My girlfriends irrational fear of guns

[Ross]

Poor Richard noted that "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still."
If you truly love this girl, you will not subject her to the unspeakable terror of being around you and your hateful guns. She will always fear that you will explode and go into a murderous rampage, as many do in the presence of weapons.
If you respect her, try to ease her mind by avoiding her and never frightening her.
It is the gentlemanly thing to do for her, and your selfless act will gain you points when Saint Peter interviews you for admission.
Cheers from Darkest California,
Ross

 

[recondoc]

300gr is a big self D round.

I won't ask if you're single. My wife has 230gr fidelity pills in her Colt and she is expensive enough. If I added a girlfriend on the side, I'd never be able to afford another gun.

Doc

 

[armoredman]

The first thing I bought my wife was a handgun. Now she also has an SKS. Cheating on her would be detrimental to my health....drastically....kinda love her too...

 

[sm]

One learns from mistakes - helluva lot less painful and expensive if learned from someone else's - My Mentors.

I cannot wait until the "toothpaste is squeezed wrong" and the "toliet tissue is on the roll the wrong way" - discussions.

Take notice of how she does the toothpaste and which way the tissue in on the roll. Now do it EXACTLY as she does so. Wanna bet she "discusses" how YOU are doing it wrong, and YOU need to change...cause she has decided to do so another way/ direction. Try it and see. Control - it ain't about guns - it is about control.

Oh...you parents with kids that handle the tissue with wet hands...all you have to do is go in before the kids have to go, get the roll wet. They find it ain't funny no more and stop doing it.

I may not have kids, or be married - but I ain't stupid.

 

[Turkey Creek]

Marriage is a crap shoot under the best of circumstances- the last time I took note, it was still a 50% failure rate- you feel one way now but what about next year and the year after that?- you're young and more subject to the raging hormones now than you will be later in life- and though none of the male species ever gets over it, when you're young your hormone faucet turns on a flood when she walks by with that motion that they just have to teach girls because I just don't see how it comes naturally - but the relationship will not last if intimacy (how's that for being politically correct) is the only thing going for you- what it boils down to is that you have to marry your best friend, and best friends do not make demands and do not try to change anything about you because they want you for just what you are now- my best friend and wife of 36 years this Tuesday doesn't give a hoot about my guns- she leans a little left but she likes knowing that when I'm not at home she knows exactly where I am, the range- and she doesn't bug me about the time I spend reloading when I could be in the same room with her- and I don't complain about any of her hobbies- you don't need to do everything together for a successful marriage- besides, she knows that if she ever said it was her or my guns the answer would be, it's been a good trip, sorry it's over, Sayonara!

 

[sm]

Oh me - I cheat.

I ask them to put tootpaste on my brush since we are in the bathroom together.

Tissue, I either hand it to them or just leave off the roll. " Didn't know how you wanted it put on...so I didn't...I don't do petty mind game arguments".

Usually get a grin and laugh...

I usually go ahead and ask her to show me how to take the trash out, then again I'd rather go walk the dog and let them do the trash bit.

Gets a lot stuff over with by the 2nd date.

The first date has already established that I am carrying ( if they didn't know already) and I will be sitting facing the door when out to eat. That one is not up for discussion unless, or until they CCW.

Still think you outta let her make it from point A to point B in a Parking lot with weird folks around...with only a cell phone.

Agree with best friend aspect of relationships. Still no warranty on that dealie either.

Dogs have unconditional feelings, you may upset one if you don't take them somewhere - like shooting , they will forgive and go on being your best friend.

 

[Mornard]

Your first two responders hit it on the head. My personal ideology is not up for compromise or dissolution. If we can talk rationally about this, fine. Otherwise, when the smoke clears - no pun intended - keep the girlfriend's number.

 

[Aguila Blanca]

Well gee, I guess having a gun for your protection shows I dont care? I love this girl to death. Im not getting rid of her or my guns. I will hide them if neccessary.

