I know a real gunsmith

armoredman

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I know a REAL gunsmith. The kind of gunsmith you read about, one who does things by the seat of his pants but with a micrometer at hand. May I present, LAGS.

He can take this;

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And make this;

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To become this.

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I got to fire both of them. I am gonna try to buy the short one, built of a stub of a .54 caliber barrel he cut off my son's rifle while rebuilding it from this;

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to this;

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You know someone who works on ARs, and calls themselves a gunsmith? That's cute...
 
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Plus, my son, who I bought the wreck for, wanted a slightly shorter barrel. The rifle as purchased was practically unusuable, as everything Bubba could have done wrong, he did wrong, such as welding the tunnion under the barrel instead of dovetailing it, and the resultant "work" on the lock to try to make it fit...you have to go to castboolits to read the full story.
As above, the semi-buckhorn rear sight you see on the one pistol was carved from the hunk of steel posted on the vise above it. He did more with less - the nose cap you see on the one in the video he built from brass stock. I give him the shavings from my case prep machine so he can melt them into brass engraving.
I paid MUCH less than the asking price.
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To this;

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Nice work. Rather innovative to use the head of a cartridge case as a stock washer.

There's been discussion among the rifle builders (muzzle loaders) as to what they really are. Historically in Europe not one person made the gun. Blacksmiths made the part. Whitesmiths filed them into shape. Other people made accoutrements. Barrel makers made barrels. Gunstockers assembled everything onto a stock. Most gunsmiths didn't make locks (but Wallace Gusler proved that it could be done) or barrels (ditto w/Gusler) but bought stuff to assemble. If you read Ned Roberts or Walter Cline's books, we know that many backwoods smiths did hammer out their own barrel and rifle them.

Like they teach lawyers, everything is arguing definition or interpreting the meaning. Recently a lot of kids dropped out of Trinidad College Gunsmithing School b/c it's unlike all the stuff they've seen on the television. It's more than slapping together an AR. If you played with an Erector Set, Lego, you can build an AR. No one expects to be turning down barrels or reaming them out to rebore them. No one expects the tedious work involved in making a wood stock or all the bench metal work to make parts or tools but those are skills that must be mastered.

If you would like to learn the skills so aptly shown by Larry (ArmoredMan's friend), sign up for the NMLRA Summer Gunbuilder's Workshop. You study under the masters which is how I met Wallace Gusler, Gary Brumfield (dec.), Mark Silver, Jim Chambers, Hershel/Frank/John/Lally House, Jack Brooks, Ron Ehlert (dec.), Miller, etc. Among the "students" are many whom can be called masters too. One guy is a surgeon and he built a girandoni. Conner Prairie Museum in Fishers, Indiana also offers workshops in October. Besides the stocking of a rifle, you'll also learn how to do relief carving, wire inlay, engraving. If you want to do the latter, start studying rococo art and drawing them. Like Wallace said, if you can't draw, you can't carve (you have to be able to draw what you carve, wire inlay or engrave).
 
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If you look at the way the post is arranged, you'll see the "cartridge head" washers were put there by Bubba - LAGS replaced them with the correct stuff when he converted junk to functional artwork, and I do not believe he ever went to any gunsmithing school, but taught himself through hard work and trial and error. Removed.
 
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If you look at the way the post is arranged, you'll see the "cartridge head" washers were put there by Bubba - LAGS replaced them with the correct stuff when he converted junk to functional artwork, and I do not believe he ever went to any gunsmithing school, but taught himself through hard work and trial and error. Removed.
Interesting. We had a local gunsmith (inventor of the 22 LR Gatling gun) who put facets on his long rifles. I never asked to see one (he had mobility issues so I wasn't going to ask him to get up) but it shows that the design can evolve. RIP Paul Moore.
 
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