Zundfolge
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Plus a lot more shots in the tube with the .44
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usp_fan
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When I read this, my first thought was 20ga. pump. It looks like a few others did too.
AntiqueCollector
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Depends. In my state (VT) it's legal to hunt without a license on your own property (something a lot of people here around me don't even know), but all limits/seasons/etc. still apply...in Alaska where I'm moving to a license is needed regardless of whether or not it's private property, so it varies...
redneckrepairs
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SM damm bud , is there any chance i can buy the " the old Rem Nylon 66." LOL .
If i understood right each pickup has its guns and you had the choice to pick the one you wanted . Kinda sounds like my operation . We have some cheap guns in the pickups ( and it is amazing how seldom guns are stolen by ex employees ) . but not every pickup is the same .. I belive i have an sks with a ranch provided 30 rounds in every truck now as well as a beat to hell 10-22 ruger or similar .
If i understood right each pickup has its guns and you had the choice to pick the one you wanted . Kinda sounds like my operation . We have some cheap guns in the pickups ( and it is amazing how seldom guns are stolen by ex employees ) . but not every pickup is the same .. I belive i have an sks with a ranch provided 30 rounds in every truck now as well as a beat to hell 10-22 ruger or similar .
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In Colorado , as most " western " states all bets are off when it comes to livestock . its not hunting its predator or nucince control
jakemccoy
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I would NOT want my Saiga 308 for a general ranch gun. The darn thing is too heavy, and I'm a strong 200 pound man. Based on specs I've read, a lot of other .308's are just as heavy. Although I do appreciate the heavy round of the .308, for a ranch gun, I'd do better with a gun that's at least 1.5 pounds lighter. Also, I would not be comfortable with popping off .308 rounds on only 10 acres.
I like the idea of the lever action Marlin 336, even though it would introduce another caliber into my gun collection.
In the mean time, I’d be happy with my 870 Wingmaster 12 ga fitted with its 4 round magazine and a 20” deer barrel. There are so many options with my 870 if I want to change up (bird, buck, slug, smooth barrel, rifled slug barrel, magazines). With a rifle, there are fewer options.
I like the idea of the lever action Marlin 336, even though it would introduce another caliber into my gun collection.
In the mean time, I’d be happy with my 870 Wingmaster 12 ga fitted with its 4 round magazine and a 20” deer barrel. There are so many options with my 870 if I want to change up (bird, buck, slug, smooth barrel, rifled slug barrel, magazines). With a rifle, there are fewer options.
Steve499
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Over/under rifle/shotgun. I have a .22/20 gauge with a stock sleeve which holds extra shotgun rounds. There can be birdshot, buckshot and slugs available for instant loading depending upon the immediate need. The .22 barrel is often very useful, too. If the .22 rimfire is too small, there have been models made with a larger caliber rifle barrel. My Savage .22/20 gauge is my pickup gun and one of my roughest, but most used firearms.
Klusterbuck
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JMHO,
20ga H&R..... brand new $100.00 Give or Take
Limbsaver Slip On Recoil Pad.... $25.00
Hard to beat for "chores".
Buck
20ga H&R..... brand new $100.00 Give or Take
Limbsaver Slip On Recoil Pad.... $25.00
Hard to beat for "chores".
Buck
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So you are confident that with your 870 and rifle sights you will put a round where it needs to be at 50 yards , ok i belive that with slugs , how about 300 yards . Remember this is shoot predators out of close proximity to horses / foals buckshot is a dream . your speaking to putting sight on predator and producing dead predator out to 300 or so . Its truly stupid sniping . If this firearm is used it will be used under conditions that would make us as gunowners go pale . Some kid will shoot " at " a predator somewhere between 50 and 300 yards in close proximity to a mare who is worth multi $K say somewhere between 2 and 200 $K . The stud fee alone is likely to be 1k and above ... IMHO the answer is to get a fella who knows how to shoot , or better yet a group and have them predator hunt on the horse ranch . ( note that this takes extra persons to settle mares for close firearms sounds ) . and be done with it . however if the gal wants a " ranch rifle " and does not want to learn about her rifle i stand behind my recommendations .
