Glock pros and cons.

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Glock is my choice for a carry pistol. No bells or whistles. Just point and shoot. Mine goes off every time. Cleaning is a snap; the pistol can be field stripped in a few seconds. The finish is durable and the after-market options are abundant and relatively cheap. The sights are mediocre, so I upgraded to Trijicons.

I find no problem with having to pull the trigger before disassembly. If you can't remember to clear the chamber, then you should not be handling the weapon in the first place.
 
XD's have to have the trigger pulled before it can be disassembled..

never met Gaston Glock so I cant comment on his arrogance
 
Ya gotta pull the trigger when diassembling Kahrs also. Like NOBAN and the Glock & Kahr owner's manuals state. Check to see if the chamber is empty before disassembly. Any one who doesn't do that when field stripping any firearm is a damn fool and doesn't deserve, or shouldn't be allowed, to own a firearm. It doesn't bother me to pull the trigger on my Glocks and Kahrs to release the striker. Checking the chamber is just good common sense.:banghead:
 
Most Cons can be easily fixed i.e. night sights and lighter trigger springs for target shooting or heavier for CCW/Duty use. If people can dryfire a weapon, they can field strip a Glock. I like being my own Glocksmith and buying affordable after market parts.




Don
 
Cant think of any pros

Watched couple new shooters end up with what i call glock thumb/hand when shooting mini glocks and slides opened them up better than a knife.

They just dont have a soul and there just plain ugly

The funny grip angle i dont like

And i dont buy into the I created the perfect pistol (copyed some of it from HK so how is that created) attuide of Gaston glock

If it was perfect would it go kaboom or have all these factory upgrades(READ RECALLS) since its perfect why would it need these?
 
tc300mag1:
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"Watched couple new shooters end up with what i call glock thumb/hand when shooting mini glocks and slides opened them up better than a knife."
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Hi tc300mag1,

What is "glock thumb/hand"? Where is the thumb placed when it gets opened up? Does this happen to the shooting hand or the support hand?

Thanks,
Rich
 
I wasnt paying a lot of attn to there grip when it happened 2 people the other day i think it was a high had grip to high so there fault and slide just opened them up these were the real mini glocks dont knwo the #s

The guy with the thumb got it on shooting hand no clue how unless he just had funky grip but it was the thumb on his dominate had he layed open think again the gun was just to small for his hand i have large hands and there too small for me and his hands looked bigger than mine.. Also this was a new pistol as he told me as much when he told salesman he wanted to carry it they recommened the smallest glock out there

Also one was support hand other was strong hand

\I dont know if i could shoot one with out getting my hand my 1911 like to bite me but i dont think i will try after that
 
I currently own a Glock 17 and a Glock 30, and I have owned the 22, 26, and 27 as well. I LOVE my Glocks and I wish I didn't have to sell those latter three. My favorite is definitely the Glock 30, however. I'd buy a Glock 21 if I didn't already own a 1911. :D

I have some small gripes, but then I have small gripes about every pistol I own. I need an excuse to keep buying and selling them, after all. Things I don't like about Glocks are:

1. Magazines. Clinton mags and FML (drop-free) sometimes refuse to be seated properly! One of the magazines for my G30 and one of my pre-bans for my former G22 absolutely will not seat in the well when loaded to full capacity. They have been dedicated to spares as they work perfectly fine as reloads. It's impossible for me to forget which is which as I always top off the magazine before I carry. For my G17 I have simply stuck with NFML pre-bans which work fine in all respects. The fact that they don't always drop free has never been a problem for me personally.

2. Factory sights. I have no problem aiming with the U-bar system but 3-dot Trijicons are so much better.
 
tc300mag1:
" I wasnt paying a lot of attn to there grip when it happened 2 people the other day..."

Then how can you conclude in your first post it was the fault of the Glock?

I also have big hands. Glocks are one of the least likely semi-autos to bite the shooters shooting hand, IMHO. The only time I've seen a shooter hurt their thumb with a Glock was when they put their "off hand" thumb over their shooting hand, behind the slide the way some people grip a revolver. This is common problem with new shooters and semi-autos. Not just Glocks.

I've had problems with hammer bite from Government/Gold Cup model Colt 1911s. I've had the back of my hand, near the web between my thumb and first finger, scraped by my SIG P232. I've never been bitten or scraped by a Glock, of any size.

The grip on a sub-compact Glock is the same as a standard sized G17 except it doesn't extend down as far. Rather than conclude that the sub-compact Glock was too small for his hand, it sounds like the correct conclusion would be the new shooter didn't have enough training in shooting semi-autos.

I have a pile of Glocks including several sub-compacts. Even with my large hands I have no problem shooting sub-compact Glocks.

