TheDutchman
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Is it okay to carry with a round in the chamber?
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Assuming...
1. You have a good quality pistol in good repair.
2. You keep your finger outside of the trigger guard until you are ready to shoot (this means gun pointed at the target and sights roughly aligned before placing finger on trigger)
3. You use a holster.
4. You use the mechanical safety when provided.
...there is no problem whatsoever with carrying a round in the chamber. When you start violating these rules is when you will get a sudden loud noise when you really don't want one.
Note #4...some guns don't have them. If it is a good weapon in good repair, this is because it is not needed. Witness the DA revolver...no safety- no need for it. the DA trigger pull is stiff enough that it is not required. Witness the glock...a moderate pull, with associated other safety contrivances that make accidental firing impossible. However, with the latter don't violate Rule 3 of the Four Rules (or numbers 2 and 3 above)- that trigger is light enough that it can catch on something, or be tripped by someone playing around.
Mike
1. You have a good quality pistol in good repair.
2. You keep your finger outside of the trigger guard until you are ready to shoot (this means gun pointed at the target and sights roughly aligned before placing finger on trigger)
3. You use a holster.
4. You use the mechanical safety when provided.
...there is no problem whatsoever with carrying a round in the chamber. When you start violating these rules is when you will get a sudden loud noise when you really don't want one.
Note #4...some guns don't have them. If it is a good weapon in good repair, this is because it is not needed. Witness the DA revolver...no safety- no need for it. the DA trigger pull is stiff enough that it is not required. Witness the glock...a moderate pull, with associated other safety contrivances that make accidental firing impossible. However, with the latter don't violate Rule 3 of the Four Rules (or numbers 2 and 3 above)- that trigger is light enough that it can catch on something, or be tripped by someone playing around.
Mike
Island Beretta
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yes, it is okay to carry with 1 in the chamber provided:
1. You understand the mechanics of your gun and potential safety issues e.g.
no firing pin block- a drop could be dangerous: trigger setup- short stroke, light; cocked and locked- ease of safety disengagement etc.
2. Adhere to the 4 main rules of firearm safety.
By the way, the Isreali carry brings into play other variables and violates my KISS principle esp. in a high-stress, explosive DS situation. A grip slip on the slide for e.g. could result in a jam before you even get the first shot off.
1. You understand the mechanics of your gun and potential safety issues e.g.
no firing pin block- a drop could be dangerous: trigger setup- short stroke, light; cocked and locked- ease of safety disengagement etc.
2. Adhere to the 4 main rules of firearm safety.
By the way, the Isreali carry brings into play other variables and violates my KISS principle esp. in a high-stress, explosive DS situation. A grip slip on the slide for e.g. could result in a jam before you even get the first shot off.
stevelyn
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A pistol with an empty chamber is just an expensive club with an ammunition reserve that you may not be able to take advantage of. Reluctance to carry with a loaded chamber is a training/confidence issue.
As to the "Israeli" method, this has been debunked long ago. The Israeli method is not really israeli, but american in origin taught by an ex-marine that talked himself into a training gig with the Israelis. This guy's background did not have any specialized training credentials other than he was a Marine. So he taught the same old tired, inadequate crap that the military always mass teaches.........carry with an empty chamber "we'll tell you when you should lock and load" garbage.
As to the "Israeli" method, this has been debunked long ago. The Israeli method is not really israeli, but american in origin taught by an ex-marine that talked himself into a training gig with the Israelis. This guy's background did not have any specialized training credentials other than he was a Marine. So he taught the same old tired, inadequate crap that the military always mass teaches.........carry with an empty chamber "we'll tell you when you should lock and load" garbage.
Ala Dan
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The carrying of a self-loader without a round up the pipe could
prove hazardous to ones health.
Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
prove hazardous to ones health.
Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
eagle45
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I carry my XD with a round in the pipe.
michiganfan
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Always carry with one in the pipe and a full mag.
