Does it bother you when you hear about people who can carry but don't?

Does this bug you?

  • yes, it's an insult to people who can't carry

    Votes: 26 12.6%
  • no, I don't care

    Votes: 147 71.0%
  • yes, but i don't know why

    Votes: 14 6.8%
  • none of the above (please explain

    Votes: 20 9.7%

  • Total voters
    207
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I have a cwp, but can't carry most days because I'm a student and campus is off limits. When I'm not going to school I'm working, and work is also off limits.

I carry most of the time when I'm not at school or work, but not always.
 
I voted none of the above because I know some folks do not want to go on state and local record as a ccw; and an excellent reason it is!
 
"Yes. It's like people who don't vote "

I like this response. This is one of our most important rights ... and obligations ... as free citizens. The power of this was recently illustrated, in a somewhat 'unpleasantly surprising' fashion, to many liberals around many of the individual states, and in the nation as a whole. Every vote can count. (Hopefully only once, but you get what I mean ;) )

If you choose not to use yours wisely, each and every time a vote occurs, and to best effect according to your personal beliefs, you have very little justification to complain about the state of affairs.

If you don't like things the way they are, focus on helping advocate a change in the laws via the voting process, on local and state levels. Find the folks who are like-minded, and get out the vote. That's what liberals have often effectively done, you know. Politicians often seem to promote laws seemingly popular with the majority of their constituents.

If you live somewhere where the majority of the population disagrees with your feeling of how some of the laws ought to be written ... and you believe you'll always be in the minority ... and you have a passionate belief, or beliefs, that's contrary to what the majority of other voters are always going to believe, and therefore allow to be made into law ... then you have the right to move to another area where your beliefs and values are more popular with the majority of citizens.

I will say that when I was young, and saw that there was absolutely no chance of me getting a CCW in CA, and saw the hoops my father had to jump through to get his, and then get it renewed each time ... as well as the way he was treated by some folks in the issuing agency ... I was also a bit 'resentful' and 'frustrated'. Then, after I later became a cop, and carried a weapon off duty everywhere, because I could ... no matter how uncomfortable it may have been in many circumstances, or really necessary, for that matter ... I got it out of my system. I don't always carry a weapon off duty. Sometimes, sure ... some days, weeks and months I may even go armed off duty most of the time. Sometimes hardly at all at other times. It depends. My choice.

But you know what bothers me? The folks who have the lawful ability to carry a concealed handgun, either CCW or off duty cops, who don't think it's ever necessary to practice with their weapon(s), or perhaps receive some additional training ... only visit a range to shoot their weapon(s) when absolutely required for qualification purposes, and are satisfied with achieving the minimal qualifying score ... don't use a proper & safe method of carrying their weapon(s) ... don't bother to periodically clean or properly maintain their weapon(s) ... don't bother to learn how some types of ammunition may be different than some other ammunition, and consider how that may affect their specific personal perceived defensive needs ... feel it's perfectly fine to buy some bag of unknown reloaded ammunition from some guy at a gunshow table, or from a friend of a friend of a friend, who just learned to reload,and use that in their carry weapon(s) because it costs too much to buy 'new' ammunition ... say they only really carry their weapons so they can 'scare' bad guys off if they're ever attacked ... don't bother to gain a thorough understanding of the laws governing the use of deadly force (more CCW folks than cops), as well as regarding the safe storage of firearms in households which may contain minors ... and so on, and so on ...

Kind of like the folks who think they've learned everything they'll ever need to know about safe and responsible driving and vehicle ownership just because they passed some simple tests down at their DMV. :neener:

Everyone's entitled to an opinion ...
 
Doesn't bother me in the slightest (of course, most of the people I associate with do have CPLs and routinely carry). What does bother me are gun-owners who do nothing to advance the cause of RKBA and continue to vote in some of the asses to our Congress and state assemblies and leglislatures ...

My feelings exactly.
 
Nope, doesn't bother me if they don't wear seatbelts either. To each his own. I waited long and hard for CCW in MO. We have it now and I use it whenever I can.

I should say it bothers me when people don't buckle their children in a car. They have the knowledge to be stupid; kids depend on their parents to keep them safe.
 
They don't have too. I feel that it shows a certain level of foolishness, but I am not my brother's keeper, Unless he fails the NICS in my shop!
 
Not only NO, but heck NO (Hi Art!)

I voted none of the above because I know some folks do not want to go on state and local record as a ccw; and an excellent reason it is!

Oddly enough, I know people that got their CHL just so they WOULD show up on state and local records as CHL. This was even discussed at an activist gathering I attended as a good way to advertise how you'll vote.

Nothing like being on the CHL roles to tell the politicians where you stand. I don't care how many of the 237,000 Texas CHL holders actually carry. Any anti-CHL gubernatorial candidate sees the number - I would like to see it grow to the point where any anti-chl politician can go to the Texas DPS web site and see defeat staring him in the face.


Yes. It's like people who don't vote IMO.
Riley, I'll assume you're not lucky enough to know people that go through the hassle of getting a CHL for no reason other than to help secure our rights. I know several and appreciate them. In the specific case of those non-carrying CHL's, it's the exact opposite of not voting. Their vote is loud, early and often. Every politician in the state knows exactly where they stand.

