Have you lost any "friends" because of your interest in firearms?

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Morcey 2 _ ... " The next time I saw her [cousin] was at another informal family reunion and she looked so uncomfortable. Eventually she started yelling at me and started yelling "He's got a gun! He's got a gun!" because she knows that I always carry. I don't know what she was trying to accomplish; if she thought people would think I was threatening her, but I just kept my mouth shut. She finally left and she told my wife that I was probably going to shoot her (my wife) in her sleep and that she deserved it because she supports guns in our house. I haven't seen nor talked to her since and apparently she's never coming to another reunion or even to any funerals or weddings on our side of the family."

I would suggest your cousin is not merely "anti-gun." It sounds to me as if she has a serious phobia bordering on acute paranoia. She needs to start seeing a psychiatrist.

L.W.
 
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I have not lost, but I introduced shooting and guns to 2 friends that you may describe as " NPR-listening, sandals-wearing, compost-making, soy-milk-latte-drinking and Gay-Pride-Parade-supporting " individuals
we still disagree on some politics, but they love shooting :)
 
Deanimator said:
In general, it's FAR more about control than guns, although you will occasionally come across somebody who's just pathologically afraid of guns to the point of psychosis.

Being a liberal, I like to tell self-described "liberals" that gun control is "anti-sodomy laws for leftists". They're principally a way to show contempt for and domination over people you hate.

And not infrequently, there's a racial component. At least a plurality of White anti-gunners I've known weren't actually afraid of guns. They were afraid of BLACK people with guns. Press them hard enough and in the right way and they'll admit it.

Exactly. There are some very hateful people on the extreme left who'd gladly see us shot by the same guns our tax dollars have paid for, just for the mere thought of resisting their agenda in any way. This type of hatred exists in many groups and among both political extremes - the far left doesn't have a monopoly on it - but they have as much as anyone else.

But I've also made friends with people far more liberal than myself through shooting. One of my friends - a self-described "pinko" - just bought a Swedish Rolling Block from 1872 last week. It's her fifth gun, and she didn't own any just three years ago. I definitely played a part in that. And that also means that I'll be helping her figure out now to get 12.7x44 ammo loaded for her new old rifle. It'll be an experience to be sure...
 
My wife was Anti-gun when I met her. She had been the victim of an attempted car jacking and had a handgun stuck in her face. I trained her and took her to the range and she found she enjoyed it. Her main complaint now is that she doesn't get to shoot enough. Sometimes it doesn't take that much to turn someone to our side.
 
No friends lost here either. I do have a brother who lives on the left coast and he seems a bit bothered by the concept of "regular" people being able to own guns. In his culture a cell phone is the self defense weapon of choice, with a hot cup of Starbucks as back-up..
 
Morcey 2, you might show this to your very anti-guns cousin.


This pretty much describes our Country today.
If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn’t buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.


If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn`t eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.

If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his enemy.
A liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.


If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

If a black man or Hispanic are conservative, they see themselves as independently successful.
Their liberal counterparts see themselves as victims in need of government protection.


If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.


If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced. (Unless it's a foreign religion, of course!)


If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.

If a conservative slips and falls in a store, he gets up, laughs and is embarrassed.
If a liberal slips and falls, he grabs his neck, moans like he's in labor and then sues.

If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A liberal will delete it because he's "offended".
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Liberalism is a mental disorder.

L.W.
 
Resto Guy, you might remind your brother, regarding his cell phone, that "When seconds count, the police are minutes away."

L.W.
 
@ Leanwolf

I bet you're fun at parties.

If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

Wanting equal protection under the law is a mental disorder?

A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced. (Unless it's a foreign religion, of course!)

What's a foreign religion? Would that be anything that isn't Mormonism or borne of indigenous cultures?
 
I had a friend whom I haven't spoken to in years, we parted ways after an argument involving gun control, mental health, and due process.
In all honesty, his attitude about guns was IMO, just a symptom of his needing to maintain a constant victim status, and his desire for control over other people was not limited to firearms.
His company grew tiresome, and I wasn't bothered in the least to lose it.
That sums it up very nicely. There's no point in trying to maintain a friendship with an anal retentive jerk.
 
I haven't lost any friends but a great deal of distance has been created between myself and some of them after we had some serious gun rights conversations. Some friends from the UK refused to even entertain the concept of 2A rights (go figure) and reduced the conversation to "stop with your silly arguments about rights when children are dying, you don't need machine guns, the Army has nukes, etc". Basically they felt I should just shut up, follow the anti-gun herd, and recognize the superior power of my government. Two hundred and forty years later they still have no clue. I had no idea how little they understood and especially how little they were willing to understand until I engaged them seriously about firearms and the 2nd Amendment. Of course they still think an AK47 is a cool gun and would gladly pose with one for a picture, then go right back to trying to ban them from civilian ownership.

Then there's the girl I grew up with who posts anti-gun propaganda on facebook almost daily but when her daughter's prom date arrived he was greeted with a sign posted in their living room about her husband being an NRA Life Member as a means to intimidate the boy in jest. So it was cool to use the NRA for that purpose but they despise everything they think the NRA stands for. I'd unfollow her but she's how I learn the latest anti viewpoints so I know how to combat them.
 
That sums it up very nicely. There's no point in trying to maintain a friendship with an anal retentive jerk.
More than that, they're bullies who want to impose not just their laws on others, but their opinions as well.

I take a great delight in simply saying "NO, I REFUSE" to them. It just sends them into an insane rage. That in turn often leads to "statements against penal interest" and "excited utterances" on their part. Gee, you don't think I'd use such things against them... sometimes YEARS later...?
 
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Some friends from the UK refused to even entertain the concept of 2A rights (go figure) and reduced the conversation to "stop with your silly arguments about rights when children are dying, you don't need machine guns, the Army has nukes, etc".
My response to such people is, "You all made that argument in 1775. Remember how that turned out?"
 
I am not sure "lost" is the right term for me, as I try to accept people for who they are and do not expect them to think as I do. I do not wish to only associate with people with whom I agree, that is just boring. What is also boring is an ideologue with an agenda and the illusion that others must be converted to their way of thinking. If you disagree, you are wrong, misguided, ignorant, etc.

Isn't that special.
Bless your heart.
Your parents must be so proud.
Thank you for sharing.

It is more akin to a "choice" I make: get out.
 
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