Man killed during dispute regarding Child Protective Services action

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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002182340_socialworker17m.html

Father slain after machete attack on social worker

By Jonathan Martin
Seattle Times staff reporter

A machete-wielding father was fatally shot yesterday after he attacked a veteran Child Protective Services (CPS) worker in the worst-known case of on-the-job violence at the state child-welfare agency.

The CPS worker, accompanied by a co-worker and a Ferry County sheriff's deputy, was investigating a complaint that three children were living in a home near Curlew without running water or electricity when she was attacked by the children's father, State Patrol trooper Jim Hays said.

Bryan S. Russell, 35, pummeled one of the social workers with a machete and a 2-by-4 as she lay on the ground before the sheriff's deputy shot and killed him, Hays said.

The worker, whose name was not released, suffered cuts, a broken arm and wrist and a possible skull fracture. She was admitted to Deaconess Medical Center in Spokane for a CAT scan.

"It appears it (the shooting) saved this worker's life," Hays said.

The attack chilled social workers across the state. State policy prohibits the 2,000-person child-welfare staff from carrying pepper spray or guns but encourages workers to bring along a co-worker or call police when their work puts them in potential jeopardy.

The agency does require workers to bring an officer along if they're going to take a child into state custody, and it's common in rural Washington to have an officer on hand during a CPS investigation.

The incident likely will prompt the state to reconsider worker protection, said Dee Wilson, a retired CPS administrator who now heads a family-policy think tank at the University of Washington.

"The concern has always been that a worker will get shot or killed," he said. "The potential is there, and it's there a lot."

Gov. Christine Gregoire, who represented CPS workers as an assistant attorney general, commended the injured worker for her 13 years of CPS work. "This incident reminds us all of the dangers that many state workers face every day," Gregoire said in a statement.

Russell, who lived near Curlew in rugged Northeast Washington, had a lengthy criminal record of assault and drug charges, and CPS staff had visited him at least once before, Hays said.

The three children — between ages 1 and 5 — were home at the time of the shooting, as was their mother, he said. The children were taken into state custody. The mother wasn't injured.

The deputy, Carroll Sharp Jr., fired "multiple" shots, said Ferry County Sheriff Pete Warner. The State Patrol is investigating, in part, because a state worker was injured.

Current and former CPS staff say the attack is the most serious in memory, although investigators say death threats are routine and less-serious assaults happen sporadically.

A survey of several hundred Montana child-welfare workers, published in 1994 in the journal Child Welfare, found that one in 10 had been hit on the job in the preceding year, and a third of the workers had faced death threats. A quarter of the surveyed workers feared their own families could face job-related violence.

Wilson, the retired CPS administrator, said his own survey of staff in southwest Washington found many suffered insomnia, anxiety and stress-related stomach pain. "Well over half had been threatened — their lives or their family," he said.

Concerns for personal safety, he said, have followed the rise in popularity of methamphetamine, which is linked to paranoia and violence.

"The concern is you're going to walk into a meth lab alone," Wilson said.

At most of CPS's state offices, staff members work behind locked doors, and some have security guards. But Seattle's King West office on lower Queen Anne recently lost its security guards in a budget cut, worrying some staff, said John Birnel, a union shop steward and social worker.

"It gives people in child-protection, where the situations are a lot more dicey, a pause for concern," he said.

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With respect to the aforementioned incident, I wonder if Mr. Birnel's use of the word "dicey" was intentional...

Oh well. Circle of life.

TM
 
investigating a complaint that three children were living in a home near Curlew without running water or electricity
So that's a crime now ......????????????? :rolleyes:

IIRC, families survived several thousand years without running water or electricity without any significant ill effects.

Seems like those deprived kids turned out a lot better too, having learned how to take on some responsibilities like hauling water and splitting kindling.
 
Seems like children are primarily considered wards of the state and only secondarily considered wards of the parents.
 
That is one job, among many, that I wouldn't want to have. If you do your job, you are stealing people's kids. If you don't do your job, you are accused of letting children be killed by abusive parents.

I worked as contract therapist for a couple of years and received most of my referrals from CPS. There were a few without running water and the concern was that the family was still using the bathroom and the toilet and tub were filled with urine and feces. This is totally different then having a well and an outhouse. I also went to houses where the children were sleeping in urine soaked beds, which is absolutely disgusting. Even animals won't sleep in their own urine. Why would parents do this to their children.

