sappnasty
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Love the grain all these new stocks have on them...Kentucky, nice score....now I hope you bought massive amounts of ammo while you were there right?
CMP M1 Garand Service Grade
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Beauty!
Kentucky Jelly
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I am very happy with it. It is a 6 digit serial # too. Jan 1942.
I only bought the one can of ammo. I like to reload. I may order a couple of more for back up ammo. At .50 a round, and 24 clips it is a deal.
I only bought the one can of ammo. I like to reload. I may order a couple of more for back up ammo. At .50 a round, and 24 clips it is a deal.
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Beautiful rifles gentlemen, congrats!!
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Kentucky, VERY nice. Is it a standard service grade? I'm hoping to swing by the north store this summer.
I'm still waiting on my ammo to ship, hope it's any day now.
I'm still waiting on my ammo to ship, hope it's any day now.
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No, I should have mentioned it is a Special. My buddy did score a very nice service grade though, and there were others to be had in pretty good condition.
The ammo looks very good. I hope to shoot it this weekend.
The ammo looks very good. I hope to shoot it this weekend.
gidaeon....CMP stocks have a stain on them, thats all, no BLO, no tung oil...they are just stained. Thats new cmp stocks....I recieved a Birch cmp an Walnut cmp stocks, wasn't liking there stain an took furniture stripping an that pulls the stain out. I then refinished with my own stain an tung oil.....Your new cmp wood will take on a deeper an different look with BLO or Tung oil....so you might like to apply the one of your liking an see if you like it. Then you can decide if you want to refinish it or not......good luck, an nice rifle!
61chalk, are you sure its a stain and not a first light coat of BLO?
The black walnut stocks you can get from CMP say they come with a linseed oil coating (BLO probably?) And the HRA's I bought in 2009 had become slightly darker in the past couple years. Up to this point I haven't done a thing to the stock, but noticed it was a bit darker than when I received it. Plus the feel of the wood has that oily feel to it, even if it doesn't rub off on your hand, stained and unsealed wood doesn't feel that way. Plus I don't think a stain becomes darker with age, does it? (none of the furniture I've made which is older than the CMP stocks has become darker)
The black walnut stocks you can get from CMP say they come with a linseed oil coating (BLO probably?) And the HRA's I bought in 2009 had become slightly darker in the past couple years. Up to this point I haven't done a thing to the stock, but noticed it was a bit darker than when I received it. Plus the feel of the wood has that oily feel to it, even if it doesn't rub off on your hand, stained and unsealed wood doesn't feel that way. Plus I don't think a stain becomes darker with age, does it? (none of the furniture I've made which is older than the CMP stocks has become darker)
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D94R, I have 2 CMP stocks and it's some sort of stain. Looks dirty and muddy on birch. It's not BLO or TO unless they've added some dye. Wood still looks very dry, just darker.
P-32
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Well, crap.....I spent my $ on a .22 instead of M-1 Garand #6. I picked up a pre war Winchester model 61 for $650.00. I stole it because it's worth twice that.
For those who don't know the 61 is a hammerless pump .22. All the 61's were take down models. A neat and handy pump gun Winchester stopped making before the switch to post 64's.
For those who don't know the 61 is a hammerless pump .22. All the 61's were take down models. A neat and handy pump gun Winchester stopped making before the switch to post 64's.
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Is there a way to tell the difference between the different grades after the fact. I have a buddy who got a CMP from an auction that was advertised as "Special Grade" for $900. It does have a new looking barrel, and the stock has the cartouche, etc. But after they're out in the world is there any way to tell just looking at them? (no there's no paperwork)
I'm trying to figure out if I want one; I like the "idea" of them, and I'm familiar witht he platform, but can I ask an honest question? Is there something the M1 has over my Fulton Armory M14? Do I really need to get into another caliber; you know what I'm asking, right? Can someone who has both an M1 and M14 tell me what one might have over the other?
I'm trying to figure out if I want one; I like the "idea" of them, and I'm familiar witht he platform, but can I ask an honest question? Is there something the M1 has over my Fulton Armory M14? Do I really need to get into another caliber; you know what I'm asking, right? Can someone who has both an M1 and M14 tell me what one might have over the other?
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General Disarray All CMP rifles come with a certificate of authenticity. Special grade should have the cartouche on the stock like you said. Other than that the rest of the parts should be the same manufacturer, and freshly parkerized. There are no other marks though.
I have both a M1a, and not a M1 special. I missed out on the M1 carbines, and decided I would not miss out on a M1.
I have both a M1a, and not a M1 special. I missed out on the M1 carbines, and decided I would not miss out on a M1.
