Crusader103
Member
"Do you have any original thoughts of your own or are you just going to continue to quote others? "
Do you?
Absolutely. Experience tends to provide you with many original thoughts. You still haven't told me whether or not you have any original thoughts. By the way, I have answered nearly every one of your questions. Go back and read the posts. You haven't answered but a few of mine.
Nearly ever point you have made seems to come from Chuck Taylor's website.
Almost word for word.
You see, the funny thing is, that I had several years of experience before I ever heard of him. Turns out, we do think pretty consistently on a number of issues. Funny how people with experience tend to do that.
Is there anyone else--besides you and Chuck Taylor--whom you consider worthy of passing on knowledge?
Yes, just a lot less than purport to have knowledge worthy of passing on. Want another name since you asked? When it comes to rifle shooting I am pretty much in line with Maj. Plaster. Oh wait, he has a lot of real world experience as well. I'm finding a common thread here.
If point shooting is so bad why does Taylor teach it with long guns out to 8 yards?
I don't know, why don't you ask him? I don't know whether I agree or disagree with him on this subject. I would look at it closer. To this point I have limited my discussion to handguns.
Do you actually believe that he invented this concept?
Don't know. Perhaps his version of it. I don't shoot with exactly an isoceles or weaver stance. I guess I could call it the scott stance but I don't. I really don't care what anybody calls anything if it works.
How many gun fights have you been in?
More than one. More than two. And more than you. With your vast knowledge and investigative abilities I'm sure it's not too hard for you to figure out. You have visited the website. You know the military, federal, state, and local agencies I have worked for. FOIA requests should be able to tell you all you want to know. Well, at least a couple of them. Good luck with the others.
I only ask this because you are coming off as the reincarnation of Wyatt Earp with all of the answers, so it is only fair to ask.
I would never say that. All of the answers? No. Unless I am mistaken we have been talking about a single subject. The world of defensive firearms is much bigger than that my friend.
I am very humble about my experiences and it does not make me a hero. I shoot competitively and I don't think more than 2 or 3 of the people I shoot with know my background. You see, it serves no purpose in that environment. For those attending a training class, of course it does and I share it. On a forum where the idea is sharing and learning, of course it does. In contrast to Wyatt Earp, I am generally underestimated, understated, and unimposing. That is exactly the way I like it.
I wish I had never had to do it. You have seen me assert my experience and I can back it up but at what point have you seen me describe myself as leaping tall buildings in a single bound? I very much value real life experience and will continue to use mine to pass on life saving concepts to others.
( In fact most combat vets that I have met are loathe to speak about their kills, yet you and Taylor seem to wear yours as a badge of honor.)
Depends on the person I guess. I talk openly with my returning friends from Iraq and Afghanistan. I don't know of a single one who has failed to use their experience to teach others. If were talking about Vietnam Vets, yes, I've had the same experience that they are loathe to talk about it. Different time, different war. As far as cops on the street and the conflicts our military members find themselves in now, not so much. Most are pretty open, including myself. No badge of honor there.
Which leads to the next question--is everything you teach based on your experiences and those of Chuck Taylor's?
No, not at all. I simply don't name famous people in every one of my posts like you do. I take what has proven effective from many sources and adopt it as my own.
Lastly what makes you think that I lack experience dealing with violence?
Because to this point your greatest claim to fame is being a court officer. No offense to the men and women doing the obviously necessary job, but it sounds pretty boring to me. Most court officers I have seen are retired, private security guards. That's local to federal courthouse security. Yes, I looked up the NYC Court Officer recruiting website. I am not degrading the fine and necessary job that they do. It's just not what you seem to purport it to be. I know NYC Court Officers do a few more things but I wouldn't necessarily tout it as the tactical environment you do.
While I have never had to fire a shot in anger I have come very close several times, and was very happy when I did not have to take a life.
I have never fired a shot in anger either. I would caution you to not be angry when you are in such a situation. Your judgment will be clouded. That's the first thing I teach about the defensive use of firearms. Your attitude should not thrust you into the situation. It is the actions of the other party that will do that. I was as calm as could be when I pulled the trigger.
Sorry, being close is not the same thing. Unfortunately, most people just don't understand the realities of a lethal force incident until it happens. You can be prepared, you can train, and you can absolutely deal with a threat effectively without ever having done so before. But understanding it, that I would argue you cannot do. The world changes between the moment you begin to pull the trigger and the moment after the shot breaks. You can get awfully close through training and research, but you don't know.
I too value real world experience, yet you seem to ignore any that does not fit into your view of things.
Not at all. I just ignore faulty tactics no matter how many times it is touted by so-called experts.
Be aware. Shoot accurately.