The attack chilled social workers across the state. State policy prohibits the 2,000-person child-welfare staff from carrying pepper spray or guns but encourages workers to bring along a co-worker or call police when their work puts them in potential jeopardy.

What good is it to bring along a co-worker? Maybe if they were armed it might make a difference.

Seems like children are primarily considered wards of the state and only secondarily considered wards of the parents.

I can't speak for all states, but I don't think this is true in any of the couties in MI where I have worked with CPS. Don't get me wrong, I have seen instances of stupidity among the workers, but it was rare and usually caught by the judge.
 
I dunno. Anybody disordered enough to attack someone with a machete who's standing next to an armed sheriff's deputy is probably not sane enough to raise children IMO.
 
The attack chilled social workers across the state.
Good, let THEM live in fear for awhile. I've seen first hand, and read of many many others cases, where CPS are drunk with their own "authority" and think they can do as the **** well please.
I dunno. Anybody disordered enough to attack someone with a machete who's standing next to an armed sheriff's deputy is probably not sane enough to raise children IMO.
People do foolish things when emotions run high, and I suspect the father saw the CPS worker as the primary threat to his family. One thinking more rationally would have removed the greatest threat (the deputy) first, then delt the lesser targets.
 
Good, let THEM live in fear for awhile. I've seen first hand, and read of many many others cases, where CPS are drunk with their own "authority" and think they can do as the **** well please.

I'd be interested in what you have seen. My experience has been the opposite where I have worked. If anything, I have seen CPS workers, despite strong evidence to the contrary, say nothing was happening.
 
This guy sounds like the perfect criminal I don't feel sorry for him at all.

It doesn't sound like the children were living in very good conditions.
 
There were a few without running water and the concern was that the family was still using the bathroom and the toilet and tub were filled with urine and feces.
investigating a complaint that three children were living in a home near Curlew without running water or electricity
Impossible to know for sure without being closer to the situation, but this sounds like a rural home with "old-fashioned" facilities.

I am so glad my kids are 18 now. Geez, when they were little we lived in logging camp :uhoh:

We have a good well and electric & phone at our place, but there are quite a few properties around here still "off the grid" and/or using a cistern (hauling water). The fact is that sometimes you don't get water no matter how deep you drill in this country. Other folks just move out into the hills with whatever they've got: coleman lanterns and 5-gal jugs. (plus a shovel, of course ;) )

There are no Sewer Nazis around here like there are in CO.
 
I used to work in the WA state agency (Dept of Social and Health Services) that included CPS as one of the divisions. The front-line workers in any of the divisions that had to deal with the public assistance "clients" have an extremely tough job to do. The rules as handed down by the Feds and how the state intreprets them are difficult to follow. Hell, the USDA Food Stamp program alone has over 5000 pages of rules and guidelines. And the caseloads of these workers can run to over a hundred families per worker.

The state does not pay these people anywhere near enough ($2200/month to start and you have to have a degree) and the hours are long and the abuse by the "clients" can range from simple disagreements to death threats. Oh, and the workers cannot carry a weapon because of agency policy. If the agency finds you have a weapon, you're gone. No appeal, no arguing.

There have been occasions where management directs the CPS workers as to what they can do. A worker may want to help, but sometimes lack of funding or a fear of a lawsuit may keep the workers from doing their job. Unfortunately, WA laws concerning child abuse are to the point that anyone can basically file a complaint and CPS is required to investigate.

Ever see a parent simply pat their kid on the butt if the kid throws a fit in a store? In WA, that is grounds for a complaint for child abuse and CPS will investigate. I remember when I was young, I could swear that my butt was bleeding after disobeying what my folks said or if I would misbehave in public. And back then, discipline like that was common and usually resulted in an immediate change in a kids attitude. Mistreatment? No, just a reminder of who's in charge.

CPS workers have one of the toughest job there is in the area of public assistance. I have heard first-hand from some of these people about how kids were mistreated, even beaten or living in absoulte filth. I could never do a job like they have. I would most likely go off on the parents and wind up in the big house.
 
When I first started as a prosecutor, I worked in Juvi., which meant prosecuting del;inquents and taking CPS cases to court. And, on occassion, I saw some CPS workers who were a little aggressive. But, as in every other area in life I have encountered, THEY ARE AN EXCEPTION, NOT THE RULE. Most were good people trying to help protect children while earning a living.

