EVERYONE HAS PRIMERS???

I need to stock up on SRP, but at current prices, I have been buying cases of Lake City cartridges instead. Those prices seem to have stagnated since the beginning of the year. I had to scrounge to find deals and rebates that would get me LC 5.56 at less than $0.40 taxed and shipped. It's not been getting easier, but the prices are not rising either.

I need a small amount of LRMP for load development and hunting. Those still seem very scarce and costly, but the quantity I need is so small that the price doesn't matter much. I decided to forbear applying for pronghorn tags this year because my sons had bonus points and I did not. Even so, they didn't win the tags. That means it will be at least two seasons before I need those LRMP, because they'll apply with 2 points next year and I won't spoil their chances with my 1 point (party hunt). If they get tags next year, in 2025, I'll have a point and they won't, so we'll see if we get tags then. Their rifles can use LRP or SRP. The boys did get Mule Deer tags again (from the junior pool). Some season in the future they won't hunt with me because they'll be at college or something and then I'll use my points and those LRMP. Until then, I can wait.

I have plenty of SPP from 2019, but I'll resupply when the prices fall to 4 or 5 cents depending on the make/model. I understand inflation won't result in prices going down, but a supply glut could and a glut in SPP is the most likely. Military demand for SRP is not likely to allow for a supply glut in those anytime soon.
 
Because of the Federal government printing a lot of cash the dollar is not worth as much as it used to be. Prices of everything have gone up. They won't be coming down. Better stock up while you can.
 
Tall said:
Because of the Federal government printing a lot of cash the dollar is not worth as much as it used to be. Prices of everything have gone up. They won't be coming down. Better stock up while you can.
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Thank you. I read through everything on this thread to see if someone would say exactly this. Also, we are right around the corner from another presidential election. That is how we got in the current mess, the last presidential election. I think this is just the calm before the next storm.
 
Up North said:
Sportsmans Warehouse is selling spp under 6 bucks per 100. Only let you buy 200 at a time. It's convenient for me as I go to health club close by. Sometimes I bring the wife with and get 400. I'm up to 3000 now. CCI 500 and Rem 1 1/5. Better price then Cabelas and Sheels if you don't mind not getting a brick..
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i went by sportsman's yesterday and got the fiocchi spp over the rem spp as i can only get 2 sleeves but each sleeve had 150 @ $8.25 just slightly cheaper than rem 1 1/2 per piece spp but you could get 300 instead of 200.
 
74man said:
Just got an ad by Brownells that CC! & Winchester Primers were on sale, I checked and that is their regular price.Don't buy at their prices. STOP BUYING AT THEIR PRICE AND WAIT FOR THEM TO COME DOWN TO AT LEAST $40 PER 1k.
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Absolutely crazy to think that will happen. Not everyone is sitting 50k primers deep because they were buying them before a lot of us were reloading. And some of us shoot a lot more than a lot of you that just sit on primers from the 80s/90s. I still shoot 6-10k rounds of 223 a year. Even with todays prices. That’s like saying you’re not going to buy fuel for you vehicle until it’s back down to 85c a gal
 
nastynatesfish said:
Absolutely crazy to think that will happen. Not everyone is sitting 50k primers deep because they were buying them before a lot of us were reloading. And some of us shoot a lot more than a lot of you that just sit on primers from the 80s/90s. I still shoot 6-10k rounds of 223 a year. Even with todays prices. That’s like saying you’re not going to buy fuel for you vehicle until it’s back down to 85c a gal
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my lgs had a full shelf of cci spp at $130/1000. i am curious as to see by how much he will drop it or he may choose not to afterall he still has powders selling for more than $50/lb. with the frequent sales coming on i am still on the sidelines as well for the same reason.
 
mdi said:
When has a price hike reversed after the "reason"? (consumer goods) Once the price goes up, does it ever come down to the point just before a hike?
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Prices go back down every time demand drops at a given price point. Gas went over $3/gal in 2007-8, came back down to under $2/gal for a while before covid, went up over $4/gal during covid, back down under $3/gal now, even during an era of significant economic stress. Primer prices have already come down from the peak pricing of covid. We’re still experiencing global economic crisis due to war and workforce pressures, and extreme inflation growth, so prices have not come back to their pre-covid points, but they’re down significantly - even while demand is still through the roof…

When people keep paying prices, prices hold, and when demand outruns supply, prices increase… when you see full shelves and hear crickets in the stores, you’ll see discounted pricing again. Retailers have already resumed promotional sales and have lifted purchasing limits, so this is already happening.

