England isn't really THAT bad, you know......

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Just read this over on GlockTalk, the personal narrative of an off-duty police-woman: http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=364438

"Burglar met Louisville this morning.....
OH MAN AM I SCARED!!!!!!!!!!!

Last night I couldn't sleep for some reason. I had finish my set of nights for the week, and although I did get some shut-eye, I kept on waking up for some reason.

At about 0400hrs GMT I went downstairs, got a glass of milk and watched some crappy show for 45mins, jumped on GT and then went back to bed. I was half asleep again when I started hearing noises downstairs. It was the rubbish bins, which isn't unusual as we have loads of foxes here as it's half rual/half surburban.

I live on my own and I have got a semi-detached 3 storey house with a small garden at the back. I have quite high fences either side, and the security is pretty darn good.

I nod off, only to be awaken by the bedroom door being open. My bedroom is on two levels as I have had my loft converted. Where I should sleep, is where I have my computer and my wardrobes etc, and my bed is upstairs. My house is about 100 years old and the floorboards are a bit creeky in places. I can hear someone downstairs in the lower part of my bedroom. Then I hear the BG's feet coming up the stairs towards me in my bed.

I have to say at this point I am sh*ting myself BIG TIME!! I am a female living on her own, with crappy UK laws to protect me. As far as I am concerned this guy wants to **** me. The TV etc etc is all downstairs and they could have had that away without me knowing easy. There is no reason for him to come into my bedroom other than for one thing.....

I grab hold of the Jnr Louisville Slugger that I keep by my bed, along with my Surefire G2 and hold it ready. Picture this. There is no light in the room, but my eyes are pretty well adjusted to the dark by now, so I can see this frigging huge shadow in front of me.

The next thing I do is crack the bat over his head and put him down. I grab hold of his arm and shine the torch right in his eyes. This is first to blind him, but also to see what damage has been done, and if I need to continue with some more....

The guy punches me in the boobs and tries to run, so I go after him and I catch him on the ground floor. I trip him up and somehow manage to pin him face down on the floor with his arm behind him. I stick a goose-neck move on him and he stops kicking out. I managed to just reach my land-line phone by the antena and dial 999.

I tell the operator that I am an off-duty police officer, that has detained an intruder inside their house and I want back-up like NOW!!

She states that she will 'pass it to the units once she has got some details from me' I went frigging mad!!! I am lying on top of this probable sex attacker in my PJ's and she wants me to hold the line whilst she takes down my details. I don't think so !!!!!!

Then she tells me that a unit is on it's way after I shouted at her that I was an off-duty cop that required URGENT assistance. By the tone of my voice and the un-lady like language that I was using, I think she got the message.

I was waiting 25 MINUTES for back-up to arrive. When it did I wish it hadn't... They threatened ME with arrest for assaulting HIM as he had no weapon on him !!!???!!! The only thing that seemed to stop them was that when the BG was put in the back of the van he commented on how I looked naked, and what he wanted to do to me when he got out........sick *********. It turned out he had been sat in my garden for most of the night and saw me get ready for bed.

I have never lost it so badly in all my life. I wanted to kill him right there and then....I'm sure it was the adrenaline that was pumping through me that made go...

As I've arrested this chap I went to the local station after getting changed and go through the booking in procedure etc. The boss there, then turns round to me to get me to write my evidence there and then. I refused. I know as a firearms officer that I should not make a full statement until at least 24hrs after the event, so that all the shock can go out of my system. As much to their threats of arrest etc I refuse and make a very brief statement. They've seized my baseball bat from me, so I am now defenceless. Great!!

I've made my full statement and have just got back from making it and I thought I would share this as it's making me feel better, and everyone needs to know that there are these sick ******** out there. This area is dead quiet for crime, and the worst we've had has been youths hanging around the local store, that sort of thing. I'm going to move. I can't stay here anymore. That and I'm going to buy a GSD from my Dept dog school to help protect me. I've wanted one for ages and I think it's about time I commit. I love these dogs and would happily trust my life with a police GSD..

As you can imagine. I will not be getting any sleep tonight...

Stay safe......

Louise"

And I thought CANADA was screwed up...
 
If I hadn't read so many similar stories from England, I would say that story was fake.

As is, I don't even know how to respond.
 
Personal protection and self-defense are not only GOD given rights but responsibilies. Ultimately you are responsible for your own protection.

Ever heard the old saying? "It's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6."
 
There are a number of points that cause my BS detector to flutter:

As I've arrested this chap I went to the local station after getting changed and go through the booking in procedure etc. The boss there, then turns round to me to get me to write my evidence there and then. I refused. I know as a firearms officer that I should not make a full statement until at least 24hrs after the event, so that all the shock can go out of my system. As much to their threats of arrest etc I refuse and make a very brief statement.
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Firstly, as most Police officers in this country would know, a person detained for criminal offences (not terrorism) can be detained for 24 hours (extendable to 36 in rare, 72 in very rare, usually serious) offences, provided that the investigation is being done expeditiously. Given that the vast majority of the evidence in this case comes from the officer, to suggest that they would detain him (the suspect) for at least 24 hours before she wrote her statement (and before they could interview the suspect) stretches credulity, at least to me - no Inspector (who would have been reviewing this persons detention to make sure he was being dealt with expeditiously) would have authorised continued detention on that basis; and the alternative view - that they bailed out the suspect awaiting the statement without interviewing him - doesnt wash with me; people who assault WPC's in normal circumstances almost never get bail, never mind one who was attacked in her own home, in these circumstances.

