ClickClickD'oh said:
If I had only had Sigs and Rugers before.... how would I know and or care the P-07 decocker is different from the rest of the CZ line?
You're right -- I mistated the point I was trying to make and didn't state it clearly. Sorry. It was obvious you already knew that older CZs had one type of decocker and that the newer CZs another. That was what you were complaining about.
The part I got wrong was when I mentioned the SIGs and Rugers. What I should have written was that
if you weren't having a bad day, perhaps you just
had NOT seen other decocker styles that required you to press down on the front of the decocker lever to decock the weapon. The SIGs and Rugers worked in that manner, just like the new Omega-based CZs. (That's what I was thinking when I was keying, but that's not what my fingers put on your screen. My brain and my fingers were obviously not in synch, and I erred.
ClickClickD'oh said:
Of course, the Sig decocker doesn't really have the same action as the Ruger. The Sig is more of a straight down press where as the Ruger is a rotation. I'd say the Beretta decocker is more in line with the Ruger.
Inside these guns, all three decocker mechanisms (CZ P-07, SIG, and Ruger) work in quite different ways, but all three of the decocking processes are activated by LEVERS and they all move in a similar fashion: you push down on the front end of the lever to decock the weapon.; the lever is attached to or is part of a pivoting component. The "levering" action is the same. But, how the decocking process is achieved wasn't our topic -- the levers and how they worked was the topic. You were complaining about CZ doing it differently with the P-07 than they had with the older 75B-based, non-Omega system guns (causing you to press on the front rather than the rear of the mechanism).
The SIG decocker control is a
lever; it's covered by the grip, and while you don't see the lever, it's there. Check a SIG parts diagram if you disagree -- the manual is available online. Or, if you have a SIG, just take off the left grip. The lever is longer and larger than you might expect. If you do take the grip off be careful that you don't knock the
decocking lever spring loose.
To decock the SIG, you push the front end of the lever DOWN. That you don't SEE a lever doesn't mean there's not one there, under the grip.
The Ruger control -- which they call the SAFETY in their parts list (But a decocker lever when they tell you how to decock the weapon in the user manual) is also a
lever. The Ruger lever is shorter than the SIG or CZ levers and the metal on which it pivots is much thicker, but it's still a lever. It uses
leverage to make the rotation easier. Yes -- it does rotate, but so do the levers used in the P-07 and SIGs.. The Ruger lever is on the slide, not the frame, but it's easier to decock the Ruger using the strong hand than is case with the slide-mounted decocker on the older S&Ws semi-autos I mentioned.
To decock the Ruger you push the front end of the lever DOWN. It's a shorter piece, but it's still a lever.
To decock the P-07 or P-09,
you push the front end of the lever DOWN.
Maybe you WERE having a bad day... I had one, too, and replied incorrectly -- but I've acknowledged my error and tried to correct it.
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