I get tired of people getting so uppity about clip v magazine

[EddieNFL]

Hold on there! Some of those should be called 355's.

Amateurs.

356 if you load cast. Don't get me started on the .44SPL/MAG uppitiness.

I once heard a guy ask a stewardess what kind of cokes she had. She replied, diet, classic and the "new" one. He wanted a Mountain Dew.

 

[45_auto]

I once heard a guy ask a stewardess what kind of cokes she had. She replied, diet, classic and the "new" one. He wanted a Mountain Dew.

That's a standard question in many parts of the south. "Coke" and "soft drink" are used interchangeably (kind of like "magazine" and "clip" by some people). It often causes confusion (again, kind of like using "clip" when you mean "magazine"). If you want a cola soft drink down here, you ask for a "Coca-cola" or a "Pepsi".

 

[Buck Kramer]

In WWII it may have made a difference, but in modern battle everyone is using magazines so if some shmuck said throw me a clip, I'm sure the job would still get done. I just love hearing journalists screaming about "clip restrictions" and "assault clips".....

 

[saddlebum]

In WWII it may have made a difference, but in modern battle everyone is using magazines so if some shmuck said throw me a clip, I'm sure the job would still get done. I just love hearing journalists screaming about "clip restrictions" and "assault clips".....

and there are still clips that are used to load modern magazines.
clips load magazines,magazines load chambers

 

[LibShooter]

In firearms nomenclature, there is a difference between "clip" and "magazine" despite the common usage of both to describe the same thing.

But that's changing. As somebody said before, English evolves. A "magazine" used to be a sturdy brick building where gunpowder was stored. Now it's a little box that holds cartridges (which used to be paper rolled around powder and ball). "Clip" is evolving to mean the little box to hold ammo. In a few years that's what it will mean to everybody... Marine Corps drill instructors will someday teach recruits to slap clips into rifles (or heaven forbid, "guns").

I say "magazine" and likely always will. It's what my daddy taught me. Someday I'll sound stodgy and old fashioned... like my dad did when he called the sound system the "hi-fi."

 

[Lex Luthier]

I was at a mens breakfast yesterday and the friend next to me used the a phrase something like "emptying a full clip" and ALL the men laughed. We have to remember that even if a guy has shot a little, he still gets most of his technical references from movies.

I chose to NOT correct him. He doesn't even own a firearm anyway.

 

[Charleo0192]

It's best to use the correct terminology as others have stated already. That said, If someone does get it wrong, just make sure you let them know. If the same person continues to use wrong terminology, let it go. You, along with everyone in the firearm community, know what they mean. No need to get upset over a simple wrong.

 

[303tom]

Just get it right then !!!!!

 

[Kleanbore]

Certainly "magazine" is the correct term when it refers to a removable box magazine, but over the years, the term "clip" has been used in some US Army manuals and in product advertising for some .22 rimfire rifles and for magazine holders.

Incorrect? OK. Something that needs correcting? Well, if one is teaching, or editing something, yes. But just to prove something? Well, most people I know would not really enjoy being chastised for something like that. How many of the people who get excited about this use the terms accuracy and precision properly?

Would one "correct" a child reporting on the history of Samuel Colt's patents simply because some "official" modern definitions now distinguish between revolvers and other pistols? I wouldn't.

We've had this discussion before, and while I use the terms properly, I have never understood why some people make such a big deal about it.

 

[ball3006]

So, now I have to load my M1 with a magazine? chris3

 

[Loosedhorse]

I read an article about this in a gun clip this month.

 

[Zach S]

I don't get bent out of shape about it, but will subtly correct someone.

On the subject of correct terminology, I ended up behind the counter at a gun store/range I frequent because they got swamped. I had a customer ask me for some "9mm bullets" and I grabbed a box that had just came in and was waiting to go on the shelf. He was rather rude and called me an idiot when he realized what was in the box, so I was rather rude while explaining that bullets are a component of assembled ammo...

