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If THAT is the most threatening situation you've ever been in, I'm not surprised you put it in such terms.
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First , I was responding to another posters comments about when you can pull your weapon . The comments about the not so nice people were so I don't get in trouble with the mods here , describing the slim ball , gold teeth sporting , baggy pants wearing dirt bags that want to rob , rape and kill honest citizens . You even admitted in your pizza story that you only put your hand on your weapon inside your jacket , right ? That's all I'm saying . And I have been shot at ( drunk rednecks in a bar parking lot , shot gun , looked like a freakin howizter !) , Had a mexican point a nice BIG shinny revolver at me in a parking lot because my buddy made a comment about his G/F in the grocery store ( she was hot ) . Had a redneck ( same bar different redneck ) swinging a 6 ft chain at me . Last but not least , one of my buddies told a stripper the she looked like a guy / transvestite , she slaps him , her biker friends get involved , my buddie decides to act like he has a gun in his belt . Well he didn't , but one of the patched bikers did ( 38 snubbie ). Talking , backing away and leaving quickly kept things from getting out of control . It must be noted that each time I was not armed ( before I had my CCW ) . I never did see any elephant ?


You bring up many good points in your last post that I agree with and even follow myself . I am just wondering when "you" are going to "pull" your weapon ? Again , all I'm saying is in Florida , you point a weapon at someone you just might end up in jail . Putting your hand on your weapon is not pulling it . Make no mistake , I have no problem putting someone down that is a deadly threat to me or a loved one , that's what my G26 is for .
 
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Thank you all for sharing the great experiences. I am sure it was tough to type for some of you, but it is appreciated and educational to hear how your situations were handled and resolved. It better prepares us to understand how our potential attackers think and act.

I got just what I wanted: some real accounts of true threats and the different ways they can be handled without firing shots.

If anyone has more to add or debate, I'm still following.

Thanks.
 
Almost once... Late at night in a gas station in the not so nice part of town.

The situation was strange, but I belive the place was about to be robbed when myself and a few other customers happened to arrive at the same time.

One of the two fellas who were up to no good was acting erratically and wound up threatening the clerk. He didn't know that I was standing in the far corner of the gas station behind a lot of shelves trying to decide at which point I would be justified if my Sig cleared leather.

They got spooked and left.
 
Ok I'll take door number 3................

First thing, wow, thanks for all the intresting posts, just made a borrring night at work more fun....

After CCW'n LEGALLY now for a couple years, I really see where the point of sittuational assesment comes to practice, you start to more an more be situational aware of your surroundings, you start to go hey is there something going on I might not have noticed.....

Like the other Night I stopped to check on a car that just crashed along I75 at 4 am....being a ex medic/FF I thought OMG this looks bad.... but as approaching the wreck from down past it 2 subjects start to approach me and take flanking 10 and 2 position, so DING DING DING, I yell are you guys OK? while on phone to 911 who is yelling at me for more info, I have to tell her to shut up a second I think I have a problem, she's rambling on, i'm trying to assess the threat level, I yell to them and to go back to the vehicle help is comming, as I am walkin backwards they still approach, I put my hand on the hip holster, they finally get the idea they walk back to wards the car then dart an clamber up into the woods and away.....can you say Stolen Car?

About 10 yrs ago camping in remote VA Highlands we were forwarned of a couple country bumpkins in a beat up old pick up robbing campers in remote campsites, lo' and behold 2 nd night a old beat up p[ick up shows up, with 3 good ol boys, luckily my buddy an I are at the 7 oclock in the campground and as one of the boys seems to be all casually moving hand on seat back and closer to the sotgun in the shotgun rack, my partner an I take notice turn and , we turned to sideways shooter stance, and with right hand drew an had them still down but next to our legs readey, and they noticed our stance but we hadnt shown our hands, seems they got the pic, left talked to the sheriff next day he wishes we would have shot them....lol
 
Grandma did it

Back in 1926, in Greensboro, NC, my Grandparents lived on Guilford College road. Grandpa was a railroad man, and out of town. My Father was 8 at the time, in the house with his younger sister and my Grandmother. A glass window broke, she reached for the .22 Special pump that they had, and confronted the intruder with the safety off. He threw something at her head, then turned and dived out the window. As he was scampering away, she pumped several rounds into his back... He was never seen or heard from again. Over the years, the number of shots began to increase in the retelling, especially by Grandpa, but I had the occasion to ask her about it when she was 94. "I got four into him, two more I'm not sure of".



Fortunately, I keep all my feathers numbered -Foghorn Leghorn
 
A few months ago I was camping, in a pretty remote place. I came out of my tent to find a large man standing there pointing a knife at me and demanding my wallet. I said "ok, let me get it", and reached into my bag and pulled out a revolver. I yelled some obscenities at him and he ran away like a little girl. :D I fired a couple shots in the air as he ran.
 
