hAkron
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I have a P7 Saxony police trade in that I bought in December. It's cool as heck.
H&K ownership poll.
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I have two P7s...a PSP and a M8
I used to have a P9S...really wanted the P9S Competition...and would really like to have a HK45
I used to have a P9S...really wanted the P9S Competition...and would really like to have a HK45
I have a P2000 9mm that's a retired carry gun and doesn't see the light of day much anymore. In the past I'd had a 9mm USP, a P7, and a .45 USPc. I really liked the paddle-style mag releases on the plastic pistols. The P7 was in a class all it's own; sold it as a poor college student. While it went to a good home, I do occasionally miss it.
I have no problem with the company, but occasionally the elitism of some of their consumers is off-putting.
I have no problem with the company, but occasionally the elitism of some of their consumers is off-putting.
MachIVshooter
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Where's the option for "had one, sold it, not buying another"?
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Comment on the USP 45. Extremely well built in all aspects. 12 round capacity is a plus with the decocking system.
There is no option for not buying because this is not opinion poll. It is to see H&K ownership, rather. Opinion polls generally end up nasty.
They are more expensive then other polymers, but I dont mind paying extra for something I like. I have many other brands as well, but I generally prefer H&K.
There is no option for not buying because this is not opinion poll. It is to see H&K ownership, rather. Opinion polls generally end up nasty.
They are more expensive then other polymers, but I dont mind paying extra for something I like. I have many other brands as well, but I generally prefer H&K.
sigarms228
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HKs are nice guns and I have tried quite a few but never bought one because I like my SIGs and Walther better.
Comedian
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My USPc was the first pistol I bought and I'm still carrying it. It's an excellent pistol and I'd like to get a P30L one day but it's pretty far down the list of future purchases.
TimboKhan
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Too pricy for me, though I very much would like a P7 one day.
Nushif
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I have a VP70Z.
Really all it is is a range toy. 8) But it is good clean fun.
Really all it is is a range toy. 8) But it is good clean fun.
I had …
a P7 (PSP) that I regret selling. I hope to find another someday.
a P30 that was great except for the trigger. I sold it (without regrets) when I got a SIG P228.
I have …
a USP Expert I find extraordinary. I sold my SIG P210 after getting the ‘Expert’ because I got the same precision as the P210 in a more modern, high-capacity package.
a MP5 that is a lot of fun.
a P7 (PSP) that I regret selling. I hope to find another someday.
a P30 that was great except for the trigger. I sold it (without regrets) when I got a SIG P228.
I have …
a USP Expert I find extraordinary. I sold my SIG P210 after getting the ‘Expert’ because I got the same precision as the P210 in a more modern, high-capacity package.
a MP5 that is a lot of fun.
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wally
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Not my experience, although I agree with all the comments that with the exception of the P7, that they are large and blocky in the grips for their caliber, and HK gouges on the mags.
I found a smoking deal on a used USP 9, it was the older mode DAO model and I found their customer service very helpful in getting me the parts I needed to convert it to the DAK. The prices on the parts didn't seem out of line for other replacement trigger parts I see when browsing Brownells site.
I bought an HK P7M8 in 1985 and I have stuck with it. At the time I think it was the smallest 9mm out there from a major manufacturer. It is small enough that I can carry it concealed but it's fixed poly barrel and overall high quality made it a very accurate pistol so I'm not sacrificing anything for that compactness.
I also thought it was the best answer ever for the safety debate. I didn't worry about having to remember to take the manual safety off, on the other hand I didn't have to worry about it being cocked on a live round. The trigger is great - I never had to deal with DA/SA, crummy striker fired trigger feel or DOA trigger issues.
As much as I like to fire other pistols, I don't train with them. I "train" only with my HK P7M8.
I've loved this pistol from the very start. I wish now that I had purchased 6 of them, one to carry, one to keep by my bed, one to keep in my car, one to take to the range, one to just have in the safe so I could say to myself "HK P7M8 NIB NEVER fired - worth $2975 he he he he"
and one to put under glass so I could gaze fondly at it's beauty from time to time.
