Glock 31 fired out of battery--Kaboom - twice

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Blue Brick is referring to Chicago PD which had already had "approved" the P89, but when the P93 was introduced they wanted that instead, so instead of going through the approval process a second time they simply had Ruger mark a batch of P93s as "P89M" :)
At least that's what I heard on Ruger Forum :)
 
No sir I think maybe you should do your research, I asked if you were able to substantiate (prove) that Chigago PD carries P-89's, I guess you can't! As to low bids and chevy,dodge and ford I don't think so. Ruger's LE presence is small to non-existent because they were late to the party, and when they finally arrived they brought rather old technology methinks! At the very least the SR-9 is a decade after the fact and Rugers corporate stock has plummeted by as much as 45-50% because of there tardiness...
 
1. Lead in Glock barrels is bad because the bore becomes larger the closer to the muzzel it gets. The poly rifling can loose it's grip on the bullet towards the end and it allows the lead bullet to spin sometimes leaving a lead buildup....
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*** have you been smoking?

2. I have seen so many handguns go kaboom its not even funny. I have yet to see a kaboom that was the manufacturers fault....
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Your first comment leads me to place serious question on the validity of this one.

3. The 40 S&W out of a Glock is as safe as any other gun even with reloads with GOOD brass and not overpowered. I agree there 40 chambers are loose and could use a little more support, but they are far from unsafe. THIS IS A MYTH!
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The chambers aren't loose; they're unsupported.

4. The original poster never mentioned if he modified the gun or the specifics of his reloads. Without that info, this thread is meaningless.
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It was mentioned, you just weren't paying attention.

5. Shooting a gun after it has just exploded is Darwin Award material, and nothing anyone says about this issue to this individual will help him save himself
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The only thing you've said that makes any sense.
 
Did I mention that the U.S. Army bought 5,000 Ruger P-95 and 5,000 Sigs? How many Glock’s did they buy?
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138,000+ Glock 19s

What you need to realize, though, is none of those guns were purchased to arm US troops. They all went overseas to the forces we are training and equipping in Iraq and Afganistan.
 
If by chance you mean low bid is one of or the only reason Bill sr. couldent develop a LE following think again. Ruger's retail for a 1/3 less than Glocks, or S&W's and even approaching half that of Sig's. In my neck of the woods LEO's can get a brand new P-89 for just over $300,00, there's a lot more than price at issue...........
 
Why Blue Brick, no need for testiness now. Ruger's are just fine firearms and I believe they make some of the best revolvers in the game, regardless there p-series pistols have never been accepted by a large share of LEA because there LEO's have never warmed up to them...........
 
By the way where do they get the $300 Ruger? From my understanding LEO are issued/loaned a firearm for free (OSHA regulations). Glock gives LEA a bulk discount, Ruger doesn’t.
 
I'm trying to figure out your MO here Denali, but best I can tell you seem to really enjoy taunting people, making unsubstantiated claims, and then refuting all evidence or arguments that aren't to your liking. That's not really what the High Road is about. I told you many posts ago a couple PDs that use or have used Rugers and Blue Brick has mentioned them as well. Unless you're some sort of authority on this topic, I don't know where you stand to claim all these points are false. Want to post some sources?
 
Well that's that you have'nt substantiated a thing you've said, but I'll give you Chicago PD as a previous Ruger dept. not a current one. Your question should be to yourself as to why LE consistently rejects the Ruger product. I think you'll find it has nothing to do with price or warranty's....Good luck!
 
Who cares what LEA carry? All the cops and military personel that I know carry w/e they freaking want to.

Also just because the gun has markings on it that point towards a certian LEA does not mean that they actually use the gun. Sig made the 226 Blackwater, Blackwater sells things with H&K logo's on it and from what I've heard from people that actually work for Blackwater, they all use Glocks.
 
Just who do you think you are Mr.Eldon519 you pop in here and trash glocks and there owners without the least bit of data to support you, then when we reply to your claims you vanish and now here you are again, impying what I"M ALL ABOUT................PUUULEASE!!!!!!:what:
 
You asked me a while ago to mention a police department that used the Ruger. I did, and I provided my article, the author, and the source of the quote. What's insubstantiated about that? You say I'm wrong, but you haven't actually shown anything that says that. And if by supporting data, you mean guessing about statistics and making up a case about the occurance of kBs, I can do that. Just give me a second to go to immagination land where you drummed up your figures.

I'm also not talking trash about Glocks, nor have I said a thing about their owners. Don't be reactionary just because you've been called out for what you're doing. I like Glocks well enough, just not for me. What it comes down to though is Glock owners are the exact same about their guns kB-ing as 1911 owners are about their guns not working straight out of the box. There are always a million excuses, but it's never the fault of the gun or the manufacturer. Regardless, firing out of battery is a very serious design flaw.
 
Making up statistics? Immagination land? I think not. Glock's were manufactured in IF YOU MAKE IT THEY WILL COME LAND. The statistics I've tossed about while imaginary are rooted in FACT. Ruger pistols why I know very little of them except that you and others have mentioned them as being SUPERIOR to such an extent that they do not feel obliged to warranty them for life to various LEA's, appear to me at least to have missed the LE train and as such I've asked a fair question, if there so good WHERE are THEY....I personally don't have to justify your posistion for you or do your reasearch....:neener:
 
It's always amusing to see Glock fans go Able Suger when someone reports a Kaboom.

I would suspect that the number of KBs is low, and as much as I dislike them, I'm sure they do the job they are designed for far more often than not.

That having been said, unsupported chambers can't be a good thing. For whatever reason, Glocks DO HAVE the largest Kaboom reputation of any major firearm manufacturer I know.

That among other things is enough to keep me away from Glocks.
 
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