Most Reliable 45ACP autoloader?

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Velocity229

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Could you fill me in on the most reliable 45ACP autoloader?

Wouldn't it make sense to have the autoloader with the least number of internal parts? :confused:
 
I have had 2 .45 auto loaders.

A 1911 made in 1913.
A Ruger P90.

I have fired many more, especially 1911's.

The Ruger P90 is 100% reliable. I have several thousand rounds through mine without a failure of any kind.

Now if you are asking what is the most reliable .45 autoloader for you. You are the only one who can decide. Go to a range and rent a bunch and shoot them. You will soon find which works best for you.

Krag,

Not trying to start anything, but you might want to check with the Portland, Oregon Police Department. They got rid of all of their Glock 21's a couple years ago. Seems they tended to go Kaboom on the practice range.

No, I do not have anything against Glocks, I think that in 9mm they are perfectly fine and safe. My main problem with them is that I have never found one that feels right in my hands. If I ever do, I would be just as likely to buy it as any other make.

DM
 
SIG P220 Never seen or personally had a malfunction.
HK USP Never seen or personally had a malfunction.
Glock 21 Never seen or personally had a malfunction.
SIG P245 had 1 malfunction when breaking it in. Could have been out of spec ammo.
Glock 30 Had a handful in thousands of rounds.
Ruger P97 Had a handful in thousands of rounds.
Colt NRM 1991A1 a little worse then above but still pretty reliable on the whole.

In that order.

Chris
 
S&W 4506 and 4516 never had a malfunction in over 15 years. Glock malfunctions were always the fault of the magazines or ammo. I always gathered up what they wouldn't shoot and put it through the Smiths. Not flaming just stating facts from police firing range.
 
The H&K USP I had was fully reliable with anything but powderpuff target loads.
My present P220 is fully reliable but I don't ask it to shoot SWCs because the previous gun of that model would not work with them at all.
 
My elderly Star PD and my newer Beretta MiniCougar 8045D have proven reliable during my range trips.
 
Checking the records of my personal 45’s shows the following:

(Note: 100% = gun functioned 100% from the box with all bullet types available in .45 ACP)

Star PS – 100%
2 X Star PD – Both 100%
3 X Sig 220 – All 100%
4 X Norinco 1911 – All 100%
PO P-12 – 100%

CZ-97B – one failure to return to battery with SWC during first 50 rds. (Note: 100% after 16# recoil spring installed.)

Glock 21- Ammo sensitive would not feed TCHP’s or SWC
Glock 30- Ammo sensitive would not feed SWC’s (Note: extremely accurate when hand feed 200 gr. SWC but would not cycle the load.)

AMT Back-up 45 – Total POJ (junk). Unreliable with everything from the get-go.
MAC-10 (open bolt) – OK reliability (only tried ball) but hateful to shoot.


Other 1911’s: All required a break-in period, along with some or all of the following; tuning, throating, magazine changes and/or extractor work (adjust or replace) before acceptable operation achieved.

Series 70 Colt GM
Colt Commander
Colt Defender
Kimber Custom
Kimber Royal Carry
Kimber Custom Royal
Springfield Trophy Match
Springfield TRP
SIT Trojan

JAC
 
It should be noted...the G21 is extremely reliable, but creates potentially problematic brass if not resized correctly.

My Sig 220/245 brass has no guppy-belly after firing...due to its more fully-supported chamber.

Having said this: the G21 never malfunctioned, and neither has my 220. My 245 burped once within the first 20 rounds of its life, and not since.

The G21 will run dirtier I have found. This is not a real benefit, however, in my mind. An improperly maintained gun is asking for trouble to start with, whether Sig or Glock.

Strangely, neither of my 5" 1911s ever had a single reliability issue either...with the occasional exception of failure to lock back on an empty mag...but my 4" Springfield "fully loaded" commander was highly tempermental.

FWIW,
Rich
 
I had a Glock 21. Reliability is way overrated for Glocks. Mine wasn't bad but would still have an occasional failure to eject. My Glock was certainly nothing to brag about and far from the "throw it in the mud, drive over it with a truck, then pick up and fire" like many of the Glock tall tales that are told. The two 1911s I have owned were better than the Glock in just about every way except cost.
 
The Sig P220 I currently own has never misfed, misfired, or misejected, period. This has been with hardball and SWC. An earlier 220 I had never malfunctioned with hardball but wouldn't function reliably with wadcutters.
I also had a Beretta Cougar that never bobbled with hardball. No experience with hollow points with either type pistol. I had early/late/or intermittant problems with the other .45's I've owned.
 
The only 1911's I have ever had that never malfunctioned are my three Norincos. Two have been customized and one is stock. All are tight, extremely accuarate out of the box. They also cost a third of what my Para ssp and Trojan cost. Go figure!

After the work I had donw on them the two I did work on now have as much into them as my Para. This won't last long because I am beginning to dislike my SSP sights and likely will change them out for Heinie's.
 
Another vote for the SIG-SAUER P220A! :) I shoot mostly 200 grain hard
cast L-SWC's from Magnus, and NEVER had a problem of any kind. Also,
I have found the H&K USP-F also to be utterly reliable. I've never owned
a G-21 or G-30, so I can't address those particular firearms. :uhoh: :D
 
From my personal experience --

Zero malfs, ever -- Ruger P90.

1 malf during first 50 rounds -- Sig 220ST

everything else is far behind.
 
I've had two G21s - between them I have fired literally beau coups thousands of Major P.F. loads in USPSA competition and haven't seen a problem yet. Several of our local PDs use the G21 and they love them.
 
I fired Kimber 1911, Ruger P90, Glock 21. Loved the 1911, liked the P90, didn't like G21. None malfunctioned. No problems. 1911 felt ergonomic and didn't kick much, also nice long barrel and good grouping; but, the trigger had a very short travel and was a bit too light, which made me nervous. P90 is built like tank; I think I'll break before it would. But, scattered a bit and jumped and kicked more than the 1911. Don't take my opinion on Glocks because they do not fit me well.
 
SIG 220s and a Glock 21

1953 Colt Goverment Model 1911 (they truly don't build them like they used to)

An older Springfield Mil-Spec 1911 that I bought second-hand, has about 750 rounds thru it without fail (all of it ball though)

And suprisingly enough, a Rock Island Armory 1911 which has been fed nothing but Wolf ammo.
 
I have two that have been 100% reliable - H&K compact and a Les Baer PII. My Sigs/Glocks/Kimbers/Colts have not always worked.
 
The Ruger, just for reliability and "clubbing" ability, would be hard to beat. I've had success with the G21. I'd give no credence whatsoever to the Portland PD G21 debacle. They used G21s for ten years or so, then had two explode during the same range session. One of their "firearms experts" (anybody really believe that there's a firearms expert on Portland P.D.'s payroll?) decided that the Glock design was at fault. White Labs, however, opined that bad ammo was the problem. Makes a lot more sense that it was the ammo, now, doesn't it?

I also find my 1911s to be totally reliable. Maybe I just got lucky, but I've fired thousands of rounds through my 1911s, with no failures that weren't ammo related...same with Glocks.

In a real life-or-death situation, a semi-auto doesn't have to be reliable for more than a few rounds, so must about any pistol that you've fired enough to become comfortable with will work for s.d. purposes. If, however, you're interested in the kind of reliability issues that might cause you to fail in a gun games session, then just observe what everybody else is using and what kind of problems they generally have.
 
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