Extreme Shock Ammo Poll

What is your experience with Extreme Shock Ammo?

  • I have used this ammo with good results

    Votes: 3 1.6%

  • I have used this ammo with bad results

    Votes: 6 3.2%

  • I have not used this ammo

    Votes: 129 68.3%

  • I am giving it good reviews without testing it

    Votes: 1 0.5%

  • I am giving it bad reviews without testing it

    Votes: 50 26.5%
  • Total voters
    189
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I haven't injected heroin but can pretty-much infer from others that it's a crap product...
 
I did too! It took me a while to realize that they are actually trying to sell ammo. It didn't take much looking at their bullets to realise they didn't use any engineering to design them. They just drew them up and had Corbin make the dies for them. Corbin even supplies the plastic balls and metal powders.
 
For the prices they charge for a handful of rounds, they better be heat seeking ultra destructive mushroom cloud-laying apocalypse bringing bullets of death that not only kill your adversary but slaps his momma and sows his family fields with salt as well.
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This reply had me laughing so hard I thought I'd hurt myself.

:( My ribs hurt...
 
I am giving it bad reviews without testing it. Anything worth it's salt does not need to be advertised like that. Federal HST just comes in a box that says Federal HST. I mean,it's still a bullet (an eXtreme bullet,at that) and it'll still put a hurtin' on you, but it just seems so... cheesy.
 
But you know what? They must sell enough of it,because they've been around as long as I've been going to gun shows. 'Course the only guys I see buying it are morbidly obese and wearing camo pants and Team Glock t-shirts.
 
I've seen a couple of bad reviews on the stuff.

Nobody can say it better than hankdatank1362 did. :D

Also, in these times, I've developed the attitude that the actual worth of something is in inverse proportion to the amount of hype expended in advertising it.

Add it all up, I can figure it's overpriced junk without learning it the hard way.
 
I've seen a couple of bad reviews on the stuff.

Nobody can say it better than hankdatank1362 did. :D

Also, in these times, I've developed the attitude that the actual worth of something is in inverse proportion to the amount of hype expended in advertising it.

Add it all up, I can figure it's overpriced junk without learning it the hard way.
 
While in a generous mood, I'd likely assume ES was roughly equal to Mag Safe or the Glaser Safety Slugs. The concept of frangible "dump all the energy now" rounds is hardly new.

Between Mag Safe, Glaser Blue, Glaser Silver and the more "traditional" rounds such as Federal HST and the like, I believe one could cover the spectrum of what ES has to offer and then some.

Specifically to include dead pigs.

I'd be interested in hearing Mr. Ayoob's conjecture on the matter of a solid DGU with the stuff, though.

In the one case, we have a "good shoot" with the civil personal injury attorney noting that you used a Glaser Safety slug, or perhaps a Mag Safe round. You'll still be pilloried but the ammo won't add much to your discomfort.

or you could have used...

A Fang Face anti-terrorist, exploding eXtreme projectile of ninja doom... used on a disadvantaged youth that happened to be breaking into your home probably looking for a public phone.

Mr. attorney for the plaintiff notes the various "testimonials", one of which states:
I thought I just clipped a guy in the leg. After they removed the lower half of his leg...
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Jeez, wasn't good enough to just shoot him, hunh, had to amputate his leg (head, whatever) with some killer round designed specifically to blow up the entire Taliban.

...and the next time someone is posting in defense of their marketing they're doing it from their cardboard home underneath a bridge (no criminal charges, so they're free - just broke).

Of course, the above is just a little free-form conjecture on my part.
;)
 
"For the prices they charge for a handful of rounds, they better be heat seeking ultra destructive mushroom cloud-laying apocalypse bringing bullets of death that not only kill your adversary but slaps his momma and sows his family fields with salt as well."
Thanks I needed a good laugh today. I have not used this as I cannot afford to put several hundred rounds through my gun to verify its function to my own comfort level. Federal HS 230g for me mainly on reccomendation of local LEO's who use same weapon as myself. Its hard for a lawyer to claim I am using "designer killer bullets" or rounds when the police have the same ammunition under contract.
 
hotpig said:
I was buying it to test, nothing wrong with that is there? Plus I'm not obese, just big boned.
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hotpig
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Location: SW Illinois St Louis metro east
Metro STL? Then I've probably seen you at the Belleville and Collinsville gun shows!

And I meant no offense to any of our morbidly obese members who wear camo pants and Glock shirts, and who trust their lives to Extreme Shock ammo.
 
I was just joking with you. I never make it down to the gun shows because I work most weekends.

I gave up on selling at shows since my main product line is Ranger and Federal Tactical ammo. There is no market in Illinois for this stuff but I was considering crossing the river and trying in Missouri.
 
I voted not used but pass...
...based on Box o' truth test.
It had anemic expansion and overall performance.
The Extreme Shock ammo makes a couple of claims and we will look at the results. Please allow me to "paraphrase" some claims.

1. Claim: Their rounds are supposed to penetrate walls less than standard ammo.
Findings: The Fang Face penetrated 11 drywall boards, or over 5 interior walls without expanding or fragmenting. The Air Freedom round penetrated 4 boards, or 2 walls.

Less than a standard JHP round which penetrated all 12 boards, but still some penetration.

2. Claim: They are supposed to be able to penetrate a bad guy enough to be effective Stoppers.
Findings: Both the Fang Face and Air Freedom rounds only fully penetrated 1 jug and slightly entered the second jug.

This is equilivant of 3 or 4 inches of penetration in ballistic gelatin. Some experts have doubts that this is enough penetration to reach the vital organs of a bad guy.

