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Places I've ordered from recently

Cabelas: Good, let me return a cap and ball revolver even though their policy says otherwise. Exchanged for another one.

Missouri Bullet: Good, fast shipping, presence on the board, discount offered.

DS-Arms: Great product, Horrible customer service (lack of communication)

Ambient outdoors: Great selection, free shipping on some stuff, low prices. No complaints
 
Hornady customer service has been great for me. I called them a while back because I had broken a part of a resizing die. I explained to the CS lady that the part was not defective and that I had actually broken it by hitting it with a hammer(please don't ask why...). They sent me two of these parts along with two spare decapping pins and 2 shell plate springs at no charge. I was almost embarrassed as it felt like I had taken advantage of them. I'd guess that their small expenditure for these part bought them a dedicated customer!

Sig customer service was mixed for me. I was having FTE problems with my son's Mosquito. The CS guy was professional, and I sent gun in for repair at their expense. When I got the pistol back with the gunsmith's report, it said he had cleaned it, and test fired it with a Remington ammo, and that it was reliable. They even included the empty ammo box in the package. When I tried the gun with the same ammo, it had the same FTE problem as before. I ended up fixing the Mosquito myself.

Bob
 
MidwayUSA has great customer service. I bought the "slim" 1911 alumagrips by mistake, and sent them back with the return form, and got the grips I wanted free of charge.

Bad- EAA, although I like their products and have never called their CSD, I've e-mailed them questions before and the e-mails I received from them were kind of snotty and sarcastic, and made me feel like an idiot for asking questions. Not impressed.
 
Thumbs up to two holster makers: Milt Sparks and UBG. The Sparks holster did take over five months to get, but this is known and they are up front about it. It did ship within the estimated time frame. They also do not charge your credit card until the order has been completed and is ready to ship. Similarly, UBG does not ask for payment until your order comes up in his queue. The quality of the product in both cases was outstanding, too.
 
Kimber: Very good. I sent a Tactical Ultra II back to them after 8500 rounds to check a possible sear problem. They called to tell me that they had found an unrelated hairline crack in the frame and were sending me a brand new gun. They said it might take a few weeks, depending on production runs, but it arrived at my FFL a few days later.
 
Savage just did right by me. I bought a Mark II BTV, very nice rifle BTW. WHile I was filling the paperwork out, the pinhead behind the counter dry fired it a few times, commenting how I would like the trigger. I asked politely for him not to dry fire it, to which he responded that it was okay. I concurred that dryfiring was okay, but not in rimfires. He said that the manual said it was okay with this model. WRONG!!

Got home and shot my new rifle a couple times with no problems. Examined the cases and saw I was getting REALLY light strikes. Took the bolt out and I could clearly see the mark on the chamber face where the pin had hit and lo and behold the firing pin was slightly peened.

Gave Savage a call and explained the situation. They have the firing pins on backorder but will send me one as soon as they get them in stock, no charge.

They called back the next day to make sure that I had been told the part was on backorder and to expect a wait.

A big part of good customer service is follow up.
 
Usually people only hear when the customer service is bad. So, I thought I would post my recent experience. I just purchased my XDm-45 ( http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=530619 ) and just took it shooting for the second time. The first time I shot 310 rounds and this time after about 100 rounds the gun started jamming on only one magazine. So I marked it and continue firing for another 50 rounds to see if it really was the mag. Well, this one worked fine.

On my way home I called Springfield from my cell phone and described the problem. They took my information the gun's SN and said that they would send me 2 free magazines for my trouble. They did not even want the old mag back. Not a bad deal!
 
Great:
Midway USA. Had an order from them and when it arrived the box looked like the UPS man had jumped on it. When I opened it a box of ammo was broken open and some rounds had fallen out of the hole in the box. When I called they sent me another box free of charge
 
Concerning higher ticket items, customer service goes under a harsh spotlight and a magnifying glass. When something goes wrong, the customer´s significant investment jacks up his/her sensitivity to service response and quality. The companies of course know this and have every means to properly address. For them, there is no excuse for poor service.

Those who really make you feel good about a product, when the purchase level is not so high - they are the customer service heroes.

Wolff Gunsprings
- fixed my order mistake the same day I advised, sent a personal confirmation. Total order value: a piddling $11 including shipping. Thank you John Andrews!

CZ Custom Shop / Ghost Products - Personal, same hour response and assurance on my inquiry about using an overseas CC for an order to be delivered stateside (usually rejected for fraud). Personal order confirmation, personal and prompt everything. Total order value: less than $70. Thanks Zoe, you guys are the best!
 
