Dealer question

[Gordon_Freeman]

I am about to pick up my second Mosin this month. I would like to order a third soon. I think they will go up in value over time. I also want to hand them down to my kids in about 20 years.
Will my dealer get suspicious that I am having three of the same type of gun transferred to their shop in one month?

 

[cambeul41]

Certainly. All dealers are alike. Why not mention your intent?

 

[AlexanderA]

Why should the dealer get suspicious? It's not as though Mosins are being used by gangs or to knock over 7-11's, etc.

But I disagree that these will turn out to be a good investment. There's a lot of interest in them right now because they're cheap and plentiful, but -- let's face it -- they were second-rate weapons even back in the day. They're totally militarily obsolete now, they're not particularly suitable for conversion to sporters, and their collector appeal (as compared to U.S. weapons or even Mausers) is limited.

 

[crm7290]

A lot of people buy the mosins because they are so cheap. I know a guy who bought four the other day and there were no questions asked.

 

[NavyLCDR]

Will my dealer get suspicious that I am having three of the same type of gun transferred in one month?

Respectfully, who cares? The dealer is either going to sell the gun to you or not.... to me that 's all that really matters, I don't particularly care HOW the dealer FEELS about selling guns to me, so long as it doesn't affect the actual sale.

 

[Telekinesis]

You could just pay $30 and get a C&R FFL and completely bypass the transfer.

But even if you don't want to do that, I don't think a FFL would get too suspicious. Maybe if you were buying ARs or AKs or other types of modern combat guns, but not a mosin. Plus, what could you possibly do? Run a drive by bayonetting?

I think the fact that you could buy 4 or 5 Mosins for the price of a quality handgun gives you a bit of leeway on the quantity side of things.

 

[Bubbles]

Three Mosins in 3 weeks don't send up any red flags.

Thirty AK-47's at once will get you .

 

[Red Tornado]

If you're going to buy more than one, ever, take a month and get your C&R. You'll come out ahead almost immediately. Many C&R holders order 5 or more Mosins at once, cherry pick the best and sell the rest. Just remember it's not a dealer license but that application is legal.
RT

 

[Gordon_Freeman]

Thanks for the advice. Is it difficult to get a C&R license?

 

[kingpin008]

Nope. Fill out the paperwork, send it in w/ a check for $30 and wait to receive the license and info in the mail. Then send off signed copies of your license to the various retailers that sell to C&R holders and watch your bank account plummet.

 

[Shadow 7D]

hehe
no, he will probably mention the next great thing and tell you he could have it by next friday...

realize that there were/are guys who ordered CRATES (and I kick me self for not ponying up the cash to do)
thats 20 rifle a box, and they would order 3, 5, at a time, so they could get the straight from the importers, un-touched by some gun store clown who is going to put the wrong bolt in the wrong gun, not check Bayonets SN etc.

And that's on a C&R... can you afford the S&H + transfer on 100 rifles at one time?

 

[KCFirepower]

umm...I doubt the Mosins will go up significantly, but they are great fun to have around. I bought like 6 many moons ago and still have three M44s left over to tinker with.
If he thinks your business is suspicious you can always take it elsewhere.

Sidenote: When I got the six through C&R they were only like $30 apiece....maybe 4-5 years ago.

 

[kingpin008]

umm...I doubt the Mosins will go up significantly, but they are great fun to have around.

That's what people have said about lots of surplus guns, but the fact is that the supply will dry up, and prices will rise accordingly. For example, I bought an SKS in 2007 for $250 at a gun show and got a great deal. Sold it in 2009 for $400. Now I wish I had never let go of it.

Same with the surplus pistols. Everything is getting harder to find, and becoming more expensive. The exception seems to be Nagant revolvers, but they'll start getting scarce soon enough.

 

[Apocalypse-Now]

yes, he'll probably put you on the valued customer watch list.

 

[medalguy]

^^^ yep!!

 

[blindhari]

I have seen a CMP 1903 A3 Springfield last year that I could find no wear on with all original accesories and leather. It has an $18 dollar reciept in the climate controlled gun safe the guy keeps it in. These were sold as obsolete and cheap weapons, "back in the Day"

blindhari

 

[Ignition Override]

For doubling the price after about four years, this happened with many Spanish FR8 Mauser (.308/7.62 N) carbines, but only because not so many were imported years ago, and no more.

As for several guns at once, a guy who works at a Memphis gun store was at the huge Tulsa Wannamacher's show, and he chatted with an ATF agent.

This staffer told me that the ATF guy did not even care if somebody bought a rifle, took it to their car and drove it back across the state line.
That ATF guy was only concerned about people who steal AR parts, for assembly "elsewhere".

 

[dogtown tom]

Ignition Override ....This staffer told me that the ATF guy did not even care if somebody bought a rifle, took it to their car and drove it back across the state line...

ATF would not care because it is completely legal to purchase a rifle or shotgun from a licensed dealer in another state.

 

[Gordon_Freeman]

I just don't want that shop to think I am doing straw purchases. I would never do that. I just want to pass these Mosins down to my kids so they can start their own collection around 20 years from now when they move out on their own.
I'm sure Mosins will be a lot more valuable in 20 years.

 

[deadin]

I would expect that the value of Mosins will drop when the current supply of cheap surplus ammo runs out. Then they will probably slowly start to appreciate again, but it will be a long time before they get anywhere near what could be called a decent investment... There's just too many of them around.

 

[ridgerunner1965]

mosins

buy plenty of ammo for your mosins. ill bet 20 yrs from now it will of increased in value percentage wise far more than the guns themselves.not that the guns wont increase as well.i remember when you could buy sks rifles for 69 buks by the truck load.now yu rarely see them for less than 200$ and 250$ seems to be the norm.