I have been entertaining carrying an assisted opening knife along with my firearm after reading several articles on how efficient they may be at close range. I hate to add something, but it seems like a good idea. I do have several but they sit in my desk or other places, Any thoughts?
How many carry a knife along with their primary
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We ran a knife stage at the local idpa match. Your firearm was off body and you had to engage a target with the knife and then get your gun.
If you go to a training event - everyone with training usually carries a knife.
Not to divert but I prefer the Spyderco round hole to assisted opening. Don't like the studs - not positive enough. YMMV.
If you go to a training event - everyone with training usually carries a knife.
Not to divert but I prefer the Spyderco round hole to assisted opening. Don't like the studs - not positive enough. YMMV.
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Yep.
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Since my daughter absconded with my every day Benchmade Mini Griptilian I bought myself a spring assisted Benchmade Mini Barrage. It is always clipped in my front pocket. Maybe those are not big enough for what I think the OP implies but they'll do in a pinch.
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Ohio has preemption of local firearms laws. There are NO gun laws here below the state level, and precious few of those.
On the other hand, every little podunk town can have its own knife laws, and the Ohio Concealed Handgun License is EXACTLY what it says. It makes no provision for knives, clubs or anything else.
The only time I carry a knife is when I carry my boxcutter at work, and from work to the parking garage.
On the other hand, every little podunk town can have its own knife laws, and the Ohio Concealed Handgun License is EXACTLY what it says. It makes no provision for knives, clubs or anything else.
The only time I carry a knife is when I carry my boxcutter at work, and from work to the parking garage.
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Unless I'm somewhere that I can't carry a knife I always have one.
Is there one type that is better for combat than an other. I must have a dozen different push button flip switch and regular folding types. I saw "bullet to the head" "stupid movie, nice knife" the bad guy had a curved "nasty" looking blade, I started looking at Spyderco, and others but didn't find that type. Also there was a link to a MMA website that used these type curved blade knives, as their main fighting discipline.
Any idea of weather they are more deadly or just a gimmick. They seem to be able to maneuver around the curves of the body extremely well for Close quarter combat.
It has been proven over the years that "close in" a knife can be faster and more lethal" than a gun, "not that I am planning on giving my guns away", but it would make a second option if one was attacked from the rear, like in an enclosed area or parking lot, from behind.
There was also a knife that police use that opens when drawn from it's sheath, I forgot that name also.
I am on a Knife finding mission.
Any idea of weather they are more deadly or just a gimmick. They seem to be able to maneuver around the curves of the body extremely well for Close quarter combat.
It has been proven over the years that "close in" a knife can be faster and more lethal" than a gun, "not that I am planning on giving my guns away", but it would make a second option if one was attacked from the rear, like in an enclosed area or parking lot, from behind.
There was also a knife that police use that opens when drawn from it's sheath, I forgot that name also.
I am on a Knife finding mission.
I always carry a knife. When I’m CCW, most of the time it’s a Kershaw assisted opener for lefty’s in my left front pocket because I’m right handed.
My rationale for the lefty’s knife is that there would most likely have been a problem with my right hand otherwise I would have gone to my gun.
My rationale for the lefty’s knife is that there would most likely have been a problem with my right hand otherwise I would have gone to my gun.
I always carry a knife, tho I dont carry a gun. (not of age yet) I advise something like this
http://www.crkt.com/M16-10KSF-Special-Forces-Tanto-Black
I know my knives, assisted opening is over rated in my opinion. wear it like this ,(see the first picture keep in mind the blade edge is facing behind me in the second pic im pulling it by the butt of the knife) there would be a clip on it but i removed mine because it broke I also would have it in my normal pocket. (my fault) The "arms" serve not only to guard your fingers but also when you pull it our of ur pocket you do it in such a way that it opens as u draw it so its open by the time its brought into the ready position. I've "panic drawn" this knife once, a pit bull charged at me (never seen this dog before) but was intent on playing (darted to the side and started doing circles around me) I've used this knife alot 3-4 years ive had it. Ive used it for everything from cleaning game to cutting rope and hacking through sticks and opening a small wooden crate (be carefull or you will snap the blade) My version is the older "out dated" version of the knife in the link. I practiced for 20 mins drawing the knife and useing the prongs to engage the blade as it was removed and after that i never had a failure with it. Mine even comes with a second locking mechanism to make sure it dosent close on ur finger and the inner line lock dosent get disengaged.
http://www.crkt.com/M16-10KSF-Special-Forces-Tanto-Black
I know my knives, assisted opening is over rated in my opinion. wear it like this ,(see the first picture keep in mind the blade edge is facing behind me in the second pic im pulling it by the butt of the knife) there would be a clip on it but i removed mine because it broke I also would have it in my normal pocket. (my fault) The "arms" serve not only to guard your fingers but also when you pull it our of ur pocket you do it in such a way that it opens as u draw it so its open by the time its brought into the ready position. I've "panic drawn" this knife once, a pit bull charged at me (never seen this dog before) but was intent on playing (darted to the side and started doing circles around me) I've used this knife alot 3-4 years ive had it. Ive used it for everything from cleaning game to cutting rope and hacking through sticks and opening a small wooden crate (be carefull or you will snap the blade) My version is the older "out dated" version of the knife in the link. I practiced for 20 mins drawing the knife and useing the prongs to engage the blade as it was removed and after that i never had a failure with it. Mine even comes with a second locking mechanism to make sure it dosent close on ur finger and the inner line lock dosent get disengaged.
