MagnumDweeb
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Towards the middle of December I got a used but loved S&W 19-4. It was a part payment for painting the outside of a house, with three hundred cash. It was old gunnie making a sale so his wife would allow him to get another one, something about two dozen plus handguns made her feel that if he wanted a new one he'd have to part with an old one. I knew the seller quite well, the original sale was for $200 but became part of a payment for painting the house after the sale was completed. Florida, private face to face sale.
Now I put up a previous post and someone mentioned that the 19-4s had been rumored to not be able to handle some of the recent 124grain loads because they were a little too hot but the usual 158 grain loads were perfectly fine. There was a risk of the forcing cone cracking I believe the poster mentioned. I've thought of contacting S&W and asking them what loads in .357 Magnum were best.
I'm currently waiting on a return letters from the local sheriff and Department of Agriculture, about the use of shoulder holsters and not having to remove the gun from the holster and put it in the glove box (the gun wouldn't fit in my Durango glove box) and being able to keep it in the shoulder holster with lawful abidance. If I can then the 19-4 will likely travel with me and my Rossi 461 snub 2" .357 (and yes I use magum JHP loads and double tap the eight ring at fifteen yards and four or six ring at twenty yards).
But looking at the utility of such an extra gun on hand made me think "If I have one for point A (defense of immediate person in close proximate defense, which the snub serves excellently) then should there be a point B for the second."
The 6" barrel makes the revolver, with .38 special, an excellent target shooter (And certainly a tame and lovalble shooter with .357 magnum) at twenty yards with one shot one second in double action, double taps are a dream. In single action it's almost impossible to go outside the eight ring on my rifle targets. So mayhaps it would best serve as a gun to be used in "defense of others" kind of situations where lethal force might be justified but accuracy is incredibly important. Like the Kangaroo Gas Station self-defense shooting that just happened, where making sure one knew where the bullets were going was quite important.
Now a lot of folks might say "It's a .357, use .357" and others will say ".38 Special out of 6 inch barrel is not something I'd want to stand in front of."
I'm thinking some Powerball .38 Special might make a nice, not likely to over-penetrate, fight stopper. Or maybe mixing it with some of the Gold Dot GDJSP .38 +Ps. If they don't drop after two dosses of Powerball , give them the rest.
Anyone use .38 special for SD in revolver that are not snubs, most folks I know that carry only .38 special do so in snub revolvers.
Now I put up a previous post and someone mentioned that the 19-4s had been rumored to not be able to handle some of the recent 124grain loads because they were a little too hot but the usual 158 grain loads were perfectly fine. There was a risk of the forcing cone cracking I believe the poster mentioned. I've thought of contacting S&W and asking them what loads in .357 Magnum were best.
I'm currently waiting on a return letters from the local sheriff and Department of Agriculture, about the use of shoulder holsters and not having to remove the gun from the holster and put it in the glove box (the gun wouldn't fit in my Durango glove box) and being able to keep it in the shoulder holster with lawful abidance. If I can then the 19-4 will likely travel with me and my Rossi 461 snub 2" .357 (and yes I use magum JHP loads and double tap the eight ring at fifteen yards and four or six ring at twenty yards).
But looking at the utility of such an extra gun on hand made me think "If I have one for point A (defense of immediate person in close proximate defense, which the snub serves excellently) then should there be a point B for the second."
The 6" barrel makes the revolver, with .38 special, an excellent target shooter (And certainly a tame and lovalble shooter with .357 magnum) at twenty yards with one shot one second in double action, double taps are a dream. In single action it's almost impossible to go outside the eight ring on my rifle targets. So mayhaps it would best serve as a gun to be used in "defense of others" kind of situations where lethal force might be justified but accuracy is incredibly important. Like the Kangaroo Gas Station self-defense shooting that just happened, where making sure one knew where the bullets were going was quite important.
Now a lot of folks might say "It's a .357, use .357" and others will say ".38 Special out of 6 inch barrel is not something I'd want to stand in front of."
I'm thinking some Powerball .38 Special might make a nice, not likely to over-penetrate, fight stopper. Or maybe mixing it with some of the Gold Dot GDJSP .38 +Ps. If they don't drop after two dosses of Powerball , give them the rest.
Anyone use .38 special for SD in revolver that are not snubs, most folks I know that carry only .38 special do so in snub revolvers.