BTW.. I read a lot of talk about "break in periods" for pistols. I have never had a failure of any kind with this pistol period - EVER. I've never put reloads through it, since 1985 I've used almost every major brand of ammo from 115 to 147gr and never had a problem. NEVER a single problem.
I also thought it was the best answer ever for the safety debate. I didn't worry about having to remember to take the manual safety off, on the other hand I didn't have to worry about it being cocked on a live round. The trigger is great - I never had to deal with DA/SA, crummy striker fired trigger feel or DOA trigger issues.
As much as I like to fire other pistols, I don't train with them. I "train" only with my HK P7M8.
I've loved this pistol from the very start. I wish now that I had purchased 6 of them, one to carry, one to keep by my bed, one to keep in my car, one to take to the range, one to just have in the safe so I could say to myself "HK P7M8 NIB NEVER fired - worth $2975 he he he he"
and one to put under glass so I could gaze fondly at it's beauty from time to time.BTW.. I read a lot of talk about "break in periods" for pistols. I have never had a failure of any kind with this pistol period - EVER. I've never put reloads through it, since 1985 I've used almost every major brand of ammo from 115 to 147gr and never had a problem. NEVER a single problem.
Esoxchaser
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Used to have some HK's. They were fine guns, but I figured out when they never got used that I really don't like poly guns, no matter who makes them.
I've owned a P7M8 since 2001 and you have to shoot it to believe its accuracy, reliability, pointability and shooting comfort. An incredibly well-made handgun that does need some getting used to its manual of arms characteristics (i.e., the striker cocking system) as it differs from any other autoloader I've ever fired.
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Kiln said:
I don't think the upper post above is out of line...it is a person's judgement...but it rather depends on the value you place on the lower post above.C0untZer0 said:
I'll mention that the P7 magazines are unbelievably strong and well made...especially their single stack original and M8 mags...as I've never heard of one failing or it's lips spreading/cracking. If you look at them, they look like you could run over them with a truck...but they are $50
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Like many others, I love the P7. Slim, flat, compact, accurate, and reliable. The only downside to the P7 is that I always want just one more.
Inebriated
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Nope. Never wanted one, especially at the price they want.
Mosbyranger
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I have a USP .45 and P2000 9mm. I like both of them. The decocking mechanism is well thought out. The trigger on the P2000 is one of the best I have ever used. I have no issues with H&K, I wish I could afford more.
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Have tried several HKs from the USP and P2000 models. Loved every single time I pulled the trigger. Don't own any as of yet because of the price tag and have a hard time picking what I want to start with. Strong leaning towards HK USP compact V1 in any of the calibers.
I've never had a problem out of my XDM 9mm with over 3,000 rounds through it so far either. Same goes for my CZ75B with a similar round count. My point is that you don't have to pay $1000+ for a gun that works. If you really like them than by all means enjoy yourself but for me, the price difference is too much when there are many other high quality arms available that are more fairly priced.
We all have different levels of expected performance and reliability...I would expect any serviceable gun to be reliable for 3000 rounds. 10k or 25k would be a bit more telling; I've handled H&Ks that were shot by a factory shooter which had in excess of 65k rounds through it and was still acceptably accurate.
As to the magazines, try driving over yours with a car tire and see how well it works...P7 mags will continue to function after that. This wasn't a test, it was a co-worker who accidentally ejected his mag in a roadway and a passing car ran over it. He put it back in the gun and it test fired fine.
Please don't take that to mean that I don't think there are great values in modern polymer (my go-to gun is a S&W M&P9) or alloy framed DA/SA offerings (I have an on-going love affair with a SIG 220 and 226). I just think that the current HK line (P30/HK45) is an outstanding design for a Service gun
As to the magazines, try driving over yours with a car tire and see how well it works...P7 mags will continue to function after that. This wasn't a test, it was a co-worker who accidentally ejected his mag in a roadway and a passing car ran over it. He put it back in the gun and it test fired fine.
Please don't take that to mean that I don't think there are great values in modern polymer (my go-to gun is a S&W M&P9) or alloy framed DA/SA offerings (I have an on-going love affair with a SIG 220 and 226). I just think that the current HK line (P30/HK45) is an outstanding design for a Service gun
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