Enachos
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Does anyone have any experience with these rounds? They look fairly interesting but I'm just curious as to how well they actually work... any opinions are appreciated
I kinda like hot chicks myself.
Extreme Shock
www.extremeshockusa.com/
NyTrilium Air Freedom Rounds, "Tungsten-Nytrilium Fragmentable Explosive Entry Air Freedom Round. The AFR round disintegrates when it hits hard targets such as many interior walls and airplane skins, but retains astonishing stopping power on organic targets."
.357mag 85gr 1738fps 570ft.lbs
.357SIG 85gr 1340fps 339ft.lbs
.38spl 85gr 1586fps 475ft.lbs
.40 S&W 100gr 1450fps 467ft.lbs
.45 ACP 125gr 1200fps 400ft.lbs
.45 GAP 125gr 1305fps 473ft.lbs
9mm 85gr 1531fps 442ft.lbs
NyTrilium Handgun Rounds (Fang Face & Personal Defense), "...The compressed Tungsten-NyTrilium™ Composite fragments upon impact, leaving a wound channel of catastrophic proportions. The expansive fragmentation characteristics of the ExtremeShock rounds transfer the bullets energy in a far faster time span than conventional hollowpoints. The resulting stopping power is utterly devastating. E-Shock rounds are engineered to expend maximum energy into soft targets, turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system. "
.32 ACP PDR 60gr 830fps 92ft.lbs
9mm FFR 124gr 1182fps 385ft.lbs
.357mag FFR 124gr 1498fps 168ft.lbs
.38spl FFR 124gr 1185fps 387ft.lbs
.40 S&W FFR 165gr 1125fps 464ft.lbs
10mm FFR 165gr 1209fps 535ft.lbs
.45 ACP FFR 185gr 1150fps 543ft.lbs
.44mag FFR 185gr 1675fps 1152ft.lbs
Nytrilium Handgun Rounds (Silver Savior), "The Silver Savior™ - Exposed Nose Explosive Entry Controlled Penetration Round. It is a non-Hollowpoint version of the Fang Face AntiTerrorist Round for Locales and Countries where Hollowpoints are Prohibited."
9mm SS 124gr 1182fps 385ft.lbs
.45 ACP SS 185gr 1150fps 543ft.lbs
.44mag SS 185gr 1675fps 1152ft.lbs
NyTrilium Subsonic Ammunition, "The lethality of the Extreme Shock round is beyond description. In the magazine of a capable operator it can be the difference between victory and defeat. Lead-free, with all the advantages of the Advanced NyTrilium composite it is regarded by many as the most effective CQB round on the market today."
.308 SW 150gr 980fps
5.56mm C 127gr 975fps
5.56mm Sub 127gr 975fps
.50cal SW 675gr 975fps
7.62x39 SW 150gr 946fps
Shot in bare gelatin:
1911, .45ACP, 185 gr "Nytrillium Fragmentable JHP", velocity = 1117fps
Penetration Recovered Diameter Recovered Length Recovered Weight
Bare Gelatin 5.5 - 9.0" Small Fragments N/A N/A
4-layer Denim 9.3 - 12.2" Small Fragments N/A N/A
Wallboard 20+" 0.42" 0.57" 181.1gr
CASE STUDY - Extreme Shock ammo
Doctor Gary Roberts has provided some excellent data. For example: Topic: Extreme Shock Handgun Ammo
The article summarizes:
Glock17, 9mm 85 gr "Air Freedom", velocity = 1598fps
Penetration Recovered Diameter Recovered Length Recovered Weight
Bare Gelatin 3.9 - 5.5" Small Fragments N/A N/A
4-layer Denim 14.6" 0.42" 0.48" 56.6gr
Wallboard 6.7" Small Fragments N/A N/A
http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Exotic_Ammo_FAQ/index.htmSUMMARY
It is my firm belief that the manufacturers of this type of ammunition preys upon the un-knowing public and is selling them a product which may not perform as well as much more "conventional" ammunition. This could have grave consequences for the unsuspecting buyer.
While a lot of this article dealt with LeMas in particular, the same applies to other manufacturers of this ammo in that they rely on an uneducated consumer to make a profit. That case study showed many of the arguments pushed by makers of this type of ammo, and also showed why their claims are not valid.
A common theme in all these wonder-bullets is their light weight, high velocity design. Taking this into consideration, I will make a blanket statement that they could work in certain scenarios. For this information, please refer to the Fackler article "A Reconsideration of the Wounding Mechanism of Very High Velocity Projectiles - Importance of Projectile Shape".
It can certainly be argued that very high velocity does have a quality all of its own, but the bullets in question don't quite have the velocity required to cause the massive tissue destruction shown in the article, nor do they have the correct shape to be shot out of a gun and be aerodynamic enough. Please read the article and see what you think. If you were to shoot someone and have an unobstructed shot at a torso, even the large, superficial wound these rounds would produce would probably be sufficient.
There's no doubt that they'd cause some nasty wounds when extremities are hit. But please don't confuse this with reliable performance when less than ideal factors are taken into account. Ideal scenarios are not likely to be present during a real-life shootout, and you may find yourself with much less than you bargained for by choosing this type of ammunition.
Looks impressive for $2 to $3 a round. I kinda like hot chicks myself.
I was kinda wondering about that myself...Dave, how exactly are you keeping mercury solid??
I never liked the Fang Face by itself, but I have had really good results when you drill a hole down the middle and fill it with solid mercury.Dave, how exactly are you keeping mercury solid??