Glock-one in chamber or not?

DO YOU KEEP A LIVE ROUND IN YOUR GLOCK FOR REGULAR CARRY?

  • ALWAYS KEEP A LIVE ROUND LOADED

    Votes: 304 83.3%
  • NEVER KEEP A LIVE ROUND LOADED

    Votes: 39 10.7%
  • Only Keep A Live Round when at home

    Votes: 3 0.8%
  • Only Keep A live round when away from home

    Votes: 19 5.2%

  • Total voters
    365
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I don't own a glock and never will. If I did I would have the ny trigger installed and it would only have a round chambered while in a secure holster. Glocks are an accident waiting to happen. There have probably been more a/d with glocks than any other weapon.
 
That is why I carry a Glock 22 with a couple of extra magazines and train in stress-proof gun handling drills, and shooting while exploding off the X.
Spoken like a true "Warrior"....Like, what else should PD trainer say? Many of us train this way, but has nothing to do with this discussion.
Let's take Clint Smith for a moment, since we are all name-dropping...Regardless of his carry & ammo requirements, he stresses that "speed" isn't the prime factor; "No stop-watches in a Gun Fight:eek:"....
Anyway, like it's been mentioned: to each their own....My thoughts entering into the fray were not against the Glock since I view it no differently than carrying any DAO firearm, yes one in the chamber...But, on ultimate chamber decisions....:)
BTW, this thought of the totally surprised "ambush" and the crazed Moros with their machetes attacking our limbs are alive & well. My previous posts are well-stated in this regard....Guess what? The evidence/data does not support it in the civilian world, wars excluded....:)
 
My question is, if it were a different handgun, would you keep one in the chamber or no? Does this "I cock it when I need it" mentality carry over to all pistols, or is this a comfort things specific to Glocks?
 
How do you know when you need it. My experiance with half a dozen situations over almost 4 decades of carrying a handgun, is that I didn't see what was happening until the last second, or not at all. The logic of waiting to see a threat is rediculous unless the threat is about to happen to someone else. Like in the movies, when the guy sees the perp in the store survellience mirror about to pounce on the clerk. That isn't the way it happens, there is no warning, and usually the guy is already holding his weapon, or pointing it in your general direction. At that point you still have one or two seconds, to evaluate and decide if you are going to draw and fire, or leave your fate up to a higher power. You sure as hell don't have time to add another thing to the list of decisions you are going to make, which may change your life forever. I get the feeling that many folks carry guns because they are allowed by thier state, and get a false sense of security from doing so. You better be able to make the correct decision if the time ever comes, or you may regret it or not even have time to regret it, just my opinion, forget data, when the crap hits the fan, and a guy puts a gun to your car window at night, it's dark, you can't see worth a dam, and the other guy is coming around to open your door, what do you do, think about it, that's the way it happens, you don't see it coming.
 
I don't own a glock and never will. If I did I would have the ny trigger installed and it would only have a round chambered while in a secure holster. Glocks are an accident waiting to happen. There have probably been more a/d with glocks than any other weapon.

You're right you don't need a Glock you don't need any gun!! What you need is proper training, period. I get so tired of the Glock bashers, I ahve said as well as others with proper gun handling it impossible for a Glock to fire.
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Making a statement about having a heavier trigger is not a bash in my opinion.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_11_50/ai_n6209982

It is common knowledge that most DA have a pretty good trigger pull 8 lbs or more is generally considered correct, so if you have a Glock with a 3.5 pound pull and are shooting target that is one thing but to have the same as a carry gun it is light and so is 5 pounds.

The above link explains some struff about trigger pull but the pull of the trigger is based on what it takes a mechanical device which tests weight to pull, not the human brain with a finger to gage it right or wrong.

Squeezing the trigger is what they recommend and what you learn, to squeeze it crisply is the best way to go.
 
I carry my G17 either in an OWB leather holster, or in a shoulder rig. Always a round in the chamber. At night I keep it loaded in the shoulder rig hanging off my the bathroom door in my bedroom. This way I have to be somewhat alert and up and out of bed to find it and get it out of the holster. FWIW, just me and my brother in our apartment. No kids to get their hands on it.

No matter if I am at home or out and about the weapon is loaded. All the time. You never know when you are entering a hostile situation. No matter how many times you have run to the corner store and no matter how comfortable with it, there is always the possibility of someone wanting to hurt you. No offense to the anyone, I understand what you mean. IMHO, every situation can turn hostile.
 
Maurice, You are in open carry country and the holsters that are available are good and many wear them. In CCW carry I believe the way I do it is best. If I was in your situation, I'd do the same thing.
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The amount of posting about chambered or not is really interesting how the folks want you to carry around a pistol or revolver. In the service it is not loaded all the time and they are at war. LOL
 
Sorry but I dont agree with the majority. I only keep live round when going out. Never keep live in chamber. It can cause accidents. I live in worlds most dangerous place (Pakistan Tribal Areas) and even I dont keep one in. Not even my Ak is loaded or any other weapon. With guards they are ordered to but when on duty.
 