 

[MistWolf]

Not just any magazine. An En Bloc magazine

 

[Robert]

Words have certain specific definitions. Use them correctly and we have no issue. One can not change the definition, or usage, of a word simply because they think it should be one way or the other.

So, now I have to load my M1 with a magazine?

Nope. The M1 Garand has an internal magazine that is loaded with a clip.

 

[MistWolf]

So the en Bloc Magazine is inserted into the Clip Well?

 

[bhk]

I use the correct teminology. I also believe it is better to lead by example, rather than constantly correcting others. Nothing wrong with guidance and correction when the timing is correct, but when it interfers with the context of the conversation it is rude.

When someone asks about whether a 7-round clip or an 8-round clip is best for holding bullets in a 1911, it might be best to say you prefer 7-round magazines for holding cartridges in you 1911. The point is still made and you haven't personally insulted the OP. Politeness goes a long way. Crudeness stinks.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

As near as I can tell, the 'uppity' people just about any people who correct the willfully ignorant people. The ignorant people who want to learn will take and use the information correctly instead of wearing their ignorance as a badge of honor.

 

[sig220mw]

I gave up on the "correct word or term" battle a long time ago.

Got tired of explaining what the ORIGINAL meaning of double action is.

Got tired of telling people it's sneaked and not snuk.

My wife told me I need to shut up since I use the word ain't.

She had a point.

 

[VBVAGUY]

Tell that to the millions of marines and soldiers that went through boot camp being corrected by their Drill Instructors and then telling them to perform a bazillion pushups !!! If you were to hear someone say look at that 'Horseless carriage', you would probably correct letting them know it is correctly called an automobile. God Bless

 

[NavyLCDR]

Interesting how the NRA says that clip and magazine are synonymous. Somebody really should educate those ignorant folks at the NRA....

http://www.nraila.org/issues/firearmsglossary/

CLIP
A device for holding a group of cartridges. Semantic wars have been fought over the word, with some insisting it is not a synonym for "detachable magazine." For 80 years, however, it has been so used by manufacturers and the military. There is no argument that it can also mean a separate device for holding and transferring a group of cartridges to a fixed or detachable magazine or as a device inserted with cartridges into the mechanism of a firearm becoming, in effect, part of that mechanism.

Oh well....

Not only does Marlin sell magazine clips but so does Remington:

http://www.remington.com/products/a...ips/models-six-7600-760-76magazine-clips.aspx

And, of course, we could not expect Merriam-Webster to get it right either, could we?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/clip?show=1&t=1322404320

2: a device to hold cartridges for charging the magazines of some rifles; also : a magazine from which ammunition is fed into the chamber of a firearm

 

[Lone_Gunman]

I grow tired of a generation who's primary goal seems to be designed to continually find new ways to be offended.

That right there is the quote of the day.


I am curious, are the guys that are so offended by people misusing the terms magazine and clip also offended by people who shortent the term "magazine" to just "mag"??

Mag isn't even a word.

 

[EddieNFL]

A "magazine" used to be a sturdy brick building where gunpowder was stored.

Haven't been built of brick for quite some time, but the technical name is still magazine.

Somebody really should educate those ignorant folks at the NRA....

Too late; may as well try to educate politicians and journalists.

 

[youngda9]

You're tired of the uppityness of this debate...SO you post a thread to encourage more uppidyness. I don't get it.

 

[EddieNFL]

You're tired of the uppityness of this debate...SO you post a thread to encourage more uppidyness. I don't get it.

A pastor friend once told me once folks learn he is a minister, they want to ask theological questions. Not because they're looking for answers, but so they can tell him the answers.

 

[Bubba613]

Using "clip" when "magazine" is meant is a mark of wilful ignorance about guns. Either one doesn't know better (in which case he's not really a "gun person"), or he knows better but persists, as part of an anti-gun meme

OK, I just have to ask how using clip as a synonym for magazine is "anti-gun."
I think I'll start doing it all the time just to see supposed gun-people's heads explode.