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Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Min, Mar 31, 2008.

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  1. outerlimit

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    I don't think there's a such thing as a gun with a zinc slide lasting forever.

    Even the Walther P-22's (.22lr) with their zinc slides have a bad reputation for failures.
     
  2. Jim101

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    I have had my Hi Point 9mm for about 2 yrs. After the first 250 rounds, no problems.. I put a Hogue Handall grip sleeve on it and that fixed the grip problem.
    I also have an extra factory mag for it... It may be up for sale..

    Jim
     
  3. NWdude83

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    I own a Hi-point carbine (with an ATI stock) but I would never buy one of their pistols. Wouldn't take one even if I won it.
     
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    Just looking at that picture :barf: makes Glocks look pretty :evil:

    Anyway my brother bought two (more like was given) one ran fine, the other went full auto (maybe some modification done by previous owner, unknown).
     
  5. DougDubya

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    Would you send it to me, then? Hate to see an inexpensive, but reliable firearm go to waste.
     
  6. The Lone Haranguer

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    I paid six times as much as that Hi-Point for a gun that wouldn't function and shed parts all over the range floor. :rolleyes::barf: Mere cost is not a reliable indicator of value.
     
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    I agree 100% with MachIVshooter
     
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    While in the Gunshop today to pick up my new SP-101.
    MY better looking half and I looked at the guns in the
    dispaly case. An overpriced Kahr, Nice XD40
    and a lone Hi-Point.

    I commented that it might blow up in your hand with the first shot.

    She replied: I guess that is why the price is only a hundred
    bucks!

    They might not be that bad, but I'd prefer a used SIGMA
    or CZ-100 used Ruger or anything else for a few bucks more.

    I'd feel better off with a EAA .22 Single Six copy than a
    Hi-Point, if $150 was my budget.
     
  10. NWdude83

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    Only if you promise not to sue me when it blows up in your face.
     
  11. DougDubya

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    NWdude - Haven't heard of a Hipoint going grenade. ;)
     
  12. Prototypeperson

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    I've only shot one Hi-point pistol (9mm), and I have to say, I was dissapointed. I was considering one to keep in my car, so my buddy let me take his to the range. I was using win white box fmj's, shooting at 10 yds. When it did shoot, it seemed accurate, but kind of "uncomfortable". It had a bit of muzzle flip, which I guess was due to it's heavy slide and high barrel. The main problem however, was it's light firing pin. It seemed about 1 in 3 rounds would not set off. I even would load the round again to try, and still nothing. One of the rounds had 5 little dents in it (which were not in the same spot), and it still had not fired. The ammo did, however, work fine in my Kahr CW-9. I guess maybe that Hi-point just sucked, but that's my experience. The carbine was nice on another note, even though it felt like I was holding a cheap BB gun. Either way, IMO, I wouldn't worry about the police taking my gun after defending my family, I think that should be the least of your worries. Then again, here in Missouri, we have castle law, and they DON'T take your gun :).
     
  13. BMW2

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    I've had mine for about 2 years. I've put well over 2000 rounds of various brands and bullet types. 2 failure to feeds from the first box and it has been completely reliable since. I didn't even clean it till I hit 2000 rounds. It's a great gun IMO. It's ugly and and you need a punch for disassembly but for someone who is on a budget and wants to protect himself/family it's a great choice. Do I own nicer/more expensive guns? Sure but they're all fun to shoot, even the inexpensive ones.
     
  14. CajunBass

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    Which is exactly why I bought mine. I wanted to see if they were as bad as "everyone" says they are. :D

    I can't speak for anyone elses, but mine works like a champ. I've put about 2,000 rounds through it before I got bored with it, and put it back in the box. During that time it malfunctioned maybe a half dozen times and four of those were out of one box of range reloads.

    Accurate? If you can't hit a target at self defense ranges with a Hi-Point, don't blame the gun. You should be able to hit a target at self defense ranges throwing rocks. Mine might not be a target gun, but at seven yards it blows the 10 ring out of the target as long as I do my part.

    I'd like to know where you people find used Smith and Wesson 38's for "little more than a Hi-Point will cost you." I can't find one for twice that. I guess it's the same place that used to sell all those surplus Jeeps packed in cosomoline for $50.00 back in the day.

    Well yes, maybe not "crap" but not worth $6.00. I'll pay a buck for a burger from McDonalds, but if it costs $6.00, I'll go to fancy joint down the street. If a Hi-Point cost $150.00, it's a good gun for the money. If they charged $500.00 for the same gun, I'd buy a Glock or an XD. (Both of which I own by the way, as well as a Colt 1911.) What's so hard to understand about that?
     
  15. trader vic

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    Pro Hi-Point

    I've got one & I think it was my best $129.00 buy I ever made. I use it for a range pistol & burn up a lot of ammo without a problem. Maybe I just got a good one, but I wouldn't trade it. NRA PATRON LIFE MEMBER
     
  16. MachIVshooter

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    My sub-$200 centerfire collection (.25's and .32's omitted), not including the more recent purchase of a Star Super 9mm Largo for $155.

    100_0351.jpg

    That S&W model 19-4 .357 was bought for $199 less than two years ago. Pinned & Recessed, BTW. Around the same time, I grabbed a model 65-3 for $280, shown in this picture of <$300 centerfires:

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    Like I said, I just can't find a good reason to buy a Hi-point when there are so many good guns out there on the used market for reasonable prices. One can buy LE trade-in S&W 59XX and 40XX guns for $300 all day long. And for the Glockers, I just saw a 2nd gen 21 and 2nd gen 22 for $299 each last week.
     