Twice:


1) I had just purchased my wife's engagement ring and had to take it to another jeweler to be sized (where I bought it contracted this out to the other). I went in and got the work done and came back out. It was daylight but a rough part of Durham, NC. As I got in my truck I locked my door (automatic thing that I always do). As I started my truck I see a guy in my side mirror, he's approaching from the rear and trying his best to avoid the mirror but failing. He gets to my window and knocks on it. If you lookup "crackhead" in the dictionary you'll know what he looked like. This guy was bugged out and real twitchy. I shook my head "no", and put the truck in reverse. He steps up against the door and tries the handle with a determined "I'm gonna get in there" kinda look on his face. At this point if I'd tried to back out of the tight parking space I was in I would've probably run over him or at least his foot. So instead I reached under my seat and retrieved my 9mm where I'd left it when I went in the CCW unfriendly store. I did not point it at him, but laid it in my lap with my hand still on it and my best "Do we really want to go there?" look on my face. He immediately put both hands in the air and backed up. I don't know what he was expecting to happen but it obviously wasn't to see me with a gun.

2) I was in a mall parking lot in the same part of Durham (Yes I've since stopped going there). I was reaching into my car across the driver's seat to put some packages in the passenger seat when I "sense" someone approaching. I slipped my head and upper body back out of the car and my left hand (I'm right handed BTW) found my 9mm under my seat. I didn't draw but left my hand where it was. As I turned and looked at the guy he kinda startled like he wasn't expecting me to see him coming. I notice that his right hand is out of view behind his hip. I also notice that he's with a woman whose car is stopped right behind mine blocking me in. He immediately started on some spiel about how he'd been robbed the day before in that very parking lot and needed some money to get back to Virginia and he said it happened "Right over there" (pointing) and really was trying to get me to turn away and look over my shoulder. All the while he's still inching and angling forward. I'm still crouched inside my open door with my left hand under the seat and I'm kinda stuck. Can't back up, can't get into the car because I'd have to turn my back and would never make it, not to mention that there's a car right behind mine even if I got in and got the door closed/locked. I yelled "STOP" as loud as I could. At which several people nearby stopped and looked at both of us. At that point he stopped and shut up for a minute. I then said, "Turn around and go back to your vehicle, slowly. I've got nothing for you that you want." I guess he realized then that my left hand was out of view for a reason. He backed up the way he came and got in his car. I guess I'll never know and will always wonder what he had behind his hip. Either way I didn't want to find out the hard way. After they pulled away I sat there and let my heart get down to a normal rhythm before I could even back out of the parking space.
 
I have had to many a night even had to pull several times. Druggies seem to think your playing. I had one idiot teenager grab my glock as I left taco hell one day. He tried to pull it out of my level3 And me in uniform . Knocked him back over a table then proceeded to load him. Scared the wits out of a few people but the ones setting closest to me had bug eyes from him grabing my 40. Oh course the usual why would you hit him for doing that ?
Now If I pull have to rack by policy . oh yea wait I disobey it daily carry loaded. Home or hospital I know which one I vote for.
 
Never had to pull, have had to expose, once. I was picking up a Playstation 3 on release day for a friend of mine here in town. That AM, as I was getting ready to leave the house, I heard news reports of someone getting stabbed/mugged/shot (I can't remember which) over their PS3. I thought "that would be my luck" and walked out the door. As I picked up the PS3 and left the store (which was on the edge of a bad side of town) I looked to my left and saw 4 teens that looked to be about 16. I heard one say "Let's get that cracker's PS3." I was in a bad way, the ps3 was in my right hand (and naturally, I'm right handed.) I turned around and faced them, swapped hands as quickly as I could, pulled my jacket back and showed them what wooden target grips look like on a K frame. I think they decided do save up or ask Santa for one, I'm not sure which. I hope I don't have to experience anything like that again.

Justin
 
Okay, I'll play. I was heading home from work early in NYC and was riding the #6 train through the Bronx. I of course was not carrying at the time becouse my NY permit excluded New York City and all of it's boroughs too. I was the only one on the train when 6 youths (15-17 year olds) got on my car. I was soon surrounded by said youths with only a rolled up set of blurprints and my Emerson CQC-9 for protection. I'm not a huge guy here but I was bigger than any one of these punks, and I had age and experience going for me too. That being said, I did'nt think I was going to make it out of this but still planned on going down fighting. Just as things were at critical mass this tiny Transit Authority Cop (all of about 5'-6") walks into the cabin with the nicest Glock I had ever seen. The punks scattered like roaches and I breathed a sigh of relief, but sure wish I had had my .45 with me that day. I informed the cop of what was about to go down as he was concerned about the Emerson in my hand so as I told him the story of how he just saved my life, I asked him if I had had my gun illegally instead of my knife, he told me I'd be under arrest instead of just heading home, and to leave the bad guys to the cops.

