WHEN Buffalo Bore/Double Tap close, 10mm dead?

[wild cat mccane]

Hello,

I am currently doing a lot of leg work into reviewing if I need a glock 20. What I am finding is Buffalo Bore and Double Tap are the bee's knees for "real" 10mm loads and about most others are *nearly* in the 40S&W range.

Given both companies are owner operated, is 10mm dead once they inevitably close (think swamp fox ammo)?

 

[Wishoot]

No.

There are others that manufacturer 10mm including Underwood, who makes ammo that's just as good as anything BB or DT make IMO.

Reloading should be given serious consideration given the cost of 10 mm.

 

[entropy]

It will be reloaded long after they are both gone. Usually when bullet selection dries up and dies go to the G and beyond series, that deposits them in the dustbin of history. There are plenty of bullets for it, and the dies are the same as .40 Slow & Wobbly, so I don't see it going away.

 

[200Apples]

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It's just a gut feeling, but methinks companies such as Buffalo Bore (and others with similar reputations, like Garrett Cartridges) aren't going anywhere other than to enjoy continued success because they offer such great products.

 

[CZ9shooter]

I dont see BuffaloBore closing up, but reloaders will keep it alive for a very long time if those companies do go away. Some commonality with 40sw helps that out too.

 

[PabloJ]

There are also: Winchester 175gr slivertip, Hornady JHPs, HPR 180gr JHP plus new JHP load in SIG line of ammo. While it's a niche cartridge with expensive to shoot price tag it got more popular w/in last year of so.

 

[tarosean]

Buy a cheap reloading press and continue to load to your hearts content

 

[lpsharp88]

No chance. 10mm is growing in popularity, and as others have said, it shares components with .40 short & weak, which isn't going anywhere either. Also, get a press and reload for it. It is a reloaders dream really. It can be loaded from mild to wild and everything in between.

 

[d'zaster]

If you're concerned about availability of 10mm factory ammo, start reloading. Easy, fun and rewarding.

Plus....10mm is probably not your only gun. Spread out your reloading equipment cost by loading other calibers in your arsenal.

I'm stating the obvious but of course, that's obvious. OK...back to work.

 

[Mainsail]

Underwood is loading to 10mm specs and is cheaper than either of those. I seldom buy from DT or BB because while the ammo may be good, I consider it overpriced (and in the case of BB, over-boxed).

 

[wild cat mccane]

Okay, Underwood, BB, Double Tap. All three are boutique companies that will close when the owner passes-like Swamp Fox as stated.

There is no COMMERCIAL 10MM round that goes hot, right? Either FMJ or new technology hollow point (gold dot/hst-Horandy rounds have been shown to no expand in 10mm offerings).
I don't care to reload. Frankly, most don't either.

I really want to get the G20, but not if its value and use are destined to die?

 

[CZ9shooter]

So use it for as long as you see fit...

Then sell it to a reloader. I'm sure your will have gotten you money's worth by that time.

 

[Teachu2]

Okay, Underwood, BB, Double Tap. All three are boutique companies that will close when the owner passes-like Swamp Fox as stated.

There is no COMMERCIAL 10MM round that goes hot, right? Either FMJ or new technology hollow point (gold dot/hst-Horandy rounds have been shown to no expand in 10mm offerings).
I don't care to reload. Frankly, most don't either.

I really want to get the G20, but not if its value and use are destined to die?

In the event that it does, go ahead and get an aftermarket .40stumbel&wobble conversion barrel.
http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=951

 

[Olympus]

It's pretty expensive to own a 10mm and only shoot commercial ammo. Get into reloading and a whole world of possibilities opens up to you.

 

[X-Rap]

Sounds like you should look for a more popular economical round to shoot.

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[CDW4ME]

Factory 10mm suitable for SD (IMO), average for 5 shots:
Glock 20 SF
Corbon 150 JHP @ 1,276 fps / 542# KE / PF 191
Hornady 155 XTP @ 1,335 fps / 614# KE / PF 207

 

[dragon813gt]

I bought a total of one box of factory ammo, which was really overpriced, when I bought a G20SF. And it was solely to have some brass until Starline produced a run. It hasn't seen a factory, or jacketed, round since. There are lots of obscure cartridges that are still around because of reloaders. 10mm is not an obscure cartridge and isn't going anywhere if two boutique ammo makers closed their doors.

 

[Wishoot]

I was in Cabelas 2 days ago. They had an ample selection of commercially loaded 10mm along with an ample selection of other "Dead" calibers like 9x18, 32S&W, 32mag and a bunch of others.

 

[ritepath]

I sold my G20 because I didn't reload at the time....buying factory 10mm is for the birds. So I sold it...

I now have 10mm/40 dies, loads of 10mm brass...and a big desire for a 10mm again.

 

[IlikeSA]

The 10mm isn't going anywhere anytime soon. SIG just came out with a 10mm steel pistol and it got good reviews in American Rifleman. While the ammo is expensive, isn't factory ammo in general? You can always get a different barrel for the Glock 20 and shoot 40 S&W or 9mm, I believe.

 

[ny32182]

Things it has going for it:

-Brass is the only unique component... bullets and even dies are shared with a mainstream cartridge.
-It is the most powerful and versatile cartridge you can fit in a standard autoloader handgun.

Therefore it will always have a strong niche following. It was around long before BB and DT and will be around long after.

That said, if you are not going to reload and plan to shoot it in any volume, it is not the cartridge for you. The factory availability and cost is what it is. For your purposes you need a .40 or .45.

 

[ECVMatt]

About 10 or so years ago I bought my Glock 20. All my friends thought I was crazy because it was a dying cartridge. I reload, so I wasn't that concerned and bought it anyways. It is one of my favorite woods bumming and pig hunting over dogs gun. It has plenty of power for most things, is relatively lightweight, weather resistant, and holds 15 rounds.

The 20 also seems to have a decent following in AK. When I was up there on a moose hunt, 10mm was everywhere. They even had it in the remote village of Aniak. Most of the 20 owners I spoke with up there liked it for the same reasons I listed above.

And this seems a little dramatic:
"I really want to get the G20, but not if its value and use are destined to die?"

Recently Sig has come out with a 10mm and there are also several 1911 models as well. I really don't think that 10mm ammo is going to disappear anytime soon and with the proven sales of full power ammo even if BB, Underwood, or Double Tap go away I think some else will step up.

I should also add that the Winchester silver tip is a real sleeper. I shot a couple of pigs with it and it just hammered them. It is the load I carry the most here in CA.

 

[harrygunner]

I believe it's market, then suppliers. If the market exists, suppliers will appear. Perhaps, a better question is, will the market for real 10mm ammo die?

Beyond those three "boutique" manufacturers, I'm impressed with the supply of 10mm ammo in every local gun store I've visited.

 

[wild cat mccane]

Please don't misread. I said the three boutique loaders are the only ones with full power 10mm. I know there are 10mm commercial rounds at stores (Priv Priz, Armscor, etc), but all of those appear to be in the world of 40 with regards to feet per second.

 

[bainter1212]

Wait a minute - why are they "destined to close"? Ever heard of a business being passed down generations, or sold to somebody else?
The business I run, I bought from my former boss when he retired. God willing, the business will be sold to somebody else when I am done with it.