HK....really great!. I sent in a P9S that I got at a pawn shop. Travis at HK went over it, replaced springs, polished the ramp, and replaced the bent front sight for parts only. Got it back in a week and during the time it was being worked on, I got a call for every little part needing attention. I have had several things done such as night sight installation and HK has always been prompt, professional, and thorough.
Also really great is Dick Williams Gun Shop in MI. I needed Marlin parts and Doug at Dicke Williams Gun Shop was the guy that stayed with me until he found what I needed. He sent me several parts and did not charge me until I determined if they were the parts I needed.
Another great experience was with CDNN. I ordered two or three HKs and the turn-around was minimal and the prices were great.
Worst has been Marlin over the past four years. I know the transition thing but still...at least call back when you say you are going to. I ordered some magazines for 22 bolt and two of the three would not work. I sent them back and they did send me replacements but it took a looonngg time. I needed a simple cartridge guide and they couldn't or wouldn't help at all.
 
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Ruger - I've seen them dealt with twice. The first was a magazine that was bad. They promptly sent out a new one. The next time was a family members gun that had the barrel peening. Still functioned fine, but had this issue of the peening. They not only offered to fix it for free, but they sent out a shipping label and payed for shipping both ways. This was out of their 1 year warranty so they didn't have to do anything. After they got it back they noticed a while later that one of the pins (not the main take down pin, but another one) was coming loose. Called Ruger, and they not only fixed it for free again, but paid for shipping both ways once again. They also seem to have a fast turn around time. To me this is just above and beyond since many companies won't fix anything free when the warranty is over. Ruger seems to have a lifetime warranty even though they only advertise a 1 year warranty. They go above and beyond.

Savage - I've only dealt with them once. I needed an accu trigger adjustment tool and called them to try to buy one. They asked for my address and sent one out for free even though I tried to buy one.

Now onto the good.

Leupold - I've dealt with them 2 times directly and a 3rd through a gun shop. I have mixed feelings on this. They do have a great warranty, but you clearly pay for it in the price of the scope too. They do do what they claim they will when you read the warranty before buying a scope. Not all companies seem to do what they claim. However, it's not like Ruger where they go above and beyond. It's just that they do exactly what they claim. They don't pay shipping, they don't offer a 1 year warranty, but then fix it for a lifetime, but they do fix their products.
I think I would list them as great except for the fact that they don't pay for shipping and make you pay to ship the scopes to them. IMO they should cover shipping both ways. Other than that their turn around time is good and they do fix the scopes.

Other than that I'm not sure I've dealt with many other gun companies.
 
Great

Missouri Bullet company: Fast shipping, customer appreciation.

Midway: Always have had good experiences.

The OK

Lyman: Got a reloading die that had the wrong expanding plug in it. Although they handled the situation great, shipping is dreadfully slow!

The bad

Uramex usa: I had a few problems with a gun that I discussed with them. Never really got anything resoslved. Needless to say I will never purchase anything made or from this company again.
 
Very Good:

Sturdy - safe delivery arranged a month in advance and made without a hiccup; minor installation issue resolved by business owner who was readily accessible by phone
 
Sig has been good to me. They called me a month after I purchased my rifle just to see how I was liking it and if their was anything I wasn't happy with that they could fix. I said no I had a thousand rounds through it and its great. They offered me a 20% coupon on accessories afterwards.


Customer service does sell. One of the reasons I bought a Springfield 1911 was because I heard their CS was so good. I like knowing a company will work with me if their product fails, thats worth something.
 
GREAT: MidwayUSA- lots of orders, zero problems, and no hassle returns

PRETTY GOOD: Colt, fixed extra stuff when repairing what I wanted, with no extra charge

Dillon, great help, just a touch slow responding to emails
 
KelTec - Great CS
Springfield - Great CS
Kimber - barely acceptable
Taurus - The absolute worst in the gun industry and probably top 10 in the country regardless of industry.
 
Outstanding service- Midway USA, Brownell's, Turner Saddlery. No.....I am not buying a saddle, they make a high quality military slings.

Len
 
SIG - But response to e-mail

They have a odd email system that will not allow some emails to go through with a verification sent by the sender by replying to the message they send. It's easier for me to drive over than send an email anyway.
 
From personal experience, these are all excellent with their CS:
Rock River Arms, BCM, Noveske, Larue, POF, Rainier Arms, PK Firearms, AIM Surplus, MidwayUSA.
 
