one that looks like a DL has the latest expiration date. I assumed that might be the latest type they were issuing and the others were older examples. Or maybe it varies by county?

Mine is the first one at the top of the pictures.

 

[Tirod]

MO? You get a hard card. But there is so much more than that.

You also get fingerprinted so they can have them on file in advance - which is a pre crime measure as far as I'm concerned. We also are forced to take a training class which costs money, along with nearly the same fees to administrate the system. That makes it unaffordable to the poor - which is another way to disenfranchise the very people who might need protection the most.

If you can plunk down the price of an LCP for training and a CCW then you are more likely to live in a neighborhood where the property values preclude violence. And we discuss that fact on Home Defense threads constantly. Crime in McMansionville is much lower than in the inner city. It's based on population density - live where it's lower and crime is also lower in general. But it takes more money to own more land to do it.

MO isn't alone in exploiting the situation so that only a privileged class can afford the license, but it sure makes the resulting numbers look good. Live on a fixed income and working two jobs part time with health insurance and dropping $200 for the gun and another $200 for the permit isn't an open and fair situation. It's biased. People have much larger needs for food, shelter, and transportation - because if you live in a low population density home, you have to travel a lot further than your legs can carry you to work. And driving that car thru some neighborhoods is also a lot safer than walking thru them.

Not to forget that even if you served to retirement in the Armed Forces with training on multiple weapons, as an MP, you get zero credit toward your qualification. Let's add a heaping dose of salt to the wound.

So when they hand you the card, or mail it, it's just desserts for participating in the program. Compare that to Constitutional Carry and you begin to see why states are moving toward it. It's the Citizens responsibility to be knowledgeable and trained in carry, not the nanny state. I still remember we had to take Driver's Ed to get a license - but they dropped the program state wide. The parents are admonished to do the job now.

Which has more influence on the State's death toll? Right. It's all about the politics of control.

 

[GBExpat]

So my CHP finally came in the mail yesterday, *a round of applause*. But I was a little bummed to find just a piece of paper that needed to be laminated. ...

All of my licenses have been issued by the Commonwealth of Virginia.

For the past couple of decades I have laminated my permits. The first couple of times at Kinko's, before I acquired a small document laminator.

My earliest ones were of a heavier card stock and seal-embossed:



Notice that it states concealed weapon rather than handgun.


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[Kleanbore]

MO isn't alone in exploiting the situation so that only a privileged class can afford the license,...

Don't forget that counties are permitted to charge a fee higher than the statutorily established amount only if they can provide audible proof that that would be justified by the cost.

MO isn't alone in exploiting the situation so that only a privileged class can afford the license, but it sure makes the resulting numbers look good.

The cost of the license is by far the smallest element of cost involved.

Compare that to Constitutional Carry and you begin to see why states are moving toward it. It's the Citizens responsibility to be knowledgeable and trained in carry, not the nanny state.

Training, age limits, and restrictions on where people may carry were necessary to get a bill through the legislature and past the governor's veto--by one vote.

Initially, the carry enforcement could be noted on the DL. But someone leaked information, and the DMV was put out of the loop.

 

[Jim Watson]

My county in Alabama has been issuing hard card photo ID permits for several years now.
I understand there are counties still using the old paper form filled in by hand.

 

[JTHunter]

If you want to talk "fees", Illinois is good at sucking the dollars out of your pockets. And not just on gun related fees.

As of now, the FOID card cost $10 to renew (not too bad) but you have to find someplace to get the small size picture they want and they don't seem to like "digital" printed on paper at home, unless that has changed since I renewed a few years ago.

Concealed - $150 application fee - nonrefundable of course. Training that is required before you can apply. As most people have to take the full 16 hours, those costs can run from $150 - $300+, depending on instructor and range costs.

THEN come the fingerprints. You can save $55 by not doing the specialized prints (limited availability) but the ISP tacks on 30 days to your wait time. AND, if you get turned down, or go under "board review", you could wait for over a year for the final outcome, yes OR no!

Illinois Carry Licensing Process forums
http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showforum=27

 

[dwjwin50]

CA has both, but the hard card references the paper license, so the hard card is useless.
The license also specifically states "pistol, revolver, or other firearm", but then it states a list of firearms allowed with their serial numbers.

Fees: $100 for the CCW application, $100 for training, $60 for the background check and fingerprints.

