Double Taps still phony?

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Jerry are you sending me all those for the video?

I have another member on the 10mm forum that will be sending two DT loadings. I will get a picture of his boxes and I almost know they are recent, not black box.


So we will have different lots! Different times.... Could be fun! ;)
 
Here we go again. Deflection.

So sorry that the reality of different guns producing different velocities is lost on you.
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Please explain why ONLY Double Taps are producing low numbers compared to others in a side-by-side test?

I ask you three because you three seem to either deflect the issue with other off topic subjects or come up with excuses why numbers may conclude low but exclude the competition.
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Thanks! Both of them are setup about perfect. I'm ready to rock them tomorrow with the new ammo!

If I get enough ammo I may try the Hunter 6" with DoubleTap.
 
YES, all those are for your video. 5 rounds of each loading selected from different boxes for consistancy/variance testing. will get them in the mail to you this weekend.

i would prefer you shoot them all through a stock bbl G20 with a 20# recoil spring as DT states they do. that way the velocity is from an apples to apples gun.
 
Don't have a stock G20 :eek: My Match gives within 30-40 FPS of what David gets with his G20 in the videos. It should read a little higher so that gives DT the benefit of the doubt. If you would rather send them to David I will let him know. Let me know ASAP.
 
Is david the guy testing with the chrony in the desert?

Ive seen his work but i've never conversed with him.

To be as fair as possible i'd rather he test the ammo i have as he uses the same platform dt says they use and he is at a similar elevation and humidity which dt says effects their ammo, since the are in the high desert also.

Can you put me in contact with david? If not i will send the ammo i have to you because your elevation and humidity is about like mine.

Thanks.
 
I sent him the info on this. He will PM you and I have the other member on the 10mm forum giving me DT in an exchange. We will have it 2X covered!
 
Im on that forum as well under this same name, not often, very slow there.

Ive seen you work, it is good, but in all fairness the same platform should be used to negate any excuses.

If i dont hear from david i will send this ammo to you since youre testing "white box" dt as well.
 
Jerry,
I'm David the one with all the Glock 20 video's on youtube.

Jesse notified me on my 10mm ammo facebook page that you were interested in have some ammo tested.
 
That is correct.

I have some "black box" double tap along with a few other rounds. I listed them a page back for details.

Pm me your mailing address and i will get them sent to you this weekend.

Also, once tested could you link your video to this site and thread?

Thanks.
 
Hhmmm....Well, I thought it was the common, accepted, conventional wisdom now that DT's advertised velocities are more than significantly less than what is advertised. Personally, I have my doubts that the Glocks which DT uses to chrono their loads spits their bullets out at anywhere close to the advertised velocities.

Hey, but what the heck...Mike's a great guy (least that's what all his apologists say).:D--Patrice
 
Hhmmm....Well, I thought it was the common, accepted, conventional wisdom now that DT's advertised velocities are more than significantly less than what is advertised. Personally, I have my doubts that the Glocks which DT uses to chrono their loads spits their bullets out at anywhere close to the advertised velocities.

Hey, but what the heck...Mike's a great guy (least that's what all his apologists say).--Patrice
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That's hillarious, his apologists.

You know you're pissing off the 3 silly nonsense talking amigos right?
 
Lined up and ready!

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Out of my Witness Match 4.75" barrel:

RightToBear 180gr (1300 FPS Rating): 1273, 1292, 1292, 1370, 1295. 1304.4 FPS/ 679.90 LBS
Underwood 135gr (1600 FPS Rating): 1688, 1671, 1656, 1681, 1683. 1675.8 FPS/ 841.65 LBS
Underwood 165gr (1400 FPS Rating): 1431, 1458, 1539, 1509, 1561. 1499.6 FPS/ 823.73 LBS
Underwood 200gr (1250 FPS Rating): 1210, 1239, 1198, 1225, 1228. 1220 FPS/ 660.85 LBS

It excites me to see more real 10mm hitting the market! Dallas Reloads is next.


YouTube video is coming. Turned out great and in HD! Taking forever because of it :(
 
Intercooler, please explain why with those number ...

Underwood 135gr (1600 FPS Rating): 1688, 1671, 1656, 1681, 1683. 1675.8 FPS/ 841.65 LBS

... why isn't the package labelled at 1900fps.

Sorry, I answered my own question. It ain't Double Taps.

Just kidding here guys.
 
Kevin has his stuff under-rated really. It's more in-line with the Glock 4.6" barrel which gives about 30 FPS less than what I get with mine if sprung right (lock-up).

I would rather under-rate and over-perform! Heck even the new kid on the block RightToBear got theirs pretty spot-on!

Videos is 40% now :(
 
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Underwood 165gr (1400 FPS Rating): 1431, 1458, 1539, 1509, 1561. 1499.6 FPS/ 823.73 LBS
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Great test, man! The one disconcerting thing that jumps out is the somewhat high spread on that Underwood 165gr test. 1431 to 1561 is 130 fps in spread. Any signs you were getting a premature unlocking? Any sense (before looking at the readings) that some in that string were "hotter" than others?

Thanks again for doing that.
 
Don't think so but maybe you can tell something from the video when it finishes. My Match has the flat bottom firing pin stop from Henning and a 22lb Wolff extra-power recoil spring so it's set up to rock! The 135's were awful steady and it's got more pop.
 
Thanks. Good info re: the gun's setup, too. I've got a beefy spring in my 10mm Match, but haven't fooled with the firing pin stop - do you feel like that changes anything? Recoil impulse feel any different?
 
It does. Less felt recoil and doesn't sling the brass as far. Put all the info on the EAA firearms Facebook page.
 
'intercooler', thanks for that video. Enjoyed the way the structure holding the chrono display vibrated with each shot.

I like Underwood's ammo. Happy to see it meets advertised specs. I have over 500 rounds of Underwood 180gr, a mix of GD and XTP.

All my Double Tap ammo came in black boxes, bought between 2005 and 2007. Here's a photo of about half of it. The rest is at my other place.

All the DT ammo is 180gr except, a for box of 215gr WFNGC hardcast bought in the summer of 2006. DT stopped making the 215gr hardcast. Those and the DT 200gr WFNGC hardcast shoot fine from my Glock 29 and my 1911.

I'd like to send some for your next test. I'll PM you for an address.
 

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