Bad idea. Very, very bad. A person should never base a relationship on deceit. She has given an ultimatum. Make up your mind, but be honest, with her and with yourself.

 

[.40-.45]

I must say again to the curb!!!!!!!!

 

[NikoFoxFire]

Now, I'm gonna ignore the relationship aspect of this post, because, that's between you and her. But, before you denounce all her arguments as irrational fear of guns, consider this. No house without a gun has ever had an accidental shooting. In the same way, no abstinent teen's ever gotten pregnant. Consider her worries, and offer her either A) A healthy amount of space (preferably of the padlocked variety) between her and what she percieves as dangerous... or B) Just leave the guns out of it! She doesn't seem to take offense to your having guns at the dept, so just store them there! Believe me, in any sort of self defense situation that you might domestically encounter, a gun won't be as much a help as hinderance (consider martial arts, or alternative security {A big friggen dog})

 

[Solo]

DU troll.....

 

[torpid]

(consider martial arts, or alternative security {A big friggen dog})

I did.

And after careful consideration, found them less effective in the end run for home self defense than firearms.



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[Solo]

Now, I'm gonna ignore the relationship aspect of this post, because, that's between you and her. But, before you denounce all her arguments as irrational fear of guns, consider this. No house without a gun has ever had an accidental shooting. In the same way, no abstinent teen's ever gotten pregnant. Consider her worries, and offer her either A) A healthy amount of space (preferably of the padlocked variety) between her and what she percieves as dangerous... or B) Just leave the guns out of it! She doesn't seem to take offense to your having guns at the dept, so just store them there! Believe me, in any sort of self defense situation that you might domestically encounter, a gun won't be as much a help as hinderance (consider martial arts, or alternative security {A big friggen dog})

1. No household iwith a car has ever had a car accident, so we should all give up cars, correct?

2. Dogs can be shot and killed, Martial arts is not practical if you wake up grogy at three in the morning without doing half an hour of warm up stretches. Real life is not liek the movies, and martial arts skills do not make you a godlike figure against an armed intruder. Not even Jackie Chan would go into a fight against oarmed opponents without a weapon if he had a choice.

Please crawl back under whatever slimy rock you came out of.

 

[dasmi]

Believe me, in any sort of self defense situation that you might domestically encounter, a gun won't be as much a help as hinderance

Would anyone who has actual experience using guns in a self defense situation like to refute this?

 

[Bentley8]

DBMF:

In regards to your original post, I add the small, simple observation:

The beauty of a woman fades, the beauty of a gun lasts forever.

In summation, I wish you luck in finding happiness. Sounds like you're a young man with a good heart and good intentions. You are therefore, "a catch", to many women. There are many women in the world, and many enjoy firearms. You are too young to saddle yourself with someone that will not make you happy. Please consider finding someone more compatible with you.

Good luck.

 

[chas_martel]

OK, by the time I got to this thread there where 6 pages of comments, so
I don't know if someone pointed this out.

But, you might want to check out what Sigmund Fraud said about people
that have an irrational fear of weapons. Something about being
sexually immature.

Might be other things for you to look out for..................

 

[larry starling]

Dump her she is a *****! She is obvious ignorant and you can do better.My wife had never been any where near a gun before we got together, and now she wants to go shooting all the time! Plus she is obvious a liberal or somthing worse!

 

[benEzra]

Believe me, in any sort of self defense situation that you might domestically encounter, a gun won't be as much a help as hinderance (consider martial arts, or alternative security {A big friggen dog})

And you base this statement on...what? Your own preconceived ideas about guns? Things you've read in popular-level articles on the topic?

How much experience do you have shooting or training with defensive-style firearms? If "zero," you might want to lurk a bit before making a statement of that nature, and perhaps examine the peer-reviewed criminological literature on the subject first.

And if guns are such a hindrance to effective self-defense or defense of others, why would his department go through the trouble of issuing them?

