Denied a Job Because of Interest in Firearms

[SwearNoAllegiance]

Last time I checked hobbies weren't protected from discrimination in hiring like race, gender and age are.

Even if it were I would seek no action. Interestingly enough, I believe private enterprise, this case a private hospital, has the right to discriminate on the basis of anything they want. That is freedom. Doesn't make it right or negate the bull****, but there you have it.

I always put 'N/A'. I am not lying - I just believe that it's none of their business how I spend my time out of the workplace.

Yes. Great Idea. I will do this from now on.

Smelly post. I call BS on the OP. Sorry, boys.

That is your prerogative. Though I must confess, you're behaving eerily similar to the woman who denied me the job.

But the idea that we have to hide these things as if they were shameful or inappropriate is infuriating to me

Agreed. I'm not going to lie about what I do, but as one guy mentioned above, it is not relevant to the job.

Also you are dealing with a story passed on by a friend, which means it has been filtered.

I don't think so. Who wouldn't rather be told, "you're not qualified" for the position? And besides, I never showed her the application or what was on it, just that I applied. She called me and notified me of this information during her lunch break. And besides, I'm kinda dating her ('lady friend' we really should formalize our relationship; mom would be excited). Why shouldn't I take her word for it? She came over about half an hour ago to see how I was doing because she was "worried." The new rule is, is that I have to show her my applications from now on.

 

[3pairs12]

Can HR personel disclose reasons for not hiring to a third party that has no need of such info? Unless your "lady friend" was going to be your supervisor the info should have never been disclosed to her. I know that you probably don't mind, it just seems that some things are suppossed to be confidential. Atleast you stuck to your morals and answered truthfully. If you were qualified for that job you'll find another with comparable pay.

 

[Rmeju]

I like guns. I like people who like guns.

But I have to be honest with you. As a person who sifts through those sorts of applications on occasion, if I saw that, somewhere in the back of my mind I would be thinking "this guy isn't smart enough not to put that on the application. What kind of judgement will he show when he's on the clock?"

If you want people to appreciate you firearms enthusiasm, go work at a gun shop. Out in the rest of the business world, you must put your personal feelings aside at all times in the interest of the company. No, not ethics, I said feelings.

You have certainly confused the two, and you want others to be confused with you. No.

 

[gun&knifecountry]

Sorry but this smell's a little, I have never seen a $75 an hour job. Like it's been said that much and its converted to a salary position or it's offshore commercial diving. Please post the type of job. Thanks

 

[CoRoMo]

We have a friend of the family who got fired from his job because he was making chit-chat with a customer.

He told the customer about having some vacation time coming up in which he said he would be deer hunting.

The customer was an important account for his company, and the customer complained and refused to do business with a company that employed gun lovers.

So he was promptly fired.

 

[SwearNoAllegiance]

Unless your "lady friend" was going to be your supervisor the info should have never been disclosed to her. I know that you probably don't mind, it just seems that some things are suppossed to be confidential.

Precisely. She teaches medicine at this place. I wouldn't have been under her directly, but we would have worked pretty close at times. She is under this other woman. She was told in confidence and is why I cannot call this lady up and say anything. She doesn't agree with this woman either and tried to sway her.

I am getting into EMT work, which is why my 'lady friend' referred me and thought it would be a great learning experience.

 

[pmeisel]

I am a dangerous man, one who thinks deep thoughts and associates freely with known independent thinkers.

On a job application, I am an industrious mule with just enough thought to satisfy the potential employer.

In an interview, you might go with your gut if you sense a personal connection, but its a gamble. Best to stay milk toast.

 

[Jorg Nysgerrig]

I am getting into EMT work, which is why my 'lady friend' referred me and thought it would be a great learning experience.

Wait, someone is going to pay you $150,000 a year for "getting into EMT work"? I find that pretty hard to believe.

 

[SwearNoAllegiance]

Sorry but this smell's a little, I have never seen a $75 an hour job. Like it's been said that much and its converted to a salary position or it's offshore commercial diving. Please post the type of job. Thanks

Certainly. The job isn't so much technical as much as it is slightly invasive. Essentially I would be memorizing medical complaints and letting med students figure out what is going on. May involve the occasional genital/rectal exam, but it is optional. So they pay you well. Plus it is less than 20 hours a month. It would supplement income from UPS until I can complete my paramedic studies and get hired somewhere.