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Brad thanks for your clarification on the cost issues , as well as your input here . While you and i might not agree on everything ( donno havent searched it ) We do agree that posts should be honest , and to a degree mine was mistaken . Like the dems tho even tho my facts may have been in the wrong i stand my my principles LOL .
Acheron
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I would recommend a SKS (try to avoid a Yugo if possible-they are heavy) or a .30-30 lever gun.
Both can be had for well under $400 and will fit the bill for just about anything she may come across on a farm in Oregon, excepting maybe bear. 7.62x39mm and .30-30 may be a little underpowered for bear, but can be effective with good shot placement.
Both can be had for well under $400 and will fit the bill for just about anything she may come across on a farm in Oregon, excepting maybe bear. 7.62x39mm and .30-30 may be a little underpowered for bear, but can be effective with good shot placement.
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I give up lol . Yall have fun with your ranch shotty of any variety
TimM
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12 gauge pump - no question about it.
diesel83
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Ruger Mini-14
Ruger Mini-14 or Mini-30 was designed for this work. Is very reliable (Garand type action). 5 round box lends itself to being carried around. Look does not offend the neighbors. Semi-auto action allows quick dispatch of Coyotes and other predators. Range is sufficient for contending with the types of encounters you are likely to run into. Ammo is cheap enough to practice with.
Other than that, I'd have to say a nice Marlin in .30-30 Winchester will do the trick.
Ruger Mini-14 or Mini-30 was designed for this work. Is very reliable (Garand type action). 5 round box lends itself to being carried around. Look does not offend the neighbors. Semi-auto action allows quick dispatch of Coyotes and other predators. Range is sufficient for contending with the types of encounters you are likely to run into. Ammo is cheap enough to practice with.
Other than that, I'd have to say a nice Marlin in .30-30 Winchester will do the trick.
Ed Ames
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I'd go with the 20ga (or perhaps even .410) H&R or the same gun in .223 (rifle).
Main argument for the .223 (or .410) is that it'll have a lot less recoil, which may be important with a light gun. We're only talking 10 acres which is tiny... if a square it would be 660 feet/220 yards on a side. A .223 would be fine for any pest animal on the property but would perhaps cause neighbor safety issues. The 20ga would be more limited in range but you could still hit something (with slugs) anywhere on the property if standing in the center.
For what you've described a single shot would be no liability and the cheap price/light weight would be good.
Main argument for the .223 (or .410) is that it'll have a lot less recoil, which may be important with a light gun. We're only talking 10 acres which is tiny... if a square it would be 660 feet/220 yards on a side. A .223 would be fine for any pest animal on the property but would perhaps cause neighbor safety issues. The 20ga would be more limited in range but you could still hit something (with slugs) anywhere on the property if standing in the center.
For what you've described a single shot would be no liability and the cheap price/light weight would be good.
revjen45
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Big 5 regularly sells Mossberg 500s in different configurations at good prices. Watch their ads and when the one you want comes around check it out. The one with 2 barrels (20"Cyl & 26" Mod) would be a good choice.
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Ed Ames
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I'd go with the 20ga (or perhaps even .410) H&R or the same gun in .223 (rifle).
Main argument for the .223 (or .410) is that it'll have a lot less recoil, which may be important with a light gun. We're only talking 10 acres which is tiny... if a square it would be 660 feet/220 yards on a side. A .223 would be fine for any pest animal on the property but would perhaps cause neighbor safety issues. The 20ga would be more limited in range but you could still hit something (with slugs) anywhere on the property if standing in the center.
For what you've described a single shot would be no liability and the cheap price/light weight would be good.
Main argument for the .223 (or .410) is that it'll have a lot less recoil, which may be important with a light gun. We're only talking 10 acres which is tiny... if a square it would be 660 feet/220 yards on a side. A .223 would be fine for any pest animal on the property but would perhaps cause neighbor safety issues. The 20ga would be more limited in range but you could still hit something (with slugs) anywhere on the property if standing in the center.
