Were they yelling "get him", or was it more like whispering "you get him" "no way you get him!"? It sounds like maybe they were just kids trying to get their courage up to be bad guys and they decided they'd wait for somebody a little easier to pick on. The only thing that worries me is maybe they wanted to get up the courage to steal your gun, and they might decide to go for it next time only be more sneaky about it. Just be careful out there!
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That's what it seemed like to me, deguello. Glad that everything turned out ok.
kd7nqb
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1. Thankfully your safe, thats what counts
2. I would have drawn the sidearm and kept it at low ready, its a sad state of affairs that you had to think about the legal ramifications of putting your hand on you gun. I wonder if your knowledge of the CJ system makes you more skidish on doing things that "could" look bad in court
3. With the tactical belt on your shoulder were you able to get to your OC?
4. Not sure where in AZ you are but if its Maricopia county I bet sheriff Joe would love to hear about this one.
2. I would have drawn the sidearm and kept it at low ready, its a sad state of affairs that you had to think about the legal ramifications of putting your hand on you gun. I wonder if your knowledge of the CJ system makes you more skidish on doing things that "could" look bad in court
3. With the tactical belt on your shoulder were you able to get to your OC?
4. Not sure where in AZ you are but if its Maricopia county I bet sheriff Joe would love to hear about this one.
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You know better than that. It isn't the touching so much as the message: "I have a gun and I'm thinking about whether to shoot you."
WeedWhacker
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Which is, in fact, bullcrap, because I go to a shooting range all the time with people having guns IN THEIR HANDS MUCH/AT ALL TIMES and I don't get that idea.
If that isn't good enough, the same applies out on BLM land.
The problem is that considering a person keeping a tool ready a crime is that it boils down to being a crime for making someone feel bad. Believe me, if that was a crime, you'd be in jail right now for even insinuating gripping a tool to be a crime.
If that isn't good enough, the same applies out on BLM land.
The problem is that considering a person keeping a tool ready a crime is that it boils down to being a crime for making someone feel bad. Believe me, if that was a crime, you'd be in jail right now for even insinuating gripping a tool to be a crime.
Dorryn
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+1 to everyone who said they would have drawn. "Get him" in almost every single context is a threat, it implies action is about to take place. I would also have been concerned about the proximity to your home. And how do you suppose they got there if it is the middle of nowhere, like your drawing seems to imply?
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*Which is, in fact, bullcrap, because I go to a shooting range all the time with people having guns IN THEIR HANDS MUCH/AT ALL TIMES and I don't get that idea.
If that isn't good enough, the same applies out on BLM land.
The problem is that considering a person keeping a tool ready a crime is that it boils down to being a crime for making someone feel bad. Believe me, if that was a crime, you'd be in jail right now for even insinuating gripping a tool to be a crime.
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*There is a prime example.. well said.
As far as your actions of that night go, guess you were right, but I think you left it too close to being possibly "dead right"
Let me walk that walk in your shoes: I work in a prison, I know there are some on the inside that would love some payback on me and, one's home location for just such a payback, ambush (after work) at night, would not be hard at all to have some buds on the outside find out and act.
I think you lucked out, nothing more and, had they made the "run at ya" in the dark, with the wind blowing, I fear that you would not have had time to pull your weapon and have a fighting chance, as you let "the fear of" Johnny Law over-ride your better judgement of who they are, why they may want to harm you, when you heard (your words) "Get em" twice!!
Personally, I would have had my weapon in hand, under my hanging coat, rdy for a fight, for life.
But that's me if I had walked in your shoes that night.
But, I'm glad luck was on your shoulder that dark night and you're well.
LS
*Which is, in fact, bullcrap, because I go to a shooting range all the time with people having guns IN THEIR HANDS MUCH/AT ALL TIMES and I don't get that idea.
If that isn't good enough, the same applies out on BLM land.
The problem is that considering a person keeping a tool ready a crime is that it boils down to being a crime for making someone feel bad. Believe me, if that was a crime, you'd be in jail right now for even insinuating gripping a tool to be a crime.
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*There is a prime example.. well said.
As far as your actions of that night go, guess you were right, but I think you left it too close to being possibly "dead right"
Let me walk that walk in your shoes: I work in a prison, I know there are some on the inside that would love some payback on me and, one's home location for just such a payback, ambush (after work) at night, would not be hard at all to have some buds on the outside find out and act.
I think you lucked out, nothing more and, had they made the "run at ya" in the dark, with the wind blowing, I fear that you would not have had time to pull your weapon and have a fighting chance, as you let "the fear of" Johnny Law over-ride your better judgement of who they are, why they may want to harm you, when you heard (your words) "Get em" twice!!
Personally, I would have had my weapon in hand, under my hanging coat, rdy for a fight, for life.
But that's me if I had walked in your shoes that night.
But, I'm glad luck was on your shoulder that dark night and you're well.
LS
mpmarty
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I sometimes wear a fannypack and at night when walking it is not a question of if I draw my weapon or not, I carry it in my right hand tucked behind the fanny pack, round in chamber and ready to go (PT145 da only). When I get into the clear or back in my vehicle and am under way I tuck the pistol back in the pack and zip up. In cases where I'm carrying IWB at night in dark I will transfer pistol to my right front pocket with my hand on it as I walk.
Armoredman - no offense but you don't know of those two incidents you were told of those two - and most likely so was the instructor - and the 200 people before him.
Again no offense but without hard proof I don' t believe those stories - I bet the instructoir was trying to make a point so that some newbie with a ccw doesn't go around brandishing or maybe the bum was tellin the truth?
Sounds like urban legends to me.
Glad everything worked out ok - most thugs like to hit from behind and with surprise once you took those advantages away that was what probably ended it.
Again no offense but without hard proof I don' t believe those stories - I bet the instructoir was trying to make a point so that some newbie with a ccw doesn't go around brandishing or maybe the bum was tellin the truth?
Sounds like urban legends to me.
Glad everything worked out ok - most thugs like to hit from behind and with surprise once you took those advantages away that was what probably ended it.
Archer1945
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I think people are missing something here. Armoredman is an LEO he is not a CCW therefore it would be hard for a prosecutor to claim he "brandished" his weapon, because it was already in plain sight on his belt, even if it was too dark for these "gentlemen" to see it. Maybe I'm wrong but if it had been me at the first "Get him" someone would have found a CrimsonTrace dot on their body.
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