3. Claim: They are advertised as worth their cost.
Finding: The cost for this ammo averaged about $1.85 per round, delivered. I see this as a big problem with "Specialty" ammo. We all know that it is very important to function test any carry ammo through your firearm. Who will or can afford to run 50 or 100 rounds of this stuff through a firearm to be sure it functions without a hitch?
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot23_4.htm
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I do not need to pick up dog p@@p to know I do not want to step in it.
 
I may be a bit retro, but I like a more traditional type of round. I'll stick with a JHP from one of the big ammo companies.
 
I am giving it bad reviews without testing it..............because I don't need to test it. Enough people who know a lot more about terminal ballistics than I do have tested it and I trust their findings. But that's not the real issue anyway. The manufacturer is the one making the grand claims without anything to back it up....... well I guess they have those fancy ads.
 
Yeah, apparently Nytrillium is science-speak meaning: Mall Ninja Ammo*






*Ammo is intended for use only by the hard core, high speed, low drag operators waging video warfare in shopping malls all over America in the pursuit of XXXL Gap camo clothing, Cinna-Buns and oh yeah, intimidating other nerds and small children. :rolleyes:
 
The reason I put the last 2 things in the poll is to see who talks from lack of experience.
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When a friend considered purchasing it, I gave it a bad review and recommended that he save his money. I have not used this ammo.

I've never had prostate cancer either, but based on what I've read and what I saw as my grandpa slowly died from it, I gather that it sucks and I hope it's something I never have to deal with again.

Are my opinions unfounded?
 
All the reviews I've seen by people who are better at testing than myself say it's bad ammo.

The only postive review I've seen was the Gunblast article about shooting the pig, but there were two problems with that article I couldn't ignore: 1. He went with the owner of the company who makes the ammo. Hmm.. 2. He shot it with a round that isn't their super-duper terrorist exploding rounds (air freedom and fang face). It was their EPR round (which looks, um, like a pretty standard soft point).

I haven't tried the ammo because I don't want to trust my safety to a 95gr frangible round that doesn't penetrate, and it costs almost double what CorBon DPX costs (which has done VERY well in all the tests I've seen).

The logo is always good for a laugh though.
 
Giving it bad reviews based on this Box of Truth entry:
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot23.htm
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The box of truth review showed the ammo did what it advertised.

1. Claim: Their rounds are supposed to penetrate walls less than standard ammo.
Findings: The Fang Face penetrated 11 drywall boards, or over 5 interior walls without expanding or fragmenting. The Air Freedom round penetrated 4 boards, or 2 walls.

Less than a standard JHP round which penetrated all 12 boards, but still some penetration.

2. Claim: They are supposed to be able to penetrate a bad guy enough to be effective Stoppers.
Findings: Both the Fang Face and Air Freedom rounds only fully penetrated 1 jug and slightly entered the second jug.

This is equilivant of 3 or 4 inches of penetration in ballistic gelatin. Some experts have doubts that this is enough penetration to reach the vital organs of a bad guy.

3. Claim: They are advertised as worth their cost.
Finding: The cost for this ammo averaged about $1.85 per round, delivered. I see this as a big problem with "Specialty" ammo. We all know that it is very important to function test any carry ammo through your firearm. Who will or can afford to run 50 or 100 rounds of this stuff through a firearm to be sure it functions without a hitch?

Even if someone buys enough ammo to fill their magazine, it is unlikely that they will thoroughly test the functionality of the ammo.
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This was a biased report by the Box O' Truth. Shame on them. "Some Experts" - what a load of crap. Who, and what empirical evidence do they offer. The ammo has less penetration on soft targets, more penetration on hard targets - as advertised. It's unlikely that they will thoroughly test the functionality of ammo - that's true for all high end ammo.

Frankly some of you are too lazy to do your own testing, or too lazy to do real testing (Box O' Truth is so far from scientific testing as to be laughable. Control groups to them mean how well you stay on target. Control groups to scientists mean something different altogether. To their credit, their conclusion usually is simply that shooting is fun so shame on everybody else for treating Box O' Truth testing as lab quality results), and too closed minded to try anything new. That's fine and you have a right to be that way.

Ninja terrorist hunter logos are far less offensive to me than ammo companies and firearms companies who don't have the balls to offer products we really want because they are politically correct.

I've used the 44 magnum claw type in a S&W revolver. The results are quite impressive on wet targets. Shooting into mud creates a violent explosion of mud. These are not designed to penetrate like ball ammo. Choosing ammo is always a tradeoff no type is best for every situation.

There is precious little data about the effectiveness of this ammo on animals. I took mine pig hunting 1 time but never saw a pig. It was hell on wheels though when it comes to skunks and porcupines. At night it has a huge flamethrower effect (6 inch bbl) and it threw off a lot of recoil. On harder targets the results were unimpressive. When shot at 1/8 inch steel plate it simply disappeared in a puff of dust. The effect on bowling pins was about the same as Winchester JSP. The Winchester JSP made the steel plate (which was simply leaned up against a post) dance around a little.

I have never purchased it again and don't have any plans to purchase more. I just get tired of everybody jumping on the band wagon when you have never used it or even seen anybody use it.

For me the verdict is still out. I think it might be very effective from a pistol caliber carbine and suitable for tight space encounters where over penetration is a concern.

I can't comment of feeding issues.
 
For the record, I am not normally impressed by the Box O Truth's test results either, but how can you complain about those tests and then talk about wet targets and its effects in mud?
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I was just going to say that :)
 
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