herrwalther
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I don;t drink coffee but will be sure to stop by and order...something. And to let them know I support their stance.
Firemission Starbucks!
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Blackstone
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10 rounds a minute is the new scary "automatic" rate?
OilyPablo
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Starbucks is fine. They actually believe we HAVE a Constitution and that certain rights are inalienable.
Facebook on the other hand is for other people. They might believe in something close to free speech.
Facebook on the other hand is for other people. They might believe in something close to free speech.
wgaynor
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Facebook just deleted my post on starbucks page and banned me from posting for a while. My comment: I don't think the opinion of others should affect what I do in a daily life. Judy, don't press your views on me, and I won't press mine on you.
Said it was inappropriate speech
Said it was inappropriate speech
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Rockwolf66
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Wgaynor, that sounds like Judy from the "Occupy the NRA" page. they have a habit of mass reporting statements that they get offended over. the sad part is that Anyone standing up for their 2nd amendment rights offends them.
There is an effort at Hypocrisy and Stupidity of Gun Control Advocates to counteract Judy and her fellow travelers. They have been keeping an eye on the Occupy the NRA page and are try their best to point out Occupy's lies.
There is an effort at Hypocrisy and Stupidity of Gun Control Advocates to counteract Judy and her fellow travelers. They have been keeping an eye on the Occupy the NRA page and are try their best to point out Occupy's lies.
leprechaun50
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I see that some of my comments from yesterday are gone too.
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I love a good cup of coffee, but only went into one Starbucks one time. I don't know how people drink that swill. As far as Facebook I know, nor do I want to know anything about it.
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I didn't know Starbucks didn't have a gunbuster sign. I can't afford a $5 cup of coffee due to all the sin taxes I am paying now.
Ramone
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ah, the five dollar cup o coffee. it's a myth.
While Starbucks will sell you a large, hand crafted, Coffee and Chocolate Slurpee sorta thing for about US$5.00 ( but don't even think of getting one- you'll be hooked ), their large 20 oz brewed coffee only costs about $.20 more than one from 7/11 or the like- and well worth the difference.
While Starbucks will sell you a large, hand crafted, Coffee and Chocolate Slurpee sorta thing for about US$5.00 ( but don't even think of getting one- you'll be hooked ), their large 20 oz brewed coffee only costs about $.20 more than one from 7/11 or the like- and well worth the difference.
It does in TN.
I applaud Starbucks, and started buying their coffee at Sam's Club when this came up last time and they just said "We follow the local laws". If licensed or legal carry is permitted in a. jurisdiction, that was good enough for them. I hope a sensible (and "common sense", liberals love that term) approach like that remains.
My post is still there. Are you sure yours have been removed, or just filtered by FB's automatic algorithm? You need to set the drop-down menu at the top-center of the timeline to "posts by others" instead of "highlights" to see a complete list of the posts for the past couple days.
wgaynor
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Mines been removed. Facebook suspended my account due to "violating their terms of agreements".
DeadMoneyDrew
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Mine are all still there. On all of my comments I made sure to compliment Starbuck's coffee or service and then thank them for their 2a stance. There's no point arguing with most antis anyway, since I can't dumb down my communication well enough to be understood.
Facebook has closed my account for twelve hours on account of the following post (they messaged me, said this message violated their community standards, and said my account was suspended for twelve hours as a consequence.
For context, "Lana" had posted a message on Starbucks page saying [edit] in her own words:
Guns with my coffee?- NO thanks! I will not be patronizing your stores - nor will my family and friends - until I and my children can enjoy our drinks in safety and without having to look at deadly weapons. PS there are plenty of other business that do very well with a gun free policy. Buffalo wild Wings, Home Depot, Applebees, Costco. The loss of only a few fanatical gun owners business won't hurt your bottom line - but losing Moms will
I stated in response:
Lana, I'm a parent of two young kids and I support Starbucks' policy. You won't find an example of a conceal-carry license-holder getting "twitchy" from their mocha and shooting someone in a Starbucks because it's never happened. On the other hand, nearly all mass shootings in the USA happen in "gun-free" zones. This policy would never stop the bad guys. It would just makes the rest of us more vulnerable (and thus enticing) targets.
I am blown away that my account was suspended as a consequence of THIS post, but according to Facebook, that's why. Unbelievable. EDIT: They sent me a link stating that this post is one of the following (they don't specify which): "a genuine risk of physical harm," "a direct threat to public safety," or "bullying or harassment" (though they stat that they "allow users to speak freely on matters and people of public interest"). I was posting on Starbucks' page in defense of Starbucks. That's not bullying an individual, but instead speaking on matters of public interest.