D94R...from other forums an what I got, the CMP stocks have a stain only. The Walnut CMP stock set I got, after I put one light rub coat of BLO changed the look completely. I had been under the impression like you that they had already had a light coat of oil already on them...they do not. The dry look is not from dryed out oil. This is even more apparent on the CMP Birch....Birch is a very light wood, they have had them stain them dark to give the appearance of a Walnut, it too looks very dry.
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That depends on what you mean by "special" grade. They have made at least 2 different variations. The "Special/service" grades (offered in both HRA and Springfield variants) have collector grade metal in new stocks. The "springfield special" is about a hundred bucks more, and comes with a new commercial barrel, new walnut stocks, fresh parkerization and maybe some other new non-GI parts.
In any case, either variant is worth about 900 bucks so he did fine IMO. If the barrel is non-GI it's likely a "Springfield Special".
More to the point, without the CMP certificate/paperwork there's no way to certify what grade a particular M1 is, or even if it came via the CMP. (unless the CMP keeps a database of serial numbers... anyone know whether they do?) Anyone can buy a CMP stock and put it on any rifle they like. GI parts are GI parts. And other people sell "correct" M1s, or you can find the right parts in good condition and put one together yourself.
For a while you could get HRA "special/service" grades for about 700 which was the steal of the decade... they're 900 now. I missed out on that.
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FYI here's my service grade HRA as received
and after 20 coats of BLO and a few coats of Tom's 1/3
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I'm trying to figure out if I want one; I like the "idea" of them, and I'm familiar with the platform, but can I ask an honest question? Is there something the M1 has over my Fulton Armory M14? Do I really need to get into another caliber; you know what I'm asking, right? Can someone who has both an M1 and M14 tell me what one might have over the other?
stonecutter2
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The rifles (now) can come with a stock that has a stain applied to it (chocolate color for SA, orange for HRA, as I understand it). This is replacement wood, not USGI. The separate full stock sets sold by the CMP come with one coat of BLO applied to them only...as best I know.
If I am wrong here, anyone else feel free to correct me.
Also, Boiled Linseed Oil and Tung Oil both oxidize which causes the finish to darken/yellow with age. So yes, it's possible your rifles are already darkening a bit.
You guys really need to stop all of these pictures------------really don't want to make that drive.
Real question is paperwork-----------if I just drove out there, south store to purchase, I guess you have to be preapproved on the paperwork to buy or just go and do the paperwork on site?
Any help on this question would be appreciated.
Real question is paperwork-----------if I just drove out there, south store to purchase, I guess you have to be preapproved on the paperwork to buy or just go and do the paperwork on site?
Any help on this question would be appreciated.
Tim the student
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Bring your paperwork (which must be in order) and walk out with a rifle. That is how I bought my first one.
deadeye1122
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1KPerDay, If in 30 days or so when I open my case with a HRA service grade and it's close to as nice as yours i'll be happy as heck. When did you recieve it? Just trying to get a idea on what the CMP is shipping now. I have all kinds of visions of what wiil come. Hopefully Sappnasty is correct that if it comes from the south store it will be great. BTW NICE finish on the stock.I will use tung oil as I did a K-31 and really liked it. I don't know of toms 1/3. Is that a sealer after the blo/tung oil? thx deadeye
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It is my opinion that an M14 is an "improved" M1 Garand, and in that respect I don't think an M1 Garand has anything over the M14, strictly technically-speaking. However, the prices from the CMP for an M1 Garand are phenomenal, and these rifles are pretty historic. Many of the current crop of rifles are some of the best they've had. Some were used in WWII, Korea, or in other conflicts. Some just sat in crates and need a good home.
The "getting into another caliber" is one thing I can understand. However, simply holding an M1 Garand is really quite an experience, and for the price the CMP is letting them go, it's worth it to have one. Even their Garand ammo is fairly priced (308 is expensive, yeah?).
That said, I do not have an M14 or M1A. But I'd really like to get one.
Tim the student
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You're welcome, but I'd give them a call before you left, just to be sure.
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I got that one in June 2008. However, I got this one with (IMO) excellent GI wood a couple of weeks ago.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=576249
I wouldn't count on getting GI wood this nice, but I've seen others who have. I've also seen others that match the grade descriptions, with lots of scratches, dings, etc. The metal is in excellent shape. All my CMP rifles (except for one M1 Carbine) have been in better shape than allowed in their "grade" descriptions. And that carbine had excellent metal and just needed a refinish of the wood. Can't complain.
I had to send my first HRA back to get a doubling issue fixed, but the CMP paid shipping both ways (sent me a UPS shipping label; I didn't even have to go drop the rifle off to ship) and fixed it in about a week. Great folks. You will be happy with your purchase.
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