The benefit they bring by increasing the CHL numbers is incontrovertible. Whether or not they actually carry is their personal business.

IMHO
 
I live in Southern California, more specifically in the Orange County area, and I honestly feel pretty safe walking around not packing any heat.

Its up to the person whether or not he chooses to carry his weapon. If he feels safe and doesn't feel like luggin' around a handgun, that's his choice too.

So nope, it doesn't bother me.
 
I don't mind when people can carry, but don't. I just mind it when law abiding citizens who can't and don't. But then again, it is a lot easier to advocate civil disobedience than it is to actually do it.
 
I could care less to wether one wishes to carry concealed if they could, its they're choice, but what does bother the h.ll out of me is when people will buy and keep a loaded gun in the house for protection but DONT ever shoot. this is so ignorant its "beyond beleif"
 
My opinion is this:

I wish they would, because a right not used is a right soon lost, and we could use all the support we could muster.

On the other hand: If said person has not come to grips with the possibility of having to use a gun, then maybe they shouldn't carry. Carrying is a very heavy responsibility requiring a certain minset.

I've got a couple of friends that are diehard 2A supporters who will not carry because they know that it would require them to make changes that they are not willing to make. Does this make them cowards or fools? Absolutley not!! It simply means that they are smart enough to know that carrying is a responsibility thay can't handle at this time.

The decision to carry or not is an extremely weighty one, and should not be made lightly.
 
Put me down for "Don't Care"

I have an unrestricted carry permit here in Upstate NY. Right after 9/11 I carried frequently but now carry very rarely.

Here in Rochester there is some great fishing in the lower Genesee River, which runs through a bad part of town. I carry more ammo while fishing (or passing through) there than when I'm deer hunting. Its amazing how neither the fishermen nor their vehicles get much attention from the bad guys. We all pack and everybody knows it.

I carry when I know that I'll be out late, especially with my family - just in case of a breakdown.

My favorite time to carry is right after some anti-gun crazy delivers a rant that raises my blood pressure. It does my heart good to lock and load my nine and go for a walk in the mall just to [figuratively] spit in their face.

Most of the time I see no need to carry a weapon and don't.
 
Without reading the thread, I bet 'No, I don't care' will be the winner here.

It's a personal choice. I have a CCW, but I am not yet in the habit of carrying 16/7 or more.

Stupid? Perhaps.
My Choice? Yes.
Should you be upset over that? No.
 
I absolutely believe that people should not CCW if they are not fully committed to getting training and understanding the tremendous responsibility that comes with CCW.

Just because “someone can” does not mean they should.

That’s my thought.

Rob
 
Its none of my business. What DOES bother me slightly are people who can get a CCW, agree with CCW law, but don't get one for themselves, b/c they don't see the need. At least spend the money to support the cause, you know?
 
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Only when it's my brother from Springfield MO...but he ribs me sumthinfierce. kinda like :neener: :neener: :neener: I can you can't...but he is not the gun nut in the family...I am...and I am stuck in the PR of IL....I agree it's a right, but just because you can in your state doesn't mean you have to. Not sure I'd feel comfy if some one who really didn't want to carry was....mack....
 
I can carry and do - 16/7 but it sure bothers me that so many who should and wish to - are denied their right. There are many folks, responsible, diligent and worthy - who are prevented from being legally able to carry their rightful means of self and family defence.

I would never advocate carry - for carry's sake - but I still encourage it when possible. The options should be equal - across the board.
 
I voted no I don’t care. If someone has a permit and doesn’t want to carry, that’s their business. I may think their silly and foolish, but that’s their choice. That said; I push most of my responsible friends and my brother to apply for their permit.

Most of them are interested, they just never actually go to the court house and apply. Finally had one friend I’ve been pestering for a year apply, and my brother is taking a safety course next week over spring break so he can apply.
 
It's a little annoying, but nothing I'd every even bring up for discussion with the person in question. It's their call, and to take on the roll of uninvitedly telling somene what they should do isn't in my nature.
 
Nope.

I don't care what someone else does so long as it does not adversely affect me. If a person does carry, gets a CCW and doesn't carry or has no interest in ever carrying, it remains their personal choice.

What I hate is when someone has no interest in carrying and actively fights to prevent anyone from carrying and even worse is someone in a "may issue" state that does manage to get a license and then fights to prevent "shall issue" laws that would help everyone else.
 
What I hate is when someone has no interest in carrying and actively fights to prevent anyone from carrying and even worse is someone in a "may issue" state that does manage to get a license and then fights to prevent "shall issue" laws that would help everyone else.

Just for the record, that's a perfect description of why I started this thread; someone with a permit who doesn't think other people should have them.
 
No, It doesn't bother me. I have two friends that spent the $ to get it just to have it. They both expressed the idea that if more law abiding folks had them without getting into trouble it would make gun owners in general look better. Of course they could carry and not get into trouble, but they did it to help make a statement.
 
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