Encounter with LEO's while carrying concealed..

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OK, I was pulled over by a Caliban CHP in San Clemente over some minor stuff, no license plates. I told the officer, it was a brand new truck with only a temp. dealer plates.

He asked the usual, driver license, etc. I handed him the paperwork plus my CCW. Here is where it gets sorta interesting, I ended up off the truck and he asked if I have my guns with me, I told him yes, IWB right side.

He pulled it out of the holster then asked if I have any more guns, I said yea, he told me to pull it out myself b/c it was in an odd spot. :D OK, he then placed the guns on the front seat of his cruiser. Next thing, he asked me again if I have any other guns?

He never mentioned the word weapons at any point, he kept saying if I have any other guns besides the two. Of course, I said, guns? no those are the only 2 I'm allowed to carry.

My question is a knife considered a Gun? :D I'm not implying anything but hey people carry pocket knives for various valid reasons.

He called in my DL and CCW, checked out fine. He then handed my guns back and was told to aboutface to reholster.

At this point, he was friendlier and was in a talking mood. He even said, "I hope you understand why I pulled you over", "The fact that you are driving with no plates", "You're a young guy driving a new Hummer".

Overall, it went pretty smoothly, save for some minor inconvenience.

Please share your most recent encounter with an LEO while packing heat.
 
I may be way off here, but if a LEO asked me to give him my drivers license, insurance paperwork, and registration, that is what I would give him. Is it required in some states to give your concealed carry permit? My friend and shooting partner is a county sheriff near here and he has told me he agrees with just giving what you are asked for......tom
 
Some states it is required and in some it's not. Here in Nevada it's not but I'd rather tell him, myself.
 
Tomkatz,

It is required in some states that the ccw holder notify the officer immediately. Not in Washington, though.

In Washington, probably 3/4s of the counties do not have the ccw database linked in with the driver's license database, so if you don't inform the LEO that you own a CPL if you are pulled over in those counties, no one will be the wiser and it won't be a big deal.

In the other 1/4 of Washington counties, the ccw database and the DL database are linked, so when the LEO goes to run your license he is going to know that you have a CPL and may be carrying. At that point, it is entirely possible that he'll be ticked you didn't tell him -- and in any case, his next question for you is going to be whether you are carrying and why you didn't tell him. Basically you'll raise his blood pressure and eyebrows.

I don't have the list of counties memorized and don't get pulled over but once in a blue moon anyway. If someone pulls me over, I'll tell 'em about the CPL. Seems less stressful in the long run.

In any case, if you opt not to tell and the officer runs your license and then tells you that you need to get out of your car, it is a really good idea to inform him at that time. You absolutely don't want him to find a gun on the pat down, no matter how upstanding a citizen you are.

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In many places, you are required to volunteer that you have a CCW if contacted by an LEO.

In CA - remarkably, you are not required to do this.

in CA, if you can get a CCW, you can take it many places you cannot in many shall issue states. Also - almost nobody will ever think of even looking to see if you are armed unless you are being cuffed or being stupid.

Since its so rare, they just have not worried about controlling what you do with it.

Also - CA has better knife laws than most states - Jim March has a page on it - I would link, but I am lazy and sleepy...
 
My resident permit requires I inform LEO, My DL is flagged also. AR

I guess it's been a couple of weeks ago...Returning from down on the farm I had a dog run out in front of me, I had no choice but to hit it. Oncoming 18-wheeler on a two lane rd, BIG ditch and not much if any shoulder. Sheriff not far behind me. I had pulled across to a gravel lot to look for dog, its dark, one headlight is out.

I saw what happened , you Ok?
Yep
Hey, I know you, you taught in my daughter's CCW class, you've shot skeet with my brother :cool:
Yep, can't find the dog, daughter and brother OK?
I guess your packin', legal and all
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I'll put a call in to Animal control,lets get you a headlight and some coffee

Small towns are great, I'm shooting the breeze, having coffee and pie and the auto parts guy installs the headlight and meets us and joins us at the diner. Sheriff did inform me the State boys had a unmarked cruiser up the way checking for speeders..." I think you know John too huh"...Yep.

I never showed anything, he just had to ask tho'. Waved at John doing 5 over the limit. Felt bad about the dog tho'.
 
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Must notify here. I do that by handing over the permit with the DL and proof of insurance. I try to have them ready before I come to a stop.