Leatherman multi-tools has excellent customer service. I like their tools too, even if they break when I use them. I've broken two of their tools in about a year's time, and they've replaced both of them in entirety and without question.
 
Haven't had need for much gun-related CS, so...

Just sent an email to Cheaper Than Dirt an hour or so ago. I can't say much good about their ammo prices, but they have used H&K G3 drum sights for $20 right now, including the mounting screws, oval and lock washers, and windage screws. These are usually, what, $75 parts? ( H&K, :rolleyes:)

Anyway, ordered one for my Saiga project, got the order today, found out I'm missing the windage screw. Shot off an email asking for just the screw or an exchange, and the response (within an hour!) was that they would just send me a while new sight. :D
 
THE EXCELLENT:

-Springfield Armory: Ejector fell out of New TRP. I called them, they took my info, and sent me a shipping label. I sent the TRP to them and had it back in 6 days. They even pinned the ejector in at my request. Zero money out of my pocket.

-Wilson Combat: Called just to ask questions about a CQB I owned. Very friendly and knowledgeable.

-Midway USA: Never had a problem with any of my orders. 90% of the time, my orders are delivered 1-2 days early.

-Cold Steel knives: Of all the major knife companies that I contacted about donating knives to my Unit to be "tested" in Iraq, Cold Steel was the ONLY knife company that actually offered to send us a few of their SRKs for evaluation.

-RCBS: My rock chucker did not come with one of the required linkage pins. I called RCBS and a very nice lady told me that they would send me one at no charge. Had the pin in 3 days.

-Rocky Mountain Reloading: Jake is a super guy to deal with. Very prompt at answering emails. I receive most of my orders in 3 days.

-Precision Bullets: I ordered some of their bullets. Had some issues with them and their COAL. I sent an email to them asking some questions. I received a response that day and had my problem solved within the hour.

THE "GOOD":

-Fusion Firearms: Was having severe stovepipe issues with one of their 1911s. I had to pay shipping ($60) for a $2,000 pistol. Otherwise it was a good experience. Mr.Serva is a great guy.



THE FAIR:

-Sig: I Was sending emails asking questions about grips and other things on my P220 Elite. They handed me off to one of their "people" in Germany who attempted to answer my question as best as possible. After a few more emails, they started ignoring me. I am hesitant to buy a
new Sig, but am very happy with my West German 226 and 220.

-STI: sent emails inquiring about info on their website. Received a semi-smart a$$ed reply. Asked more questions, got no response.

-Lone Wolf Distributors: This one is close to good, with the exception of one incident. I placed an order for some pistol sights for my friend, for his birthday. Later that day , I discovered that my other friend had already ordered the same sights(from LWD) for our birthday buddy. I sent LWD an email explaining them that my other friend had already ordered the sights from them, if they could cancel my order. I received an email the next day from them, scolding me for cancelling my order. They advised me that next time, I needed to be sure of my order before I placed it. It pissed me off that they were not more understanding of the situation.


THE POOR/WORST:

-Kimber: Bought a Eclipse Target II ($1200) that could not get through a magazine without 4-5 malfuntions. Called them, they told me to call them back after I had ran 500 rounds through it. I did, they then told me that I was not holding the gun properly, then told me that I needed to find the ammo that the gun liked. After negotiating with them, they finally told me to send the gun back. I did , on my dime ($55). Got the gun back almost 2 months later and it still had the same problems. I called them back, got more excuses from them, then I sent it back to them for a second time. Got it back about a month later with the same problems.
Sent letter to kimber requesting refund, received letter from kimber denying refund. Letter stated that I should continue sending the pistol to them til it got fixed. Never again will I buy kimber.

-Al Mar Knives- pocket clip on Eagle ultralight broke at the screw arbor. Sent them several emails over the course of two months with no reply. Finally called and talked to "Dave". "Dave" quickly told me that the pocket clip is not covered under the product's Life time warranty. I will not be buying that other Al Mar knife that I was looking at, or any other Al Mar knives. I still have the eagle ultralight (sans clip). It is my "red headed step-child" knife that I volunteer for ever dirty/abusive job that comes down the pike.

-Botac Tactical: Two close friends and myself placed orders with them. All three of our bank accounts got hacked. Thankfully, our banks refunded what we lost.
I also ordered a knife from them. The knife I got was not the knife I ordered. I called to talk to them and got a lady on the other end that could barely speak English. After 20 minutes of trying to get through to the woman that I wanted to speak to her supervisor, I gave up and dealt with it.

That's all I can think of right now.
 
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