 

[SwearNoAllegiance]

Wait, someone is going to pay you $150,000 a year for "getting into EMT work"? I find that pretty hard to believe.

Never said that. It is a 'gig.'

 

[Jorg Nysgerrig]

My bad. I assumed (as did many, I'd guess) that you were upset about not obtaining some form of long term employment with a six figure salary instead of being passed over as a guinea pig for medical students for a few bucks on the side.

 

[SwearNoAllegiance]

My bad. I assumed (as did many, I'd guess) that you were upset about not obtaining some form of long term employment with a six figure salary instead of being a guinea pig for medical students for a few bucks on the side.

No worries. I suppose it was partly my fault too. I didn't elaborate at the beginning about the type of job. I think she was right that it would have been a great learning experience before my actual labs.

 

[SwearNoAllegiance]

And I am upset about it, for the reasons given, but also because I would have worked less and matched or exceeded my pay from UPS.

 

[3pairs12]

Are you in or near a big city. I sometimes do marketing research, where I am placed on a panel and we discuss likes and dislikes of new products. The pay is comparable to the gig you had arranged but only about 10hrs a month. You may check into that. Its my play money.

 

[SwearNoAllegiance]

Are you in or near a big city. I sometimes do marketing research, where I am placed on a panel and we discuss likes and dislikes of new products. The pay is comparable to the gig you had arranged but only about 10hrs a month. You may check into that. Its my play money.

Sent you a PM.

 

[pbearperry]

Hobbies

If you said you loved photography and really enjoyed taking pics of kids on the school playground,you probably would have received the job.Guns are bad,weird is good.What a world we live in.:banghead:

 

[leadcounsel]

Collecting "precious metals" (aka ammuntion - lead and brass)!

HA!

Tinkering with small mechanical tools (aka gunsmithing)!

 

[GonHuntin]

Stamp collecting......NFA stamps!

 

[solareclipse]

Whenever I want to get rejected for employment by a given organization (it happens), I make sure to include controversial information on my resume or application, particularly of a political, religious or sexual nature.

You forgot to include antisocial dreams you may get and desires to take over the world.

I never quite got it... Hobbies on a job application? Are you guys insane or do you fill these out for the sake of writing something?

 

[WardenWolf]

The grounds would be discriminating against you for exercising your lawful rights. You may not be a protected class, but discrimination for exercising lawful rights could arguably be a violation of those rights.

 

[Jeff White]

The grounds would be discriminating against you for exercising your lawful rights. You may not be a protected class, but discrimination for exercising lawful rights could arguably be a violation of those rights.

You aren't going to get that suit heard. The only rights that are protected against discrimination in employment are the ones enumerated in the statutes, age, gender, race and in some places sexual orientation.

 

[Maia007]

The only correct answer to "hobbies and other interests" is "working evenings and weekends for free".

 

[yongxingfreesty]

lol at stamp collection.

 

[Jorg Nysgerrig]

The grounds would be discriminating against you for exercising your lawful rights. You may not be a protected class, but discrimination for exercising lawful rights could arguably be a violation of those rights.

I am baffled how anyone with even the most basic understanding of constitutional law and/or employment law would arrive at this conclusion. It simply doesn't bear out under even the lightest scrutiny. What's next, a suggestion that a person has some kind of legal/civil right recourse if he is fired for wearing a shirt that says, "My boss is an idiot" as some kind of exercise of free speech?

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Also, beware you "Stamp Collectors", you might just find yourself interviewed by some hardcore philatelist who will grill you about your collection.

 

[Prince Yamato]

You never put anything controversial or political on an application.

Hobbies on a resume are: Reading, listening to music, painting, hanging out with friends.

NOT: Collecting NFA weapons, hosting AK-47 build parties, anything religious, anything political.

So, that $75/hour you could have been earning and spending on NFA weapons or restoring classic firearms... gone, because you proselytized on a resume.