Have you had an ND

Have you had a ND?

  • Yes, I have had an ND

    Votes: 86 39.4%

  • Nope, I haven't had an ND

    Votes: 132 60.6%
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Yep! Complete stupidity on my part. Showing-off indoors to a friend how the mag-safety on my new Ruger P345 worked. Shot dead-center through the Cherrywood bed post and into the wall. First ND in almost 40 years of dedicated gun handling. My ears hurt almost as much as my pride. Never felt so foolish. GREAT lesson I hope I NEVER forget!

The two loudest sounds in the world are; a BOOM when you expect a click, and a CLICK when you expect a boom.
 
Yup but I was 12 --I've learned a little since then. It was hammer down on a .22 Browning Lever gun with one in the chamber, missed my best friends foot by half an inch. That'll teach you!
 
~1972 I was demonstrating to a friend how I could field strip a Browning Hi-Power with my eyes closed. I did it quickly and with my eyes still closed I reassembled it, pointed it toward the ceiling and said, "See!", pulled the trigger and "Boom!", put a round through his apartment ceiling. Fortunately we were on the top floor. He was moving out the next day and we puttied the hole with Bisquick dough. Alcohol was involved. It wasn't my proudest moment. Haven't had a drop since September 19th, 1978.
 
Yes. Negligently, hurriedly clearing a semi-auto.

Racked it to clear the chamber BEFORE removing the mag.

Did not ask myself why the slide did not lock open.

It was pointed in a safe direction, but no excuses here - I dropped the hammer without checking the chamber because I thought I'd cleared it. :uhoh:

I'm (hopefully) older AND wiser now.
 
Not me, but my son did. It's chronicled somewhere here. I have partial responsibility for it, for handing him a shotgun that we both thought was unloaded. Still it WAS him who racked the slide and pulled the trigger. In my bathroom....

I have never yet patched that hole. I leave for him as a reminder...and for me too. When he moves out eventually, then I'll fix it. Until then it stays.

Because he was pointing it up in the air, the only thing that got hurt was the ceiling and the roof. Insulation and roofing shingle bits ended up over on the neighbor's roof. Talk about embarrassing....

ETA: by the way, I am here to tell you that a 12 gauge going off in a small enclosed space is loud.

Springmom
 
This is probably more of an AD, but my actions contributed to it.

It was summer of 1989 or 1990, I cannot remember, very old Stevens bolt action .22. Looking back it was unsafe to shoot as it had be shot to pieces.

I remember I had the bolt stuck back somehow and used a kung fu grip on the bolt handle and willed the bolt forward--the rifle discharged at about a 30 degree angle upward. Thank goodness muzzle was downrange, thank goodness I remembered Rule #2, thank goodness for one hundred things.

To this day when I handle firearms I still remember the feeling of a firearm discharging when I did not want it to fire. No wonder I am a safety Nazi.:uhoh:
 
Quick question:
I've had this happen to me but I wouldn't call it an ND, since my gun was pointed downrange and I was still in the friring position and I pulled the trigger, planning to dryfire (I like to store the rifle with the hammer down) as I was about to put the rifle away. I guess it could be considered an 'accidental' discharge, since I was not expecting there to be a round in it, but it wasn't really an accident. The only difference between than and actually intentionally shooting the gun was that I wasn't really looking at the sights or aiming at anything particular.

Would you call that an ND?

If yes then I'm guilty. I never broke any of the four rules though.
 
No. I always remove the bolt, for a bolt action, or open the bolt on the lever action guns before I pick them up. When I close the lever actions, I always cycle it 3 times. Before I put the bolt back in, I look down the barrel from the butt end to make sure I can see through it. If the bolt is out, the is very little chance the gun is going to fire. Keeping the finger off the trigger will greatly reduce the chance of a gun firing. As for my defensive guns, my AR-15 is stored with a loaded mag in the well, and the bolt closed on an empty chamber. Before I even touch the gun, I remove the magazine, then I open the bolt. I then pick it up and immediately break it down to upper and lower receiver. When I am done with it, I make sure the bolt is close on in empty chamber, then I put the mag back in the well. For my Glock, it is loaded, it stays in its holster, and I DO NOT touch it at all unless someone kicks my door in. There is absolutely no dry firing aloud in my house. Make time to go to the range for that, I sure do. I also do not sit there and play with my guns. Only time they come out is to be cleaned, and I break them down for that, or to go to the range. Again, broken down.
 
but it wasn't really an accident. The only difference between than and actually intentionally shooting the gun was that I wasn't really looking at the sights or aiming at anything particular.

Would you call that an ND?
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I would, yes. If you didn't intend to send a round downrange, and you did it because of something other than mechanical failure, then yeah, it is.

But as ND's go, yours was on the safer end of the spectrum. :)

Springmom
 
No haven't had one.