  17. butters

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    I bought a Hi-Point C9 and so far it is ok. It only has 50 rounds through it with several FTF issues that I believe are related to the magazine springs being so tight. I believe it will be a fine firearm once it has been broken in. I think that with the lifetime warranty and relatively low cost these are good truck/backup or "I can't afford anything else right now" guns. My primary piece is a Firestorm Mini 9mm and as a spare the Hi-Point will fit the bill fine as long as the FTF issues clear up. The verdict is still out for me but I anticipate it will be a fine handgun especially for the price I paid.
     
  18. txcoyote

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    Hmmm, I guess guns are cheaper in Colorado than in Texas. Prices from two years ago mean nothing today. Like Cajun Bass, two years ago I bought a NIB Hi-Point C9 Comp for $105 just to see how bad they were. Around that same time frame, I also bought a *used* S&W Model 49 for $250, and felt like it was a good buy. At a local gun show this last weekend, the 'pre-owned' S&W J and K models were all in the $450-550 range -- prices all delivered with a straight face. New Hi-points were still in the $130-190 range. My Hi-Point has never failed to go bang in near 1000 rounds, and quite accurately too. I should clean it one day!

    Inexpensive and cheap are not the same. Like Hi-Points, Bersas are inexpensive, well-loved by owners, are very dependable and very accurate. Blowback design weapons have been around a long time and are simple and inexpensive to manufacture, compared to locked-breech weapons. Hence a lower price. If you can only afford a limited amount, appreciate a functional weapon, and want a life-time warranty to boot, then the Hi-Point is a deal. It's kind of interesting that the carbines are so popular while the pistols are whipping boys for non-owners on the gun forums.....
     
  19. DougDubya

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    Mach IV - YOU might not need to buy a HiPoint. But the average jamoke who makes minimum wage, isn't a target shooter, and needs something and doesn't know to shop around or pick up a fine used $200 Smith needs something that works, is designed specifically for that price point...

    and good god, who marred that poor Brigadier/Helwan with a dust-cover rail?

    And did you duracoat that nifty little Star?

    Sweet mommy, you need to start a thread just so we can talk about the joys of those two pictures.
     
  20. txcoyote

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    Hmmm, I guess guns are cheaper in Colorado than in Texas. Prices from two years ago mean nothing today. Like Cajun Bass, two years ago I bought a NIB Hi-Point C9 Comp for $105 just to see how bad they were. Around that same time frame, I also bought a *used* S&W Model 49 for $250, and felt like it was a good buy. At a local gun show this last weekend, the 'pre-owned' S&W J and K models were all in the $450-550 range -- prices all delivered with a straight face. New Hi-points were still in the $130-190 range. My Hi-Point has never failed to go bang in near 1000 rounds, and quite accurately too. I should clean it one day!

    Inexpensive and cheap are not the same. Like Hi-Points, Bersas are inexpensive, well-loved by owners, are very dependable and very accurate. Blowback design weapons have been around a long time and are simple and inexpensive to manufacture, compared to locked-breech weapons. Hence a lower price. If you can only afford a limited amount, appreciate a functional weapon, and want a life-time warranty to boot, then the Hi-Point is a deal. It's kind of interesting that the carbines are so popular while the pistols are whipping boys for non-owners on the gun forums.....
     
  21. dewage83

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    i will pick one up when i turn 21. probably just to see whats all the fuss about (neg. and pos.) of course will not be my first purchase but might come along with a nice g21 or 1911...in a caliber i dont have. depending on its brother.
     
  22. ddcarter3

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    I bought mine so I could pass my CHL class and really research my carry gun. But I will tell you this, I will keep my HP 40 long enough to send it in to have the slide replaced!
    I am no real shooter. However, I can hit a steel silhouette at 15 yards 9 out of 10 time rapid fire.
    I will report how much better I shoot with the M&P 40 Compact. Probably not much better.
    BTW the Hi-Point workouts have increased my arm strength. LOL
     
  23. outerlimit

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    Sometimes I think, for a cheap home defense tool, a Hi-Point carbine would not be that bad. Then I think again and realize that I can get a shotgun for the same price and it will be a lot better.
     
  24. conw

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    There are a lot of people saying bad stuff about the little guns, but I doubt they've shot one.

    There are "horror stories" about high-end Kimbers, but that's a QC issue that will happen in every factory a few times. Come on, if it feeds 2000 rounds reliably with no cleaning, is accurate (per the Shooting Times and other reviews), respectable caliber, and the right price, don't knock someone who wants one.

    To everyone who says "I can get this for trade-in" or "Why would you get it when if you look around, you can get something $50 more that's worth twice as much on a bad day?"

    Well...you, my friends, are not factoring in that time is a form of capital. Someone who doesn't have a handgun, decides they need one, and need it NOW can go to the shop and have a duty-ready Hi-Point and plenty of ammo for way under $200 and less than an hour.

    But...but...but...they could have got a better deal if they'd waited weeks and spent a few more hours! If only they had a good friend with an FFL, and had seen the CDNN deal with free shipping on a SIG, and could wait a little while for it to arrive...

    Well guess what, not everyone can! Hi Point offers a reliable, cheap, accurate sidearm that is available NOW at your local gun store. Please don't be a snob. Some people need what HP has to offer...maybe then they can worry about getting a purtier gun that is worth bragging about on THR, after they have their basic defensive needs covered.
     
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