Joshua Scott
www.FrontSightFocus.org
Do you?
Absolutely. Experience tends to provide you with many original thoughts. You still haven't told me whether or not you have any original thoughts. By the way, I have answered nearly every one of your questions. Go back and read the posts. You haven't answered but a few of mine.
Nearly ever point you have made seems to come from Chuck Taylor's website.
Almost word for word.
You see, the funny thing is, that I had several years of experience before I ever heard of him. Turns out, we do think pretty consistently on a number of issues. Funny how people with experience tend to do that.
Is there anyone else--besides you and Chuck Taylor--whom you consider worthy of passing on knowledge?
Yes, just a lot less than purport to have knowledge worthy of passing on. Want another name since you asked? When it comes to rifle shooting I am pretty much in line with Maj. Plaster. Oh wait, he has a lot of real world experience as well. I'm finding a common thread here.
If point shooting is so bad why does Taylor teach it with long guns out to 8 yards?
I don't know, why don't you ask him? I don't know whether I agree or disagree with him on this subject. I would look at it closer. To this point I have limited my discussion to handguns.
Do you actually believe that he invented this concept?
Don't know. Perhaps his version of it. I don't shoot with exactly an isoceles or weaver stance. I guess I could call it the scott stance but I don't. I really don't care what anybody calls anything if it works.
How many gun fights have you been in?
More than one. More than two. And more than you. With your vast knowledge and investigative abilities I'm sure it's not too hard for you to figure out. You have visited the website. You know the military, federal, state, and local agencies I have worked for. FOIA requests should be able to tell you all you want to know. Well, at least a couple of them. Good luck with the others.
I only ask this because you are coming off as the reincarnation of Wyatt Earp with all of the answers, so it is only fair to ask.
I would never say that. All of the answers? No. Unless I am mistaken we have been talking about a single subject. The world of defensive firearms is much bigger than that my friend.
I am very humble about my experiences and it does not make me a hero. I shoot competitively and I don't think more than 2 or 3 of the people I shoot with know my background. You see, it serves no purpose in that environment. For those attending a training class, of course it does and I share it. On a forum where the idea is sharing and learning, of course it does. In contrast to Wyatt Earp, I am generally underestimated, understated, and unimposing. That is exactly the way I like it.
I wish I had never had to do it. You have seen me assert my experience and I can back it up but at what point have you seen me describe myself as leaping tall buildings in a single bound? I very much value real life experience and will continue to use mine to pass on life saving concepts to others.
( In fact most combat vets that I have met are loathe to speak about their kills, yet you and Taylor seem to wear yours as a badge of honor.)
Depends on the person I guess. I talk openly with my returning friends from Iraq and Afghanistan. I don't know of a single one who has failed to use their experience to teach others. If were talking about Vietnam Vets, yes, I've had the same experience that they are loathe to talk about it. Different time, different war. As far as cops on the street and the conflicts our military members find themselves in now, not so much. Most are pretty open, including myself. No badge of honor there.
Which leads to the next question--is everything you teach based on your experiences and those of Chuck Taylor's?
No, not at all. I simply don't name famous people in every one of my posts like you do. I take what has proven effective from many sources and adopt it as my own.
Lastly what makes you think that I lack experience dealing with violence?
Because to this point your greatest claim to fame is being a court officer. No offense to the men and women doing the obviously necessary job, but it sounds pretty boring to me. Most court officers I have seen are retired, private security guards. That's local to federal courthouse security. Yes, I looked up the NYC Court Officer recruiting website. I am not degrading the fine and necessary job that they do. It's just not what you seem to purport it to be. I know NYC Court Officers do a few more things but I wouldn't necessarily tout it as the tactical environment you do.
While I have never had to fire a shot in anger I have come very close several times, and was very happy when I did not have to take a life.
I have never fired a shot in anger either. I would caution you to not be angry when you are in such a situation. Your judgment will be clouded. That's the first thing I teach about the defensive use of firearms. Your attitude should not thrust you into the situation. It is the actions of the other party that will do that. I was as calm as could be when I pulled the trigger.
Sorry, being close is not the same thing. Unfortunately, most people just don't understand the realities of a lethal force incident until it happens. You can be prepared, you can train, and you can absolutely deal with a threat effectively without ever having done so before. But understanding it, that I would argue you cannot do. The world changes between the moment you begin to pull the trigger and the moment after the shot breaks. You can get awfully close through training and research, but you don't know.
I too value real world experience, yet you seem to ignore any that does not fit into your view of things.
Not at all. I just ignore faulty tactics no matter how many times it is touted by so-called experts.
Be aware. Shoot accurately.
Joshua Scott
www.FrontSightFocus.org
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