In some eras of high demand, simply having product to sell is competitive advantage, and any price is a fair price. In other eras, having the lowest competitive price is the only way to garner market favor. We’re not fully out of economic environment favoring the former, so we can’t yet enjoy the buyer-advantaged market of the latter.
 
Couple of days ago I finally made it into a pawnshop that I’ve been trying to go to for quite some time. They advertise heavily their powder selection on a local Internet site.

While there, I noticed they had primers. $10.99 for one sleeve and apparently no limit. They had about six bricks of small rifle sitting on the shelf. All CCI.

Supposedly, according to something I read from another individual our local Sportsmans Warehouse was getting in small pistol primers. He did not mention the going price. In 3+ years I have yet to see any on the shelf at that store. According to that same individual other primer sizes are far and few between. I have not been in that store in over six months.

Luckily, I have a pretty good stash in reserve and can still go another 2 to 3 years of shooting fairly routinely before I have to be concerned about replenishing the stock at that rate.
 
I think the prices will level off at around $60/1000. Not sure how much longer that will take, maybe the rest of the year. I still have plenty from a purchase about 3 years ago so I'm just going to wait this out. When they hit that price I'll purchase another 10K. If they go below that I'll buy even more.

It's nice to have powder and primers when one doesn't have to sell a kidney to keep shooting.

Primers and powder aren't perishable items. Well, they are but it takes a long time. If one has the space and financial ability to purchase enough for a few years when prices are favorable, do it.

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74man said:
STOP BUYING AT THEIR PRICE AND WAIT FOR THEM TO COME DOWN TO AT LEAST $40 PER 1k.
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If you stop buying primers with the anticipation of them dropping back to pre-pandemic lunacy then sell off your reloading stuff, the days of $40 per 1k of primers are gone. The new normal is what it is right now, maybe the prices will drop some but I would feel pretty safe betting that primers will never go below $80 per 1k.
 
74man said:
I am thinking around $40 per 1K would be a great price. If those firearm sites don't want to lower their prices to sell Primers, then they can just sit on them forever cause I have done my share of being gouged.
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We'll never see primers at $40 again. They may come down a bit. I'll bet the new normal price for primers will be about $70 per 1000.

Small pistol primers can be found but the Large are still hard to find.
 
I shoot 3 to 4 times a week on my own range. I reload at least 20 different calibers. I can continue shooting this way for years. I just changed my shooting habits. When I fire a SA rifle I don't bring a whole ammo can out, I just grab a box or two. I started favoring my single shot black powder cartridge rifles. Usually a box of 450/577 Martini Henry, 577 Snider or 45-70 is all the fun my old shoulder can stand. Black powder prices have dropped to about pre pandemic levels after the importers stepped in after Goex folded. Look for sales and hazmat waivers and buy as much as possible or split with a friend to get case discounts.
 
I was surprised 2 weeks ago when I walked into Sportmans here and they had Primers! Something not seen in about 8 months there. CCI Mag LPP were $6.12/100. Rem 1 1/2 SPP-$5.97/100, CCI SPP and SRP were $5.54/100. The SPP-BR primers were about 8.00/100. As you well know Pre/during pandemic I Paid about $32 for 1k. Most I paid was 53.99 for 1k SPP match primers.They had a 1k limit at that time. Since however someone in marketing decided to put a 200 primer cap per day on sales. Well they also had Fiochi SPP 150qty packs for $8.25 so I got 2, getting an extra 100 primers, thus "beating" their 200 primer a day policy.... Take that Sportsmans! So i'm paying about $50-60 for 1k atm, which is per norm I guess. They were out of the CCI SRP, and SPP when I went there yesterday. But alotof the Fiochis and rem's
 
Primer shortage is much like the .22 shortage some years back, with a line of people at Walmart waiting for the store to open so they could buy whatever they could. Most all of those people had thousands of .22 at home, but just kept buying creating the shortage. I was guilty then, and I've been guilty over the past few years with both primers and powder. We are often our own worst enemy.
 