 

[Mastrogiacomo]

I've studied martial arts and will be going back. However, I'm still only 5'2" and 117-120 at the heaviest -- I'll keep my gun handy. Even Bruce Lee knew he was no match for a gun, and only a fool would believe martial arts would be an advantage.

Laura

 

[XLMiguel]

I've only been married for 23 years. Dated a lot before getting 'right' (so far) at age 33. There is no place for this kind of ultimatum in a healthy, balanced ralatioship. Indeed, if your values are properly compatible, there should never be a need for any kind of ultimatum. Cut your losses NOW, and move on.

I know it isn't pleasant or easy, but you've been given a gift - you discovered her agenda (and nature, i.e. controlling B----) before you bought in too badly. Women be like buses, there'll be another along in a little while. Get on one that shares your values. Thus endeth the sermon.

 

[River Wraith]

No house without a gun has ever had an accidental shooting. In the same way, no abstinent teen's ever gotten pregnant. Consider her worries, and offer her either A) A healthy amount of space (preferably of the padlocked variety) between her and what she percieves as dangerous... or B) Just leave the guns out of it! She doesn't seem to take offense to your having guns at the dept, so just store them there! Believe me, in any sort of self defense situation that you might domestically encounter, a gun won't be as much a help as hinderance (consider martial arts, or alternative security {A big friggen dog})

That's a joke, right? If it's not...I don't want to say you're a troll, but if the club fits, wield it.

 

[TechBrute]

No house without a gun has ever had an accidental shooting.

Except when the homeowner was accidentally shot by an intruder.

In the same way, no abstinent teen's ever gotten pregnant.

Except by rape. Pay attention now, this is relevant.

Believe me, in any sort of self defense situation that you might domestically encounter, a gun won't be as much a help as hinderance (consider martial arts, or alternative security {A big friggen dog})

Definately one of the more misinformed opinions I've seen in a while. I should get over to DU more often. I was in various martial arts from the time I was 6 until the time I was 25. I have a german shepard (albeit a pup) and have had Shepards, Chows, Rotts, and Mals in the past. I can say with a great deal of firsthand knowledge that none is a substitute for a gun.

 

[Aguila Blanca]

I wouldnt listen to too many of the people here. These are the same people who dont travel, and who told me I need to never go t NYC again sinc ei cannot legally pack there. I mean be realistic ya know? Im not going to sit home an huddle around my ammo pile.

That's not exactly the way it went down.

You posted a question looking for people to tell you it was okay to carry concealed into NY City even though you don't have a NY permit. People told you that doing so was dumb. It was pointed out that you do not "need" to go into NY City, and that if you want to go into NY City you can do so without packing an illegal handgun, and make an effort to avoid places where you would be more likely to need a handgun.

So because people here counseled you not to break the law and risk becoming a felon you now think you should tell other people to ignore the advice they receive here? I'd like to know how that line of reasoning works.

BTW -- are you still carrying illegally in NY City?

As for the "these are the people who don't travel" comment -- I have been to about half the states in the U.S. and at last count I think it was 13 or 14 foreign countries (excluding military assignments). I strongly suspect that I am a helluva lot more widely traveled than you ... but I still think it's downright stupid to carry illegally in a place that is known to be anti-CCW. But go ahead ... be "realistic" and do as you wish. Give my regards to Bubba when you meet him in the slammer.

 

[bbrins]

I feel I can change her.

Sounds to me like you both want to change each other. Neither of you love each other for who you are but for who you would like each other to be, I'm definately no authority on relationships, but this is just unhealthy.

If you decide to stick with her, stand your ground, if she is any kind of a real woman she will repect you more for standing up for yourself than wussing out. There are some things you compromise on in a relationship (who gets what side of the bed, who "really" owns the brand new car in the driveway, etc.), but not this, don't ever compromise on who you are.

I am by no means a relationship counselor, so maybe I have it all wrong and maybe that's why I can't seem to find the "right" woman.

 

[richyoung]

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