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Carry 2, one Spyderco, one dozier.
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Wait... you mean there are people who *don't* EDC, at the least, a small folder? Have we recently discovered another dimension consisting entirely of airports, or something?
People worldwide hold many religious beliefs: mine include the carry of some sort of folder.
Right now, it's my latest heartthrob, the Spyderco Ulize, but it's always something.
And, yes, I've trained a reasonable amount in its use defensively (under some fantastic instructors) but that's really besides the point; they're just so useful for cutting things, and cheaper to collect than, say, P&R S&W K-frames.
Regarding curved blades, most derive somehow from the Indonesian Kerambit, and are a bit more specialized--though perfectly serviceable. I'm personally fond of Spyderco's 'Civilian' model, for example, though it's of limited value for daily chores. I gave my wife the *slightly* less agro 'Matriarch' for SD (She's a grad of the original spyderco clipit course under Remmen), but I'd lean towards more standard blade designs for EDC, myself.
What can I say? Find something legal to your location, and enjoy!
People worldwide hold many religious beliefs: mine include the carry of some sort of folder.
Right now, it's my latest heartthrob, the Spyderco Ulize, but it's always something.
And, yes, I've trained a reasonable amount in its use defensively (under some fantastic instructors) but that's really besides the point; they're just so useful for cutting things, and cheaper to collect than, say, P&R S&W K-frames.
Regarding curved blades, most derive somehow from the Indonesian Kerambit, and are a bit more specialized--though perfectly serviceable. I'm personally fond of Spyderco's 'Civilian' model, for example, though it's of limited value for daily chores. I gave my wife the *slightly* less agro 'Matriarch' for SD (She's a grad of the original spyderco clipit course under Remmen), but I'd lean towards more standard blade designs for EDC, myself.
What can I say? Find something legal to your location, and enjoy!
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I am very happy with my Spyderco Manix2 and I carry it and my Randall Model 3 (5" fixed blade) all the time. I look more for utility in my knives rather than perceived lethality or usefulness as a weapon. I'm certainly not saying that a smaller blade isn't useful for self defense, but most knives that are considered "fighting" knives have blade lengths that make them not very convenient to carry on a daily basis. I have a Randall Model 14 that is appropriate as a weapon, but with its 7.5" blade it isn't something I carry often.
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I've been carrying a pocket knife since I was about 6-7. Can't even remember when I got my first knife. I've went through the whole range of knives; Buck 110s, traditional Case pocket knives, Emerson Tacticals, Marbles Safety Folder... Call me old school, I guess I've mellowed over the years. Today it is usually an Opinel #8, or a Swiss Army Knife (Trekker). For a field knife, I have a Wild Bear Puukko, sometimes an 8 inch Kukri, or a Svord Peasant Knife for woods duty. Pretty basic stuff.
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I carry a multitool. Deploying the knife portion of it is a 2 handed job, and easily takes 3+ seconds. It's definitely carried as a tool.
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I'm wary of the idea of carrying any sort of knife that isn't obviously a tool. For one, if you ever had to use one in self-defense, you'd have to get close enough to be cut or hit with the weapon they have, and if you're not close enough, you might as well run away. That also doesn't account for the fact that they don't work very good at stopping threats. Knives generally make terrible defensive tools, with the limited exception of confined spaces like elevators.
Second, carrying a "fighting knife" of any sort would make you look bad to police who might decide to charge you, and juries who might decide to convict you. Right or wrong, knives are not as "dignified" as firearms, they are generally thought of as thug weapons, and therefore you will be under scrutiny. There will probably be a thought of "Why were you carrying that thing if you weren't planning on stabbing someone?" Same goes for any sort of "tactical knife" or anything that isn't clearly a tool.
Just some thoughts.
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I carry a Gerber Multitool and a Buck 110 folder at work every day; I use the Gerber far more often than the buck.
If you're considering carrying a knife for fighting I suggest you learn how to fight with a knife first.
If you're considering carrying a knife for fighting I suggest you learn how to fight with a knife first.
