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George P said:
They are seriously considering making kitchen knives mandated to have round, dull points to lessen danger. I wouldn't doubt that soon, if you're a chef, you'll need to form of permission to carry your knives to your work.

Have friends who live outside of London when they're not here in the US. The boxcutter is the main choice of street thugs and purse snatchers. He mentioned it was very prevalent among certain "unnamed" groups and they would run past you and slice the purse strap or just you across your back.
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I don't doubt it. London, other cities and towns are definitely a lot different from when I was last over there in '95. Quite a few years ago West Indian gangs started a practice called steaming; a group would storm a store with machetes and clubs etc, grab their booty and run out.
 
From what my friends have said, the acts are the same, even if the ethnic groups have changed. I wonder if we'll see more law-abiding citizens there start to carry/use a shillelagh. A blackthorn one is a formidable defense weapon against a knife
 
My thoughts are that generation "wuss" has a head start in leadership in merry old England. I am scheduled to go there sometime this year for work. Guess I better purchase a pocket safety knife. Whatever that is.
 
dh1633pm said:
My thoughts are that generation "wuss" has a head start in leadership in merry old England. I am scheduled to go there sometime this year for work. Guess I better purchase a pocket safety knife. Whatever that is.
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Get a Swiss Army knife. Just make sure the blade is less than 3" long and that it doesn't lock.
 
If you want something specifically for self defense you are better off with a staff or a cane.
But yes, when you buy it you don't advertise it as being for self defense.
 
I went to Australia and New Zealand last year and neither Commonwealth Country had any issues with my knife. Its a locking folder under three inches. I will leave it home if I head to England. Don't want to be "that guy" who runs afoul of the law. Same knife has also traveled to Germany, Canada, Turkey, and even France with no issues.
 
With the people who want to ban "weapons" each failed law becomes the precedent for the next law promising public safety and each new law robs the people of their freedom and liberty more and more, but always has the opposite effect of the stated goal. The public become less safe, and that become the rallying point for yet another law that promises to make people safe - by taking away their freedom.

People are already robbed quite often by people who have nothing more than a screwdriver.

When a thug has a screwdriver pointed at your belly, It takes a person about 1/10th of a second to figure out "that thing could go right through me."
 
I carry a knife every day. a small queen steel barlow.hell queen steel may be made in England idk!

its a fine knife,stainless and keeps a edge good.

all the guys at work have pocket knives but when they need a sharp one they come to me.

every morning at work I give it a few licks on a diamond rod while waiting for work to start.kinda freeks out the new guys tho.

I use this knife every day. I would be lost without it.

ive used it for everything from opening packages to field dressing deer..

its a tiny little knife as far as knives go. but as sharp as it stays I would not have a problem using it to defend myself.
 
Flechette said:
I am at a loss. How does carrying a knife make you become the victim of a crime?
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You probably just want to get your outrage panties in a bunch rather than an actual answer, but just in case anyone else is interested - carrying a knife and hanging around in gangs of knife-carrying outlaws tends to get people in situations where they get stabbed, or stab other people, or both. Hence the rather ham-handed government website ineffectually trying to discourage kids from carrying knives when hanging with their homies. The US equivalent would probably be #illegallycarriedhandgunsfree or something, which would no doubt provoke howls of outrage about how the second amendment guarantees every teenager the right to carry a stolen gat along with their gang colors and bag of crack.

It has little or no relevance to normal people due to the magic words in the law making it illegal to "carry a knife in public without good reason" which generally tends to mean 'being a boring law-abiding citizen". When I lived in London I carried a leatherman wave everywhere with me but it was never an issue. Even that one time I drunkenly tried to take it through a metal detector at a border control :confused: the nice man gave me a choice between having it confiscated or paying to have it sent ahead to my destination. Specifically banned items like gravity knives, switchblades, disguised blades etc are a different matter, just as in some US jurisdictions.

Even for non-normal street thugs expecting regular hassles from the popo, a non-locking folder of 3" or less is completely legal and fine for anyone to carry anywhere even without "good reason", its just illegal to threaten or attack people with it. So it's not like brits have to chew cartons open or cut string with their toenails.
 
Long long ago and in a land far far away, back when REAL police carried a blackjack as backup for their billy club and rumbles were not just Goats and Judges, being adequately armed included a bicycle chain or a Louisville Slugger or the handle from a kitchen spoon or if you were well off a roll of quarters. I knew one guy who even had two rolls of quarters and no one messed with him.
 
I’m thinking the bike wheel could be used as a shield????

Crazy!

I tore my meniscus and have been hobbling around on a cane. I find it surprisingly reassuring when I board a plane carrying it.
 
bannockburn said:
This is so mind boggling I don't even know where to begin. I have had a pocket knife ever since I was in the Cub Scouts (still have it too!), and some how, after all these years, I never felt I was "risking everything" by carry a knife with me.

I truly feel sorry for the British people having to live with this nanny state doctrine foisted on them by spineless, feeble minded politicians and their likewise namby-pamby, social engineering counterparts. I'm certain the people will eventually be restricted to using plastic spoons as their only eating utensils and forced to wear mittens all of the time so they don't poke someone's eyes out. And safety scissors will be the order of the day, provided of course you have the proper permits to have paper and it's safely kept under lock and key.

Rule Britannia! Not likely...
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You don't need sharp utensils to eat Soylent Green.....
 
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