I've been stopped a couple of times. Never been asked to disarm, show them the gun, if I had it on me, what kind it is, or where it was being kept. They hand back the permit immediately telling me thanks for showing them that but they don't need it.
 
here in TX, you must notify if you're actually carrying. I got pulled over last week and wasn't carrying and still gave the officer my CHL along with my license. seems like a courtesy as much as anything.
 
That's awfully scary that the po-po disarms you, with a IWB?!? And this is after he sees your papers? Was this a young man (less experienced)?
 
A Hummer and you only are carrying 2 guns !??!! Man your prioritys are all screwed up! You need to spend that cash on guns, not Hummers!!

BTW, Glad everything turn out alright. Just think, he could have pulled over the scumbag that might have just stolen your new pride and joy.
 
I don't think we're required to in Florida either, but I always do anyway. I have had lots of cops react differently. One of which took my guns, left them loaded, and when he drove away left them on the bedrail of my truck for me to retrieve in a Walmart parking lot. That got some strange looks.
 
from talking with a local leos in my county they tell me that I dont have to tell them but they do hate to find out after they run your DL. Just seams smart to tell up front. lets say you reach for your wallet or purse and they get a flash of the gun. what do you think the leo will do...best guess is you will have a very bad experance. Heck most dont know you from adam.
 
The Sheriff's Dept instructed me to let the officer know that I have a CCW. I might as well, put them a little at ease since they know I volunteered for a background check at least s/he'll know I'm one of the good guys.

Pendragon is right about CA and CCW culture and laws. ;)
 
Yep. Cops don't like surprises. Know what I'm sayin'?
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I had a friend who was a cop tell me what he would do if he had someone pulled over and their license came up flagged for CCW but they hadn't mentioned anything. He said he would draw down on the car, have the occupant exit the vehicle, lay on the ground, etc. etc. and make sure there was no gun. I always thought he was a level headed guy, but I guess even with a CCW cops don't like surprise guns and that's understandable. It still made me think that I had made a mistake getting a permit. Before the permit I could carry (of course, I never did) without anyone ever knowing or having to worry about being in some government database as an armed citizen and thus a potential problem.
 
Thanks for all the info on this, I can see where it wouldn't hurt a thing(and might help) to give them your permit. I will discuss it further with my LEO buddy next time we shoot........tom
 
I am at a loss here. Why would an LEO fear an armed citizen? I have no duty to inform the officer at a traffic stop if I am armed.

Does the LEO really believe that a CCW holder is going to come out blazing after he already voluntarily pulled over for a minor traffic violation? Sounds paranoid to me.

If the LEO can not trust a Utah CCW holder which is complying with his instructions, then he needs to find a different line of work. More of the "us against them" attiitude.
 
In Oklahoma, you have to notify the LEO only if you are carrying at that time. If I don't happen to be armed, I'll just give them the d/l and registration.

I think I agree with the "it's just a good idea" theory here, though. I haven't been in the situation (hopefully I won't!), but I think if I were legally carrying in a state that didn't require notification, I would let the LEO know anyhow. That way, no surprises!
 
If the LEO can not trust a Utah CCW holder which is complying with his instructions, then he needs to find a different line of work. More of the "us against them" attiitude.
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In Utah, you are suppose to notify the officer that you have a CCW (see here). That's why he said he would do that if they didn't tell him and then when running the license it came up "postive for weapons". :) It seemed like extreme measures to me too. I wish our CCW wasn't linked to our license. Concealed should mean concealed!
 
7.62FullMetalJacket,

From the Utah DPS FAQ site:

If I get stopped by a police officer, do I, as a permit holder, have to tell the officer I have a gun in my possession?

Absolutely! The requirement to identify yourself to a police officer as a permit holder in possession of a handgun is covered in Public Safety Rule R724-4-13.

If an officer finds or sees a gun on your person during their contact with you, and you have not identified yourself as a permit holder in legal possession of a firearm, the officer must assume you are carrying the gun illegally and will take defensive action. For the safety of all involved, it is better to immediately identify yourself to the officer as a permit holder in possession of a handgun. This action gives the officer some assurance they are most likely dealing with a law abiding citizen.

From the Utah Administrative Code:

R722-300-13 Requirement To Notify Peace Officer When Stopped

When a concealed firearm permit holder or certificate of qualification holder is stopped for questioning by a peace officer based on reasonable suspicion in accordance with Section 77-7-15 and the holder has a concealed firearm in his/her possession, the holder shall immediately advise the peace officer that he/she is a lawful holder and has a concealed firearm in his/her possession


Edited to add: Looks like "TheOtherOne" posted while I was cruising the code sites.
 
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