For what you've described a single shot would be no liability and the cheap price/light weight would be good.
jakemccoy
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redneckrepairs wrote,
Keep in mind that the scenario is 10 acres. You are fully liable to a higher degree for what happens an inch past the 10 acres. As you probably know, slugs are not efficient for extremely long ranges. That’s good for my purposes on 10 acres!
A scoped, rifled, 12 ga 870 slug gun could reach out to 200 yards. On a ranch of 10 acres, that should be plenty far enough range for whatever you need to shoot. Really, I can't understand why you wouldn't be able to get within 100 yards for whatever you need to handle on 10 acres.
I don't have a problem with a rifle in this scenario. As I said, I like the idea of the Marlin 336. It's just that the substantial center fire rounds, like the .308, are too much for the scenario.
This type of thread is difficult because some people are so quick to find fault with a chosen selection when there isn't one clear answer. Meanwhile, I refuse to write for days explaining every nook and cranny of pros and cons. Figure it out. Many people have suggested a 12 gauge for this particular situation. I'm sure people have their reasons but refuse to try to explain to others who are close-minded and argumentative at the same time.
Keep in mind that the scenario is 10 acres. You are fully liable to a higher degree for what happens an inch past the 10 acres. As you probably know, slugs are not efficient for extremely long ranges. That’s good for my purposes on 10 acres!
A scoped, rifled, 12 ga 870 slug gun could reach out to 200 yards. On a ranch of 10 acres, that should be plenty far enough range for whatever you need to shoot. Really, I can't understand why you wouldn't be able to get within 100 yards for whatever you need to handle on 10 acres.
I don't have a problem with a rifle in this scenario. As I said, I like the idea of the Marlin 336. It's just that the substantial center fire rounds, like the .308, are too much for the scenario.
This type of thread is difficult because some people are so quick to find fault with a chosen selection when there isn't one clear answer. Meanwhile, I refuse to write for days explaining every nook and cranny of pros and cons. Figure it out. Many people have suggested a 12 gauge for this particular situation. I'm sure people have their reasons but refuse to try to explain to others who are close-minded and argumentative at the same time.
Walt622
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M1 Carbine
I’ve carried a .30 carbine in the rifle scabbard in my truck for years. Low recoil, easy to operate. Shame they cost so much anymore.
I’ve carried a .30 carbine in the rifle scabbard in my truck for years. Low recoil, easy to operate. Shame they cost so much anymore.
DFW1911
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+1. Given your criteria the 336 in 30-30 gets my vote as well.
Take care,
DFW1911
Furncliff
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Marlin 1894c. Cheap fun shooting w/ .38 to build confidence, 357 mag for work. Buffalo Bore makes some serious ammo for this caliber (2153 fps with a 158 grain... 2298 fps with 125 grain). I have a red dot on mine, my 115# daughter calls it her newest favorite gun.
ReadyontheRight
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sm - You and your friends gotta reconcile your "cheap" guns every once in a while.
Right now, I don't think the subject in question could go wrong with a Mosin Nagant M44, a sling and a boatload of ammo (CORROSIVE AMMO BTW - clean it up!) for around $150. Shoot it a little and if it's too much, move on to the other excellent suggestions that are not currently at an all-time, probably-never-to-be-seen-again LOW price.
I personally like the safety inherent in a bolt-action rifle. You can easily load & unload without having to put a round into battery. And if it's to be left in a barn/truck/shed, you can make it useless to a thief by simply hiding or locking up the small bolt.
If there's such an immediate need that the gun must be available right now, the gun should be on one's hip, not hangin' in the barn.
As mentioned above, a .22 rifle (Marlin model 60 ~$100 or less). Hard to imagine a rural property without a .22 rifle {shudder}.
PLUS either a 30-30 lever action (~$300), OR a Stevens bolt-action (~$250 do they come in .243?) AND/OR a used 20 gauge pump shotgun (~200) would work great.
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