Pistol range in the army saw a LT shot the ground when he was supposedly checking the chamber, how he was checking I dunno Thanks God nobody got hurt, range control kick him out though :D
 
Picked up a SMLE Mk1 in 0.410 Ga Took it home and not having any empty 410 cases at hand found some (empty?) 45 Colt cases that had been left over since the handgun ban here in the UK. Since they all were empty I proceeded to load one in the SMLE to try the action, pulled the trigger and BANG!

I forgot that I had homeloaded some blackpowder blanks for my Ruger Blackhawk many years ago, and there was one left among the empty cases.

They had been sealed with candle wax which made a reasonable dent in the brick wall. The gun was of course pointed in a safe direction although she who must be obeyed was not amused!!!

I guess that most of us will have a ND at some time and firmly believe in never pointing at anything you don't want to shoot.

Had a friend years ago who made a habit of dry firing a target placed on the end of his wifes clothes wardrobe..........you guessed it..........right through ALL her clothes.
 
Wow, 38% ND's so far...Thats higher than I expected.

But with as many old fogies on here that have been shooting for 50 years, its bound to happen to some.:D

Brad J,

Neither did I, but it happened. Put it right here on THR for all to see. Even bumped it a couple times in the hopes that others might see it and learn from my mistake.
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Would you mind posting the link?

DMK,

I hate to even vote. I feel like I might be jinxing myself.
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Just knock on some wood after voting and you'll be find :D
 
I have already posted my AD, ND or SD experience. It is probably a better idea to expect one rather than not to expect one. If you do expect one then hopefully that means that your muzzle is always pointed at something you can destroy and go on with life without skipping a beat.

Reading some of these stories jarred a memory of the most frightening ND experience I experienced. A Lcpl dumped a burst of M60 rounds at zero dark thirty after recovering from a SCUD alarm. The SOP was that with a SCUD alarm one squad stayed in fighting positions while two squads went into an underground bunker for protection. The Lcpl that had the ND tore off the belt from the M60 rather than opening the feed tray and completely making the weapon safe before moving to the bunker which was packed like a sardine can. Nerves, adrenaline or fatigue could have contributed to the stupidity. A tragedy was avoided only due to luck because one round of 7.62 would have taken down 3 or 4 Marines never mind what the effects of a single burst would have done. An M60 can also slam fire if dropped hard. On the sound of the M60 burst two squads started moving in a tactical manner back to fighting positions thinking, "Here they come". About a minute later the skipper voiced an all clear command and anyone within a 300m radius could hear him dressing the Lcpl. up, down, sideways and over. The Lcpl. was busy until after 13:00 the same day working hard without a break digging a regulation size grave with an e-tool in the sand.
 
I hate to even vote. I feel like I might be jinxing myself.
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Ditto
I thought I had an ND while decocking my CZ-52, then someone on THR informed me that was an AD and the CZ-52 is known for that problem. Luckily it was at the range with the muzzle pointed down range. And now I know not to chamber a round unless I'm where I can shoot it.

I did come very close to blowing a hole in the walls of my grandpa's basement with my dad's shotgun once when I was 16 or so. We had gotten back from shooting and I was putting the guns in the gun cabinet and just double checking the actions to make sure they were unloaded. My dad's shotgun was stuck, so that I couldn't work the slide action. I was pushing the release button and everything but it wouldn't go. I thought, "Well, maybe if I pull the trigger, then it will release." (!!!) I almost did just that, but then I thought, "Wait a minute, it should work when I'm pushing the release button." So I put my purse down and put some muscle into it, and sure enough, thunk... out pops a shell. That was an eye-opener. Thank goodness for that little voice that tries to protect me from my own stupidity.
 
Brad,

I bet you felt like a bit of a jacka$$ after that happened, considering you were teaching your friend gun safety.:D

Good story though, its always good to triple or quadrupal check...


Just Wed. I was at the range with one of my buddy's who doesn't shoot all that often. I just took a couple of scoped .22's for some good ol .22 competitions. My buddy was shooting my ruger 10/22 and I was shooting my marlin 39a. The marlin holds 18 rds IIRC and the ruger just holds 10, so I was usually just loading 10 rds into the marlin so we had the same amount of rounds. I had to run back to my car, which is about 50 yards from where we were shooting and when I got back my buddy told me he had loaded my marlin for me.

We commence shooting our last rds of the day and once we were out I started to put the ruger away...I do my triple check on it and up it away. Grab the marlin open up the action twice, nothing was in there, on the third try a round popped up into the chamber! It probably wouldn't have been a big deal, but I'd never want to put up a gun thats loaded and I didn't know it.

Guess its time to give my marlin a good cleanin':)
 
everybody says that it wont happen to them

stuff happens, thats why you follow the rules.
Pointing in a safe direction has saved my life.
I'm religious about that one.
 
Closest I've come was a "hang-fire" at the range with a .22lr. Click, reached up to do tap-rack-bang when BOOM! the round fired!! Scared the bejeezes outta me! Gun was pointed safely down range but I can't be sure the round impacted the berm because I was looking at the gun, not downrange.

--wally.
 
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