 

[Good Ol' Boy]

Well I feel lucky on the fee's. Hunter safety course is all you need here, $25. Then the court charges $50.

I did find it odd that the circuit court would only accept cash for a CHP application. If I walked across the parking lot to pay some taxes or other registering fee's they'll accept any kind of payment.

I had to leave and drive to the nearest gas station to get cash when I submitted mine.

 

[RovinOn]

PA. Is a photo ID hard card like a drivers license. At one time it was just a piece of paper!

 

[Speedo66]

NYC pistol permit application: 16 pages, a check for $340 and a check for $89.75, plus affid.'s, testimonials, many notarized sheets including spouses OK, plus affid. from someone who will safeguard your weapons in the event you're incapacitated. Add training. Carry permit? LOL

Unless you're applying for a premises permit or hunting or target permit, you're not going to get it anyway.

Here's a link to the official site: http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/permits/HandGunLicenseApplicationFormsComplete.pdf

 

[mdauben]

In AL I think it varies from County to county but when I got mine it was $10 a year for a paper card or for an extra $10 you could get a laminated card like a driver's licence.

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[exbrit49]

Indiana is a flimsy Pink piece of paper!

The Indiana permit is on a piece of pink flimsy paper and you dont have any choice but to laminate it. I would be willing to pay another $10 to have a DL type card, Most of Indiana's licences are "Lifetime" and even the laminated ones dont hold up too well.
I made about 6 copies of the original on pink paper and keep them in my file and will laminate another one as soon as this one gets to hard to read.
Before any one jumps me about making copies, I checked first and as long as NO changes are made and it is a true copy of the original, its legal!

 

[Nano65]

In Texas the LTC is a nice colorful picture ID card like your drivers license. Besides the LTC number it also has your drivers license number on it. It is a legal ID for all state transactions including voting. As a gun owner I love Texas.

 

[Good Ol' Boy]

The Indiana permit is on a piece of pink flimsy paper and you dont have any choice but to laminate it. I would be willing to pay another $10 to have a DL type card, Most of Indiana's licences are "Lifetime" and even the laminated ones dont hold up too well.
I made about 6 copies of the original on pink paper and keep them in my file and will laminate another one as soon as this one gets to hard to read.
Before any one jumps me about making copies, I checked first and as long as NO changes are made and it is a true copy of the original, its legal!

I wondered about copies myself. I erred on the side of caution and just laminated mine with no copies.

Hopefully it holds up.

 

[dragon813gt]

My current one is like the format posted on the website linked above. It's just a laminated piece of paper w/ a fairly poor photo. They gave my a Tyvek sleeve to keep it in. I was really disappointed because my previous one was plastic just like our driver's licenses. It held up really well and I didn't have to baby it. My current one looks pretty rough even though it's in it's sleeve and never comes out of my wallet. I've been meaning to ask the Sheriff if I received the current card because I went to the satellite office. Previous ones were from when they came to the police station in town.

 

[Neo-Luddite]

As said, IL is silly expensive @ 150 for 5 years + a 3 dollar online application fee (never mind that online is the only way you can actually apply....). Add to that the training if you need it, and it will be an easy 300 bucks. The card itself is a *very* fancy counterfeit - proof wonder card with so many holograms and bells and whistles you can go half blind inspecting the thing.

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I've had a PA permit for many years (G-d bless "The Commonwealth"---she honored my rights when my own state abridged them). It was just a piece of paper for years. This last renewal I had to accomplish in person. And although I really don't need the PA permit at all anymore, I was able to journey in person to Centre Co. to get the 'new' photo laminated card. No offense intended, but it looks like a 12 year old made it on an ink jet printer and laminated it with his mom's iron. But for 20 bucks and a journey across several states to obtain it, I'm proud to have it in my wallet.

 

[Warp]

The Indiana permit is on a piece of pink flimsy paper and you dont have any choice but to laminate it. I would be willing to pay another $10 to have a DL type card, Most of Indiana's licences are "Lifetime" and even the laminated ones dont hold up too well.
I made about 6 copies of the original on pink paper and keep them in my file and will laminate another one as soon as this one gets to hard to read.
Before any one jumps me about making copies, I checked first and as long as NO changes are made and it is a true copy of the original, its legal!

I know new lifetime licenses are like a driver license.

So I bet you can get one of the newer 'hard cover' versions