Where firearms officers are told to write their statements down 24 hours later, that is because they have shot at someone, not because they have arrested someone or that they have been assaulted themselves. Nor can I imagine any circumstance where she would have been threatened with arrest for not writing her notes; though I would have expected the Insp. / Sgt to point out to her something along the lines of what I have written. Since it appears she has a similar level of service to myself (six years), one would have expected her to have both known and done this herself in the past.

I was waiting 25 MINUTES for back-up to arrive. When it did I wish it hadn't... They threatened ME with arrest for assaulting HIM as he had no weapon on him !!!???!!!
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I find that the most difficult thing to believe; even in the deepest part of the sticks an urgent assistance call brings everyone running (especially at that time of night, and in those circumstances); and to suggest that one police officer threatened a fellow, female, Police officer in her pyjamas with arrest for assaulting someone she had caught intruding in the circumstances described is unbelievable; I know there are some idiots in the Police but I would have thought noone could possibly be that stupid.

If its true, its a shocking state of affairs, but for the reasons above it doesnt ring true to me, it sounds too much like one of those stories we find months down the line on Snopes.
 
Ag' - my BS meter is also seeming a tad ''Snopes-ish''! Be interesting to read more from other sources.
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We probably wont hear more about it for a while as the matter is currently sub iudice, which come to think about it is another questionable state of affairs. I know GlockTalk isnt well known in the UK, but I wouldnt run the risk of allowing this bloke to get off because of posting that, which lets face it is almost certainly different to her statement.
 
I have my doubts. German Shepherd Dogs are usually 'Alsations' here, and we don't have a police 'Department', but 'Force' (Actually 'Service' is the PC word these days, not Force. As one longserving rozzer once said to me, "I joined a Force. Service is what I expect in a hotel." )
 
Two excellent points MkVII - I should have noticed those too. Certainly inconsistent with standard English useage.

Tho - the word ''loft'' was used, which I noticed as being sorta ''authentic'', as well as ''rubbish'' and ''garden'' etc.

Still does not yet really ring true eh!
 
and, it has all the elements of a well-written

story--ranging from plot to drama on forwards....BS meter is definitely fluttering.
 
FWIW the Met's "Dog Section" does refer to those dogs as German Shepherds, though they have been switching to Malinois recently and I am unsure as to whether they sell dogs on (they usually breed them, or buy them as pups and train them with the handler they'll be working with)

http://www.met.police.uk/dogsupport/structure.htm

As an aside, are there any LEOs anywhere who dont think those wonderful creatures are the best thing on their respective force? As one handler said to a (somewhat mauled) perp a couple of months back, "Why do you people always run?"

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This has been updated on GT:

It's going to be a long night......... I've just had a phone call to say that this creep has made bail.. As he has a fixed address and no previous record of burglary (which the only thing they are charging him with) then they say that they can't keep him in.
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Sorry, but I now have to say that this is almost certainly BS. There is no way any Custody Sergeant in their right mind would have given bail to someone who had stalked a WPC, broken in with the aim of assaulting her and made her hit him with a bat, and then has made witnessed comments like:

The only thing that seemed to stop them was that when the BG was put in the back of the van he commented on how I looked naked, and what he wanted to do to me when he got out........sick *********.
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There is very little to no chance that someone who did that to any female would get bail, never mind when its one of your own. I would suggest the chances of that happening are zero, or a load of naughts with a one some miles down the line. It just wouldnt happen, if it did you would probably see most of SO19 / DPG or whoever she works for parked outside her house, to say nothing of the forest of complaints that would descend on the desk of whoever the Sgts line manager was.

Its also very unlikely that said WPC would refer to him "making bail"... the most common usage over here is "being bailed", though she could have been changing her language for the benefit of US readers.

And yes, I am aware that there is no such rank as WPC any more but its easier to write than "female Police officer".

http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=364438
 
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FWIW I should point out that reading her previous posts suggests she is almost certainly from the UK and has some experience of the Met, although in this post-Google age you cant really tell as to how she came by what she has written and whether she is what she claims to be (someone serving at Heathrow).

I still have immense difficulty believing that story though.
 
Crappy weather
Warm beer
Cold girls
Soggy peas
Mushy brussels sprouts

Why are they our ally again??
 
Beatles and Zeppelin, yeah. Way over-rated. Stones. No way. Cant always get what you want.

Didnt they also give us The Monkeys? The BGs were from New Zealand I think (as was Olivia Newton-John). That's close enough for me. Both islands. People in both places talk funny.
 
I don't know whether the story is legit but I would bet dollars to donuts that the writer is British.

Just my gut having lived in a British colony for several years and having visited GB many times...
 
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