It was a CPS case that convinced me to get qualified and CCW. I was at a gas station filling up, my older son in the car. Car pulls up, and a guy gets out. I immediately recognize him as the grandfather of some kids I just got permanently taken from their parents. He and his wife tried to get the kids, but his history of molesting his own children kept that from happening. Anyways, he comes up to me and say something Art's grandma wouldn't like, followed by "you took my family from me. Maybe I ought to take that boy from you so you know what it's like." Only weapon was a Mag-Lite, but I held it tight while I called the PD for help.

I haven't been without a better weapon since, so long as I am able.
 
There are some rotten parents out there that shouldn't be parents, but there also some bad "Childrens Services" workers, too. I don't know the specifics of this case.....

That being said, in most states now, if anyone makes any sort of complaint, even an anonymous from a pay phone, the Childrens Services has to check it out.

That is a good way to take some sort of revenge on someone that has torqued you off...Just drop a dime to Childrens Services.

I know...the "ex" used to torque off folks on a darn near weekly basis. I spent waaaaay too much of my life energy fending off the Childrens Services.
 
I also went to houses where the children were sleeping in urine soaked beds, which is absolutely disgusting. Even animals won't sleep in their own urine. Why would parents do this to their children.

Well, I doubt the parents peed on the bed and then put the kids in it.




























:D :neener:

I know, I'm terrible... :D
 
I seem to recall a story of a woman being arrested for child abuse. Turns out her kids were a bit on the skinny side, and they were living in a pretty awful house. CPS tried to take the kids, and the kids set the dogs on the authorities. IIRC, the woman was released once the court found out that she had been arrested for being poor.

Some CPS folks are like that, I guess. I would wager that most are not. CPS workers do need to carry guns. So do postmen, firemen, roofers, bricklayers, carpenters, and anybody else with a pulse.
 
I don't want to get into the whole "government child protection" can 'o worms, but I do think that the assaulted CPS worker needs to sue the everloving bejeezus out of her department for denying her the right to defend herself. Massive lawsuits may actually get assinine policies like this done away with.

DanO
 
I want as little govt. as possible, but CPS IMO is one agency that falls well within the definition of govt. duties. Children often have no one to defend them except mom or dad, and when the parents are the perps, the kids only recourse is LE.
 
You know, the amount of child abuse and child sexual abuse by parents and relatives in this country is pretty staggering. I'm talking about hardcore molestation and severe physical abuse, not PC whining about spankings. And I'm pretty sure nailing violent criminals to the wall is one of the few legitimate uses for government.

Anyone notice that molesting children or beating them half to death seems to come with really weak penalties? Isn't that bizarre? Just search your local list of sex offenders in your neighborhood and see what I mean. If there is anyone I want getting barbecued, it's those people, but child molesters really seem to get off easy. :barf:
 
That being said, in most states now, if anyone makes any sort of complaint, even an anonymous from a pay phone, the Childrens Services has to check it out.

In MI, they have discretion to check what they want to check. If you called up and said that your neighbor was beating his/her kids and were vague as to what happened, there is a low likelihood of it being investigated. Additionally, the level of "investigation" might be somehting like a brief phone call up to actually going out and interviewing the parties.

I know...the "ex" used to torque off folks on a darn near weekly basis. I spent waaaaay too much of my life energy fending off the Childrens Services.

I've seen this happen and much more, especially in nasty divorces. I was able to convince the falsely accused parent to go to the police. The other parent was charged with filing a false PS complaint and stopped the accusations.

Well, I doubt the parents peed on the bed and then put the kids in it.

I hope not, but I am no longer surprised by much.

Impossible to know for sure without being closer to the situation, but this sounds like a rural home with "old-fashioned" facilities.

I can't comment on the bathroom in the article, but the case that I had mentioned didn't involve "old fashioned" facilities. I have stayed in some pretty rustic places and know the difference between having an outhouse and urinating in a tub or on the floor. Lets just say that one of the parents refused to throw out anything...and I mean anything.

Anyone notice that molesting children or beating them half to death seems to come with really weak penalties?

This is so true. I worked with a family where the father physically and sexually abused 3 of his children and he was out within 2 years. If he had kidnapped and done this to some other child he would be in for a lot longer. I don't understand why it is relatively ok to molest your own children. I have also worked with parents that received no jail time, just counseling. :fire:
 
Around here you pretty much have to do series harm to the child before they will do anything about it. I know a child that has been abused her entire life. The family doctor even exmained her and said it looked as if she were being sexually abused. Two years later she still lives with them. As for the running water and electricity, my wife grew up in the appalachian mountains in the 80's and used an outhouse untill she was in junior high. She laughs about it now, and I can see no ill effects from the tramatization.
 
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