I just paid $5.54 per hundred for CCI small pistol primers at Sportsman’s Warehouse. These were the first primers I’ve seen in stock in a store in at least 3 years. They had about 7000 of various sizes and brands on the shelf with a limit of 200.

I thought it was a very fair price, much better than I’ve seen advertised lately, I hope they can keep them in stock at or close to that price.
 
Targa said:
If you stop buying primers with the anticipation of them dropping back to pre-pandemic lunacy then sell off your reloading stuff, the days of $40 per 1k of primers are gone. The new normal is what it is right now, maybe the prices will drop some but I would feel pretty safe betting that primers will never go below $80 per 1k.
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Some already have, but I’m sure retailers love reading that sort of thing.
 
No arguments from me ^^^. Hey, I wish everyone were more like me and just picked up stuff as they needed it. If they were like me, we would still be at 30-40 dollars per thousand of primers and we would be swimming in the availability of powder and brass. Simple fact is people panic buy and hoard for no other reason than prepping for that end of the world garbage which is gaining more traction everyday. It is very frustrating but it’s just the way it is.

So yes, if you are in need of primers but are waiting for pre-pandemic prices, sell your reloading gear, it is just wasting space.
 
Don't expect CCI/Winchester/Remington primers to go below 8 cents. Because that's about where the materials/labor/overhead put American production of primers, such that the company can still make any profit at all.

CCI/Winchester/Remington will just stop production, and send people home, if they aren't selling at 8 cents.

The foreign companies have not failed to notice this. Expect to see more foreign primers. Although, I don't trust ANY of the foreign primers for full 5.56 pressures unless the packaging says MAGNUM. And we haven't seen MAGNUM foreign primers in more than a decade.

You're gonna be paying 10-cents-plus for CCI 450/41/BR for the foreseeable future.

CCI 400's (and as far as I can tell all the foreign small rifle primers) are only 0.020" thickness (no good for full 5.56 pressure).

CCI 450/41/BR and Remington 7 1/2 are each 0.005" THICKER than 400's and the foreigns.

Winchester doesn't make a magnum small rifle primer. Avoid Winchester entirely for full 5.56 pressure.

The price of AMERICAN semi-skilled labor (primer-makers) has gone up. Way up. People won't come to work unless you pay them. You'll NEVER see 3-cent primers again because no AMERICAN will work for that little money.

These guys might work for less:
https://fb.watch/kQpFDhROB0/

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W.E.G. said:
Don't expect CCI/Winchester/Remington primers to go below 8 cents. Because that's about where the materials/labor/overhead put American production of primers, such that the company can still make any profit at all.

CCI/Winchester/Remington will just stop production, and send people home, if they aren't selling at 8 cents.

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Some of us have posted that we are already seeing them sold for less than that, so it is possible.
 
W.E.G. said:
Don't expect CCI/Winchester/Remington primers to go below 8 cents. Because that's about where the materials/labor/overhead put American production of primers, such that the company can still make any profit at all.

CCI/Winchester/Remington will just stop production, and send people home, if they aren't selling at 8 cents.

The foreign companies have not failed to notice this. Expect to see more foreign primers. Although, I don't trust ANY of the foreign primers for full 5.56 pressures unless the packaging says MAGNUM. And we haven't seen MAGNUM foreign primers in more than a decade.

You're gonna be paying 10-cents-plus for CCI 450/41/BR for the foreseeable future.

CCI 400's (and as far as I can tell all the foreign small rifle primers) are only 0.020" thickness (no good for full 5.56 pressure).

CCI 450/41/BR and Remington 7 1/2 are each 0.005" THICKER than 400's and the foreigns.

Winchester doesn't make a magnum small rifle primer. Avoid Winchester entirely for full 5.56 pressure.

The price of AMERICAN semi-skilled labor (primer-makers) has gone up. Way up. People won't come to work unless you pay them. You'll NEVER see 3-cent primers again because no AMERICAN will work for that little money.

These guys might work for less:
https://fb.watch/kQpFDhROB0/

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You sound pretty sure of your claims. Are any of them factual with references or just your opinion?
 
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