easyg
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Then you know that the role the handgun plays in war is insignificant at best.Yep, i've served in the military.
US Army infantry.
The same cannot be said of the handgun's role in police work.
Then you know that the role the handgun plays in war is insignificant at best.Yep, i've served in the military.
US Army infantry.
DoubleTap 9mm+P Penetration / expansion
115gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1415fps - 12.00" / .70"
124gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1310fps - 13.25" / .70"
147gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1125fps - 14.00" / .66"
DoubleTap .40 S&W
135gr. Nosler JHP @ 1375fps - 12.10" / .72"
155gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1275fps - 13.00" / .76"
165gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1200fps - 14.0" / .70"
DoubleTap .357 Sig
115gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1550fps - 12.25" / .71"
125gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1450fps - 14.5" / .66"
147gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1250fps - 14.75" / .73"
DoubleTap .357 Magnum
125gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1600fps - 12.75" / .69"
158gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1400fps - 19.0" .56"
DoubleTap .45ACP
185gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1225fps - 12.75" / .82"
200gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1125fps - 14.25" / .88"
230gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1010fps - 15.25" / .95"
Which means nothing when the 9mm bullet penetrates just as deep and opens just as wide.
No, you're wrong again.The term "full house" refers to a cartridge loaded to the SAAMI max pressure levels, or close to it.
Exactly like Doubletap .40 and .357 sig and 9mm ammo is.
Seriously, you do not know what you're talking about. Max pressure .357 sig kicks MUCH harder than 9mm.
I do not understand why after the publication of this well known test.....
.....which happened quite some time ago, these silly debates still go on....
There is anybody that seriously think that there is any actual practical differences in terminal effectiveness on humans between 9mm, 40 S&W and 45 ACP??? Do you really think that if you hit someone in exactly the same spot he/she may survive/shrug off a 9mm while a 45 would stop or kill?? If you really think so I have a bridge in New York to sell you....
So you don't believe that the .40 makes a bigger hole and destroy more tissue than the 9mm, all other things being equal?
Shoot your 40 all you want, carry it all you want. Just be aware it will not perform any better than a 9mm.
...or a 45 or that matter.....
Finally, something we can agree upon.If you are a good shooter then you are good to go.
It might not out perform the .45, but it does perform as well as the .45.....or a 45 or that matter
Finally, something we can agree upon.
It might not out perform the .45, but it does perform as well as the .45.
I hear ya.A minor quibble, if I may: the California Highway Patrol is the state police. There used to be a California State Police that exclusively protected state government facilities such as courthouses, but they were taken over by the CHP some time ago . (I am a California native.)
So the .45 ACP is obviously the worst of the three by this measuring stick. It has the lowest cross sectional density AND the lowest velocity. By this logic, if you went with a 100gr 9mm bullet and downloaded it to 875fps, it would then be equal to .45 ACP.I however have shown you that sectional density and velocity, when both are the same, the caliber is inane.
They are government property.Those are personal weapons.
So the .45 ACP is obviously the worst of the three by this measuring stick. It has the lowest cross sectional density AND the lowest velocity. By this logic, if you went with a 100gr 9mm bullet and downloaded it to 875fps, it would then be equal to .45 ACP.
It's understandable that so many issue the .40. It has plenty of power, as much and at times more than the .45, and it has 9mm like capacity. It's not magic, nothing is, but it has served well and it's a fantastic self defense cartridge.