Firemission Starbucks!

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Ok I commented and gave feedback.

Now off to go get an iced Venti Tazo Zen, because it's one of my favorite things ever on a hot day. I really hope SB doesn't cave to this nonsense.
 
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I make my own coffee - after the Navy any expensive coffee is wasted, as Navy coffee burned out my coffee taste buds...
Starbucks should be able to weather a lot - they leftists cannot survive without their double latte half and half, sprinkles, cream cheese and anchovies coffees...
 
Starbucks is not involving itself in political or social issues outside of the coffee business and the Antis trying to drag them into an issue unrelated to their business just because they are potentially vulnerable to attack is specious.
 
I make my own coffee - after the Navy any expensive coffee is wasted, as Navy coffee burned out my coffee taste buds...

I never have served, but Navy coffee is the best! , My BIL is a Marine, so the times we are on base and staying overnight we get Navy coffee. You made me smile, I would pay good money for Navy coffee :)

I cannot help in this because I don't do Facebook..

I don't either, however it does sadden me looking at postings like this one on Facebook that we need to be able to communicate with the other side of where we are coming from.
 
Like it or not, Starbucks is a huge enterprise frequented by hundreds of millions of people. Whether or not the particular coffee you drink is better or worse, is irrelevant. What is important is that we disable any attempt at turning them anti-gun. Right now, they're ambivalent-gun. It wouldn't be hard for them to just say, "oh well." And change corporate policy to anti-gun.
 
The best thing we can post is "I and my family appreciate Starbucks not politicising the Starbucks experience. For all those people with agendas having nothing to do with coffee or restaurants or fair trade, find something constructive to do with your time instead of meddling with a company that respects the local laws and the local customer."
 
Sorry, don't do facebook and their coffee tastes like asphalt.

They have a new brew called blonde roast which is pretty decent and is much less bitter than the regular brew.

Judging by their past statements on the matter, they are not pro gun per se. They are just wisely choosing not to involve themselves in either side of a divisive political issue. That at least deserve some thanks, so I stop in from time to time to buy a cup.

that said, in all the years that I've been going into Starbucks, I've never even seen a firearm there. It's almost as if this is a "problem" that exists only in the minds of anti gun people.
 
From the linked to article (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/martha-rosenberg/starbucks-guns_b_2988849.html)

While forward-thinking corporations like California Pizza Kitchen, Peet's, IKEA and Disney banned guns from their premises when presented with a petition from the Brady Campaign with 33,000 signatures over a year ago, Starbucks refused.

Umm, she does realize that IKEA's ghostbusters sign doesn't carry the force of law right?

Gunshot accidents have already been reported in Starbucks stores.

I was curious, so I followed their link to here: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2011-12-28/starbucks-gun-fires/52252886/1. Wouldn't you know it, the offender's name wasn't released because she was under 18. If the person who had the AD (didn't hit anyone luckily) was already carrying illegally under state law, what makes the author think a sign would have stopped her? :confused:
 
If the person who had the AD (didn't hit anyone luckily) was already carrying illegally under state law, what makes the author think a sign would have stopped her?

Don't you know that common sense does not have any place in common sense gun laws or thinking!

It does not matter that it was someone breaking the law, it is still a credible example because they say so.
 
Posted a supportive comment on Starbucks' facebook page. I personally like the flavor of Dutch Bros coffee better, but Starbucks as a company consistently does stuff I approve of, so I sometime buy their stuff to support the company.
 
I don't do facebook, and I don't drink, so, um... sorry I can't help, but I hope Starbucks remains firearm friendly.
 
Just to refresh the memory, Starbucks CEO took the stand that Starbucks would not "follow the leader" several years ago when the anti's in Washington State were pushing for businesses to post the "No Guns" sign to keep out legitimate CCW permit holders. They basically stated that if permits and licensing were good enough for the state, they would not infringe on the rights of the gun toters. You have to appreciate that in this day and age. If I have that wrong, or left something out, please correct me.
 
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Just to refresh the memory, Starbucks CEO took the stand that Starbucks would not "follow the leader" several years ago when the anti's in Washington State were pushing for businesses to post the "No Guns" sign to keep out legitimate CCW permit holders. They basically stated that if permits and licensing were good enough for the state, they would not infringe on the rights of the gun toters. You have to appreciate that in this day and age. If I have that wrong, or left something out, please correct me.

You're thinking of Howard Schultz. I remember doing a case study on him in business school some 15 years ago when Starbucks was an up-and-coming company.

He has stated on numerous occasions that he is not a gun guy himself but he wants to be sure that everybody is welcome at his business. On more than one occasion he has taken such a position on divisive political topics. This was his response to a shareholder who complained that his company pays benefits to same-sex partners:

If you feel respectfully that you can get a higher return than the 38% you got last year, it's a free country. You could sell your shares at Starbucks and buy shares in other companies.

The guy clearly wants to avoid excluding anyone from being a customer or an employee.
 
We need to constantly remind people like Martha Rosenberg (author of Huffington article) that their "forward thinking" agenda is just a rehash of the Jim Crow laws.

The only difference is that the definition of "persons of color" has been enlarged to include all gun owners. It was bigotry then and is bigotry now--how does that add up to being "progressive"?
 
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