For context, "Lana" had posted a message on Starbucks page saying [edit] in her own words:
Guns with my coffee?- NO thanks! I will not be patronizing your stores - nor will my family and friends - until I and my children can enjoy our drinks in safety and without having to look at deadly weapons. PS there are plenty of other business that do very well with a gun free policy. Buffalo wild Wings, Home Depot, Applebees, Costco. The loss of only a few fanatical gun owners business won't hurt your bottom line - but losing Moms will
I stated in response:
Lana, I'm a parent of two young kids and I support Starbucks' policy. You won't find an example of a conceal-carry license-holder getting "twitchy" from their mocha and shooting someone in a Starbucks because it's never happened. On the other hand, nearly all mass shootings in the USA happen in "gun-free" zones. This policy would never stop the bad guys. It would just makes the rest of us more vulnerable (and thus enticing) targets.
I am blown away that my account was suspended as a consequence of THIS post, but according to Facebook, that's why. Unbelievable. EDIT: They sent me a link stating that this post is one of the following (they don't specify which): "a genuine risk of physical harm," "a direct threat to public safety," or "bullying or harassment" (though they stat that they "allow users to speak freely on matters and people of public interest"). I was posting on Starbucks' page in defense of Starbucks. That's not bullying an individual, but instead speaking on matters of public interest.
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SharpsDressedMan
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So are you guys going to continue to use Facebook, or sue them for defamation and unfair practices? If would seem that "Lana" did more insulting and provocation than you did.
OilyPablo
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Did you squeal on Lana? I think that's how that stuff works.
I like mods here better.
I like mods here better.
I'm not going to sue (the last think this world needs is another lawsuit over bruised feelings, and I'm saying this as a lawyer). But I am going to stop using Facebook as my primary social network unless facebook apologizes for doing this. I'll be switching my primary social networking over to Twitter and Google+ as a result if Facebook stands behind their actions. They're a private company, they can have whatever asinine policy they want, but they're going to lose my patronage over this (and I probably spend over an hour a day on their site).
DeadMoneyDrew
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I don't think it's that big a deal. I've had my account blocked before for "liking" pages too quickly and other such nonsense.
I've also for years been greeted with a suggestion that I "like" Justin Bieber whenever I log into Facebook.
their matching and security algorithms are mostly accurate but on occasion are really out of whack.
I've also for years been greeted with a suggestion that I "like" Justin Bieber whenever I log into Facebook.
their matching and security algorithms are mostly accurate but on occasion are really out of whack.
wgaynor
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I signed up for Google+ last night. I'll keep my Facebook account, but won't be using it as much. It is a great pre-screening tool for potential employee's that are in the interviewing process. You'd be surprised with the amount of people that do not set their profiles to private.
Do they have armed guards and metal detectors at the entry ways? If not it may carry the force of law, but it's only stopping the people who weren't criminally inclined to begin with.
In WA, where myself and the infamous Heidi Yewman live, Starbucks would have to start selling alcohol and become a bar if they want to actually prohibit people from carrying there. Even then that wouldn't stop the criminally inclined, unless they installed the aforementioned guards and metal detectors. Then they'd just have to worry about those porcelain Glock 7s from Germany
Still locked out of my facebook account for "threats" and "bullying."
Looking over the Starbucks facebook page, there's no rhyme or reason to which posts are gone and which remain. Mine was eminently polite and got banned, but posts using inflammatory language like "liberal" (which let's face it, is incredibly rude to people born with developmental disabilities) have been allowed to stay.
Theory: the "Occupy the NRA" posters are "reporting as inappropriate" any counter-posts that use reasoned debate instead of juvenile name-calling (which is how the antis want people to see gun owners). If a post is reported a number of times, FB is automatically blocking the user without any human oversight.
Looking over the Starbucks facebook page, there's no rhyme or reason to which posts are gone and which remain. Mine was eminently polite and got banned, but posts using inflammatory language like "liberal" (which let's face it, is incredibly rude to people born with developmental disabilities) have been allowed to stay.
Theory: the "Occupy the NRA" posters are "reporting as inappropriate" any counter-posts that use reasoned debate instead of juvenile name-calling (which is how the antis want people to see gun owners). If a post is reported a number of times, FB is automatically blocking the user without any human oversight.
Lex Luthier
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@Mitlov: I was once suspended for a day for friending everyone with my name. (It is not that uncommon of a name) There were about thirty other men whom I did not know, but was hoping to have a little fun. The day our current president was reelected, I put the kibosh on my FB account.
I knew that the censorship era of FB had already begun, and was not about to participate in their BS games. Do yourself a favor and leave FB and their metadatafication tactics behind.
I knew that the censorship era of FB had already begun, and was not about to participate in their BS games. Do yourself a favor and leave FB and their metadatafication tactics behind.
lobo9er
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If your a face book person thanking them for supporting the 2nd amendment might not hurt.
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