Rich
 
clbj
"con: Amazingly expensive hi-cap mags compared to Berettas, CZs, or BHPs."


Well, that's difficult for people who want hi-cap Glock mags and don't have them. But, it shows how popular they are.

Glock put a lot of magazine capacity in a modest sized, highly reliable package. The standard pre ban mag for the compact Glock 19 is 15 rounds. The pre ban Glock 20 mags give you 15 round of the hard hitting 10mm. After the '94 ban Glock showed what a smart and flexable company it is by coming out with its amazingly popular sub-compact line. A small .45ACP with a standard 10 round mag. The even smaller G26 with 10 round mags. The G27 is one of the most popular BUGs.

I also like 1911s. I'm surprised so many 1911 owners are so bitter when they talk about Glocks. You would think Gaston personally insulted their mothers.

Rich
 
I like glocks. I like them a lot. They are great reliable guns. Nonetheless, great guns can still have cons. One of the glocks cons, thanks to their popularity and stupid legislation is expensive mags.
 
Let me start this response by stating that Glocks are well made firearms, relatively cheap and reasonably accurate. They make excellent duty weapons for a department that wants a simple to learn manual of arms and a short learning time. For a non-firearms knowledgeable trainee, the Glock is probably the easiest firearm to learn (DA revolvers evcepted)

That having been said, I don't carry a Glock. My experience with them is limited to the model 23 I purchased years ago when I decided to join the rush to become a "Glockster". First thing I noticed, no external safety, a negative for me as I sometimes carry Mexican style. 3.5 lb. trigger + no manual safety+ Mexican carry= possible loss of relatively important piece of anatomy. Conclusion, Glocks need holsters. Next I noticed that Glock grip angle is wrong for me. Rapid target acquisition from the holster was hindered by the tendency of the Glock to point high. Practice resulted in being able to compensate for the high point, but at the cost of time required to execute the shot. Before I get blasted let me say, if the Glock fits you, great, enjoy. Third and biggest gripe, aside from what has ben said as to the cheap plastic sights is that being a reloader, I can't see the value in owning a gun that will not safely shoot my lead reloads without frequent cleanings to prevent lead buildup and possible KB.

Negatives for me outweigh the positives. I still own the same model 23 complete with 3 hi-cap mags and on occasion I still shoot it in hopes that the faults I found would have magically disapeared. So far, no luck. Chances are the Glock will live out its remaining days in my safe with others that didn't make the cut.

For those who live and breathe Glocks, great, enjoy.

What do I carry? Either a DA Smith revolver or a Para LDA 45, sometimes sans holster sometimes with. Just my preference.

JPM
 
And I must disagree.

The last time I cleaned a gluck (rhymes with "yuck") the procedure required you to drop the mag, clear the chamber and PULL THE TRIGGER before removing the slide. So clearly, gluck requires a trigger-pull when you do not want to fire. I believe this is the root of 99% of gluck NDs.

So then you are making excuses for extremely poor gun handling.
 
As far as the safety goes, there is a gunsmith here that can add a saftey lever to your glock. This prcedure is Glock approved and does not affect the warranty. My friend had one put on his Glock and it looks factory. The lever comes out alittle behind the slide release and is very easy to manipulate with the thumb.
It clicks into position very nice, as soon as I have some extra $$ I will have it done to my G20.
 
I love my G19. First gun I ever bought, and I didn't know at the time that it was supposed to have a "bad" trigger. Shot it for about a year before picking up my second piece (HK USP). Today, I've got better triggers on other pistols, but the Glock trigger still is very comfortable for me. It is what it is, dunno what all the hullaballoo is about.

One Con: Glocks endure more internet bashing than prolly all other firearms combined. This sometimes makes Glock owners defensive, and they often feel a need to justify their purchases. Not really an inherent defect of the gun, just public perception of it. Needless, IMHO.
 
I love my Glocks but the really poorly thought out factory sights take the inexpensiveness out of the equation. You can get a new Glock for 450-550, dependig where you buy. Once you replace the sights, usually with night sights & installation, you're talking about adding about 100.00 to the gun. This puts it in the $550-650 range and really isn't that cheap, compared to the competition.
 
My biggest gripe about the Glock is that they charge as much as they do for a gun that should be cheaper than any steel framed gun. Gaston mentioned in an article a while back that it cost $75 to make the gun. Coming from a manufacturing standpoint, I can believe it. They are great guns not worth the money they are asking for it. The plastic sights just show how cheap the company is. When I found out how cheap the police departments were getting them a few years ago, it really ticked me off. The gun is good, the sights suck, the early mags suck, the old box sucks, and the Glock perfection line sucks. All that being said, if they were $300 with real sights, I'd own more than just one.
 
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