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Yes. I am often more selective about my pocket knives then my firearms. Namely because the pocket knife gets more use. One reason why I was happy to see THR had a knife section. Typically it is a 3 or 4 inch blade clipped to the lip of my right front pocket. Which I am sure where 95% of typical pocket knives are carried.
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I carry a Kershaw speedsafe everyday. Can't recall the model name, but one of their cheaper ones. Looking to upgrade to one of their better ones, soon. I'm a big fan of assisted opening flippers.
Carried a knife from the age of 16. In school.
Had more problems with carry the last few years around airports and courthouses, although the budget battle the Sheriff and County Commission had about who was paying for staffing got the xray machines pulled finally. Good riddance.
Most of the time it's been a locking folder in the 3 1/2" range, other than that, there is without a doubt no effective difference in terms of self defense. It would take an expertly trained and skilled individual to use the slight difference. What counts going in is knowing You Will Get Cut Up No Matter What. If it's that desperate a situation, you should have pulled your gun, and used it.
Knives in self defense lack stopping power in a much higher degree than a bullet. You can't stab or slash someone and expect them to fall down incapacitated, it will not happen. Since we already know you can't count on your firearm to do it, it's ludicrous to expect a knife to do it.
Sure, a certain move or tactic might inflict a fatal wound, the difficulty is that it requires contact distance, and that alone guarantees you must be equally vulnerable to a countermove. Better to stand off ten feet and shoot. In fact, better to stand off 100 yards, even with a pistol. The entire point of weapons development in history is to create as much standoff room as possible to reduce injury to yourself.
From knives, to swords, to lances, to bows, the effort has been to keep expanding the standoff. We're up to cruise missiles and satellites, if you carry a gun, there is no advantage to stepping back to a lesser weapon such as a knife.
Carry it as a tool and don't be one.
I just changed up my EDC from a Benchmade Risk 950 to a Leatherman Sidekick, and honestly, it's done more work for me in the few days I've had it than the knife did in two months of carry. Would I carry the Risk in a high risk environment over the Leatherman, sure - but the primary weapon would be an 6.8SPC AR15 with a 9mm Glock as backup.
Knives are in a huge renaissance of designs and materials, but absolutely aren't any better as a weapon than they were 1,000 years ago. And a man armed with just a knife then was no match for one with a sword, lance, or bow.
Had more problems with carry the last few years around airports and courthouses, although the budget battle the Sheriff and County Commission had about who was paying for staffing got the xray machines pulled finally. Good riddance.
Most of the time it's been a locking folder in the 3 1/2" range, other than that, there is without a doubt no effective difference in terms of self defense. It would take an expertly trained and skilled individual to use the slight difference. What counts going in is knowing You Will Get Cut Up No Matter What. If it's that desperate a situation, you should have pulled your gun, and used it.
Knives in self defense lack stopping power in a much higher degree than a bullet. You can't stab or slash someone and expect them to fall down incapacitated, it will not happen. Since we already know you can't count on your firearm to do it, it's ludicrous to expect a knife to do it.
Sure, a certain move or tactic might inflict a fatal wound, the difficulty is that it requires contact distance, and that alone guarantees you must be equally vulnerable to a countermove. Better to stand off ten feet and shoot. In fact, better to stand off 100 yards, even with a pistol. The entire point of weapons development in history is to create as much standoff room as possible to reduce injury to yourself.
From knives, to swords, to lances, to bows, the effort has been to keep expanding the standoff. We're up to cruise missiles and satellites, if you carry a gun, there is no advantage to stepping back to a lesser weapon such as a knife.
Carry it as a tool and don't be one.
I just changed up my EDC from a Benchmade Risk 950 to a Leatherman Sidekick, and honestly, it's done more work for me in the few days I've had it than the knife did in two months of carry. Would I carry the Risk in a high risk environment over the Leatherman, sure - but the primary weapon would be an 6.8SPC AR15 with a 9mm Glock as backup.
Knives are in a huge renaissance of designs and materials, but absolutely aren't any better as a weapon than they were 1,000 years ago. And a man armed with just a knife then was no match for one with a sword, lance, or bow.
I have owned and carried folders from most of the major manufacturers, including a few automatics, a Benchmade balisong, and other interesting things.
For everyday chores, it's hard to beat the 1-2 punch of a Spyderco Endura and a Leatherman Juice.
For last-resort defensive use, a small, sharp, quality fixed blade is my preference. The Ka-Bar TDI is a decent choice at a good price.
You could pick up all 3 from amazon.com for $100-150 and be fairly well equipped.
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For everyday chores, it's hard to beat the 1-2 punch of a Spyderco Endura and a Leatherman Juice.
For last-resort defensive use, a small, sharp, quality fixed blade is my preference. The Ka-Bar TDI is a decent choice at a good price.
You could pick up all 3 from amazon.com for $100-150 and be fairly well equipped.
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