How so Firepower, unless you pull the trigger it really shouldn't go off, and what if there was a threat within, what then, maybe the military is different, because you have safe zones, and you feel realy safe, although I never did in the late 60's, but different topic.Let me ask you this, do the Pakistani's feel the same way. very civil goings on , maybe because you guys can see something coming from 20 miles away. There are places I go on a daily basis, where the people aren't as civil, but that's just me. No offense
 
Chambered round

When you have chambered round you better be sure that threat is high. Otherwise you are just doing so cause you want to be cool or something. In the US I can only imagine a few places where one is justified in having live round. Or unless, I repeat, you are a body guard.
 
larry24, I voted to have a live round in the chamber because that is how I carry.

I'm not going to acost how you chose to carry, but I will say this. I had the same concerns when I got my XD. It's the first plastic pistol I have owned and it also doesn't have a manual safety. I was concerned about and AD just like you.

What I did was carry the gun around without one in the chamber, but I did have the weapon cocked. This would tell me if the gun was fired on an empty chamber. I did much more than I would usually do to test this. Dropping it, throwing it in the glove box, jumping around wiggling around, jogging, you name it.

It never fired.

You just need to do something like this to get your trust up in your firearm. Nothing wrong with that. But you'll see that it's safe in time.
 
Carry as you please. You want to carry with a round in chamber, mag topped off? Fine and dandy. Think that's 'Modern Technique'. Want to carry with no round in the chamber, full mag? IIRC, this was the way the 1911 was originally carried, for many years. Fairbairn's folk were instructed to pin down all their safeties and simply rack the slide before firing. This is probably the safest technique, with the least risk of AD/ND of any method, applicable for any repeating handgun. Carrying with one in the chamber/under the hammer is not a good idea for some very old or poorly made handguns. Most modern handguns are drop-safe. Glock is especially so. It's safe to carry as long as you remember to be wary of the trigger - especially when reholstering.

Still, carry as you please. There's no sense in claiming a poster has no business with a gun because they don't like the idea of carrying with a loaded chamber. It was perfectly legitimate years ago, and is perfectly usable today. Current dogma is to always carry (a customized 1911) in a strong-side belt holster with a loaded chamber with a fully loaded magazine, with enough spares to handle the Nakatomi Building. Doesn't mean that it's the only way to carry.
 
Carry as you please. You want to carry with a round in chamber, mag topped off? Fine and dandy. Think that's 'Modern Technique'. Want to carry with no round in the chamber, full mag? IIRC, this was the way the 1911 was originally carried, for many years. Fairbairn's folk were instructed to pin down all their safeties and simply rack the slide before firing. This is probably the safest technique, with the least risk of AD/ND of any method, applicable for any repeating handgun. Carrying with one in the chamber/under the hammer is not a good idea for some very old or poorly made handguns. Most modern handguns are drop-safe. Glock is especially so. It's safe to carry as long as you remember to be wary of the trigger - especially when reholstering.

Still, carry as you please. There's no sense in claiming a poster has no business with a gun because they don't like the idea of carrying with a loaded chamber. It was perfectly legitimate years ago, and is perfectly usable today. Current dogma is to always carry (a customized 1911) in a strong-side belt holster with a loaded chamber with a fully loaded magazine, with enough spares to handle the Nakatomi Building. Doesn't mean that it's the only way to carry.



If we do this then we would not have anything to argue about.. :neener:
 
If we do this then we would not have anything to argue about..
Nah. We can still argue the eternal 9mm vs .45. Or 7.62x39 vs 5.56x45, Coke vs Pepsi, Elizabeth Taylor vs Ava Gardner, Frank Sinatra vs Bing Crosby...
 
For those of you who are not comfortable carrying a chambered Glock or similar firearm, how do you feel about carrying a chambered DA/SA pistol that has a 12 pound trigger for the first round?
 
12 pounds and very Long is far different then 5 1/2 pounds & very Short!

How would you feel about carrying a 5 1/2 pound Series-80 1911, cocked with the thumb safety off?

That's a much better comparison then any DA revolver.

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I didn't mean a DA revolver. I meant something like a Walther that has an 11-12 lb trigger if you don't have the gun cocked. After the first shot it is around 5 lbs - like the Glock
 
I see!
I misunderstood your question.

I feel perfectly safe stuffing a loaded SIG or S&W or PPK auto in my pants and going about my business. I can hold the hammer down with my thumb while doing the stuffing with my thumb.

I wouldn't stuff a loaded Glock down my pants on a bet!

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