Feanaro
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One in the chamber is the only way to carry, IMNQSHO(In My Not Quite So Humble Opinion). A well designed pistol will require a series of catastrophes to fire without the trigger being pulled. Properly carried, an (extremely unlikely) accidental discharge shouldn't be life threatening. And I would not trust in having enough time to chamber a round.
Now whether YOU are safe enough to carry the firearm is a question only you can answer.
Now whether YOU are safe enough to carry the firearm is a question only you can answer.
spacemanspiff
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well yes and no.
if you wish to simply defend yourself from deadly harm, than yes, it is okay to carry chambered.
however, if you wish to look cool while doing it, then no. keep it unchambered so you can coolly unholster and rack the slide as you growl at the bad guys around the cigar clenched between your teeth.
if you wish to simply defend yourself from deadly harm, than yes, it is okay to carry chambered.
however, if you wish to look cool while doing it, then no. keep it unchambered so you can coolly unholster and rack the slide as you growl at the bad guys around the cigar clenched between your teeth.
PirateShot
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Cocked and Locked Only
With a 1911 like I carry, there is no other way to carry the pistol. The gun isn't going to go off without you taking the safety off and pulling the trigger. Took a while for me to get used to carrying it with the gun cocked and locked, but the gun was designed for that type of carry.
With a 1911 like I carry, there is no other way to carry the pistol. The gun isn't going to go off without you taking the safety off and pulling the trigger. Took a while for me to get used to carrying it with the gun cocked and locked, but the gun was designed for that type of carry.
22luvr
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Always one in the tube !!
As long as you keep your carry piece properly holstered there is no reason why you can keep ANY gun you carry chambered.
As long as you keep your carry piece properly holstered there is no reason why you can keep ANY gun you carry chambered.
joab
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If the gun is not safe enough to carry fully loaded ,it is not safe to carry
45Badger
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Cocked and locked 1911. Always. That's what the safeties are for!
trey gil
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Thank you all for your input.
Yes, I am safe as well.
As for Glocks, I know they are just as safe, it is my lack of experience with them that makes me nervous, that will change in time.
Special thanks to Spacemanspiff who makes a very good point, I will take it into consideration.
Yes, I am safe as well.
As for Glocks, I know they are just as safe, it is my lack of experience with them that makes me nervous, that will change in time.
Special thanks to Spacemanspiff who makes a very good point, I will take it into consideration.
TheDutchman
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I would not Mexican carry a Gock with one in the tube. My 2 cents
Marshall
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I have a good friend on the PD in my city and he says he has seen a number (not sure how many,3-4 probably) seats in patrol cars with bullet holes in them due to Glocks. Surely whomever was carrying them was doing something wrong ( I assume) but, still makes me somewhat uncomfortable. One thing is certain though, the holes were not made with any other brand.
Surely whomever was carrying them was doing something wrong ( I assume) but, still makes me somewhat uncomfortable. One thing is certain though, the holes were not made with any other brand.Any good holster will cover the triggerguard.
Any Glock will not go off unless the trigger is pressed. If you have your finger on the trigger and attempt to holster, you will make it go bang. This has happened (and can happen with other DA's including revolvers, and has)
Keeping the Glock with a round in the chamber and a holster covering the triggerguard you're fine.
Four years of daily carry in all conditions with one in the chamber and I still have all the holes I started with and no more.
Two instances where I needed to draw and almost did, not having a round in the chamber would have gotten me killed as both times the opponent(s) (multiple in second case) were very close and hostile.
Any Glock will not go off unless the trigger is pressed. If you have your finger on the trigger and attempt to holster, you will make it go bang. This has happened (and can happen with other DA's including revolvers, and has)
Keeping the Glock with a round in the chamber and a holster covering the triggerguard you're fine.
Four years of daily carry in all conditions with one in the chamber and I still have all the holes I started with and no more.
Two instances where I needed to draw and almost did, not having a round in the chamber would have gotten me killed as both times the opponent(s) (multiple in second case) were very close and hostile.
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