Not too long after that, I moved to Virginia.
 
A few times. The worst one was one morning when I was about 20. I was coming home from working a graveyard at a convenience store, pulled into the driveway, and started to go on into house, through the garage. What do I see? My drunk brother, (who at the time was also experimenting with cocaine) playing with something I couldn't quite make out. He sees me, turns around, and I see that it's a S&W M15, belonging to my dad. He pointed it at me, and said "I've been thinking about shooting someone a lot, lately. I just can't make up my mind. Should I shoot you first, or myself?" I don't remember drawing, just seeing my sights on his chest. I shouted at him to put it down, point it somewhere else, that I would shoot, etc. He laughed, and said, "OK, I guess I'll shoot myself first." He took careful aim at his right foot, and pulled the trigger. BANG! No blood, no ricochet, no nothing. Then he busted up laughing, and told me that it was loaded with blanks.

After trying several times, I got my own gun back in its holster, and took his away from him, cleared it, and spent the next four hours giving him an a$$ chewing about how close he'd come to dying. That's when Dad and I started putting serious thought into securement.

Anyhow. *shudder* The thought of drawing, with all it entails, is somehow made easier when it's some faceless, anonymous goblin, than when it's your own brother. Even when the poor kid is about half goblin himself.

~~~Mat
 
I have never drawn on anyone. But, I do at times late at night when walking into a parking garage lets say or between buildings like back in Medical School when I did walk with my hand in my carry purse ready in an instant to draw or probably shoot through the purse if need be. Teaching hospitals are usually not in a good part of town and are in large cities. Good place to grab women. My sister did draw on someone once. Some guy was coming at her a little too quickly. She barely got in her truck. As soon as she did she raised the gun (but did not point it at hiim). He rapidly, immediately RAN the other way.:eek:
 
BPSIG - "Now If I pull have to rack by policy . oh yea wait I disobey it daily carry loaded."


BP Sig, do you work for an LEO agency that requires the officers to carry a pistol without a loaded chamber???? Which one???

L.W.
 
Kim - thanks. That's great. I just was wondering. Most of my family members are MD's.

I seem to be the only one who didn't want to go into medicine.
 
well, i dont have my CCW yet, but i plan on getting one, mainly for when trail riding in my jeep and camping on the trail...some places i go, ive heard a lot of people that get robbed out there, one guy actually woke up to somebody going thru his things outside his tent...he starts moving around in the tent and they take off...another time, a friend of mine told me that a friend of his was wheeling out there, got his newly restoried 1978 Jeep Cherokee stuck in a mud hole and broke something on it trying to get it out.....well, he got a ride with is buddy in his truck to head in somewhere to get a new part, and they came back, and it had been pulled out, and the wheels/tires, and some other things had been stripped from it...i hope i never have to pull a gun on anybody, bc i dont want to know that fear to be put in that situation, but going to some of the places i plan to go to camp/trail ride, i know its a very good possibility as some people over on jeepforum have talked about being in the middle of nowhere and having some "locals" cut them off and get out of their truck to rob the guy in his jeep...some of them have had guns on them, and some havent...i dont want to not have the gun on me if it happens to me, as rare as that would be

but, my way of thinking about it, is id rather have the CCW and not need it, then need it and not have it, like in a situation like that
 
Yes

When I always thought I would be very afraid I was not. Actually was calm and intent. However the worse thing I ever heard was, 'have you ever been in cuffs before'. This is a serious topic and the basis of our right to be armed to defend ourselves. Even if you are 100% in the right, you must never forget violence is the last resort, everything you own and hold dear is on the line if you lose or win.
 
Three times with a pistol or revolver and 2 times with a knife...no details will be supplied, but everything turned out ok...barely.
 
One time in almost 20 years of carrying...

I was pulling into a restaurant parking space and a couple folks with a customized car (York, PA Hot Rod week) wanted the spot. They had been drinking I think..but they were making threatening moves and gestures. I had my .38 out and in my hand (low, so not visible to them).
Wifey said "this isn't worth a gunfight" or words to that effect...and she was right. We pulled out and went to another place to eat (great food, BTW!).

Did I feel in imminent danger?...no, I was still in my car. When the hot rod (a sedan) pulled up, there were 3 or 4 other guys in it. That could have made life interesting if they had gotten out.

But, we left and everything ended peaceably. My "manhood" may have taken a hit, but "manhood" is not a valid self defense scenario.
 
Only once. In 1975 (I think) I was exiting my store after closing up. While locking the door, I could see, in the shadows, a cigarette glow. It was about 15 feet away. Because a common method of robbing stores is to catch the people leaving and force them back inside, I thought I was about to get robbed. I pulled my gun. Because I was in the light the person waiting could see what I was doing. He called me by name. Turned out to be the friend of an emplyee. Scared the :cuss: out of us both. Told him to let me know he was there next time...and he always did.
 
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