My take on the modern patrol rifle (post yours)

[henschman]

Miami, I like it except for the HBAR barrel. For the patrol role, you would be a lot better off with a pencil profile barrel. It carries, balances, points and handles much better. I actually put one together today with a Palmetto 16" pencil profile mid length upper. What a sweet handling rifle!

 

[jmorris]

The main role of course is defending one's self from a violent attacker;

I have never used any of mine for that role but as a handy critter getter that won't blow out your ear drums I use this one.

 

[ZDriver96]

I love that rifle rack in your vehicle lol.

A lot of nice set ups fellas. Although my set up isn't light weight, it gives me options and versatility.

LMT MRP w/ Battle comp 2.0, Geiselle 2 SSA, ambi charging handle BCM... USNV14 Night vision with a DBAL2... I leave both of these off during the day time but at night the combination is pretty awesome. USNV14 normally mounted to my helmet or skull crusher but for longer range shots I have the option of mounting it behind the aimpoint.

 

[Torian]

I've been in an Iron Sights mood lately. Depending on the application, I grab the Magpul 6920 or the LRB M14.

 

[TrickyDick]

I have a few choices.



AR Frankenbuild



Yugo M70AB2



Romanian PSL-54C

 

[henschman]

I have had the thought that a truck/trunk gun is more likely to be used in situations where targets might be using vehicles as cover. It is one application where the 7.62x39's increased penetration of hard barriers compared to 5.56 might be a significant advantage. You could get the same from .300 BLK, 6.8 SPC, or 6.5 G in an AR.

 

[Creature]

Quote:

Creature - There is a pretty dramatic difference in the angle of your pistol grips. Interesting, I had assumed that all AR grips were basically the same angle.

The top one looks like a MIAD. The bottom one is a BCM Gunfighter Mod 1 grip. The angle on the BCM makes the rifle much more comfortable to carry, which is done much more often than actually shooting. I've not noticed that it is more ergonomic when shooting/manipulating as the promotional material would have you believe, but it definitely reduces strain on the wrist when you're carrying the gun for extended periods. I'm slowly replacing all of my Magpul grips with Gunfighters.

I have found that a carbine is easier to maneuver in tight quarters with the stock kept short and the angle of the BCM grip works well for me.

 

[justice06rr]

My rifles are usually boringly reliable as well.





Colt6920 and Spikes Tactical M4

Saving up for an Aimpoint PRO and and Eotech to put on each rifle. Personally, the 3 essential things (besides good mags) that are needed on a good rifle are:
- Good optics
- Light
- Sling

 

[Dr.Zubrato]

Just wondering, do you guys feel the AFG is worth it? I know everyone has their preference, but I've really been thinking about it for two reasons, one being I do 99% of my shooting offhand, and two I'd like a convenient way to hold onto my MOE stock after higher than sustained ROF without gloves.
I'm rockin a KISS rifle, seriously bone stock except for a MOE grip, and MOE handguards, and iron sights.
Do you guys consider the AFG worth the cash, or is it one of those parts that you eventually remove and go back to stock config?

 

[blue32]

I've deployed my patrol rifle on a couple of calls, most at night. My rifle is a basic 16" CMMG lower with BCM upper. I rock a sling from an AK-47 and thats it. After rolling around in the dirt with it, running between cover positions, and looking down the irons on perps, I've never felt disadvantaged because it didn't have a light, one point sling, or any of the other doo-dads you can hang on it. Running with a full duty belt is enough and I don't need any more weight. It always fires when I pull the trigger too.

The only thing I'm saving up for at this point is a light for the foregrip because clearing a warehouse without a weapon light is a no go.

 

[Creature]

Dr. Zubrato wrote:

Do you guys consider the AFG worth the cash, or is it one of those parts that you eventually remove and go back to stock config?

You may find this thread going on over at the TFL helpful/interesting.

 

[C-grunt]

Here is my patrol rifle. Colt 6920, Aimpoint, VTAC sling, Streamlight SuperTac light.

 

[Torian]

Here is my patrol rifle. Colt 6920, Aimpoint, VTAC sling, Streamlight SuperTac light.

I like that paint scheme. Did you do it?

 

[jdh]

I prefer to keep it simple. 16" A2 upper in 6.8 on a lower with an Ace Skeleton stock. The other is an out of the box Rock River Operator with a light.

One of my coworkers had every gadget known to man added to his 16" extra bull barreled carbine. He couldn't understand why the thing weighed 22 pounds.

 

[C-grunt]

I like that paint scheme. Did you do it?

Some of the parts came off other rifles that were painted or a different color. I had to paint/return them back to black to use on my work gun. The rear Noveske branded sight still has a little tan on it. The Magpul forend was originally olive colored and I spray painted it black.

Any other colors that might be showing up are just reflections of the sun. It's a standard black Colt.

 

[Infidel4life11]

I'll play

 

[yzguy87]

TrickyDick, I like that upper you have!

 

[TrickyDick]

TrickyDick, I like that upper you have!

Thanks, it's a Grizzly LAR OPS-4 Side charger upper.

The Rifle consists of:

~Spikes Tactical Receiver
~CMMG FCG
~EFX Stock
~Grizzly LAR OPS-4 side charging upper, complete with a Nickel boron BCG
~Stag arms 20" HBAR 1:9 5.56 NATO barrel

I chose that particular upper because i have 4 other right hand charging semi autos, so why change it? plus i hate FA's.

 

[JShirley]

I believe the civilian equivalent of a patrol rifle should be a little different, especially in rural areas.
It should:
o look fairly harmless;
o be quick to shoulder and fire;
o fire a catridge capable of rapidly disabling a vehicle or killing a large animal.


I like AR15s*, and they have become our modern battle rifle. For my vehicle gun, I prefer my 7600 .35 Whelen, with peep sight and stock shortened to my LOP. God forbid I ever have to use it in an emergency, but even our media probably won't call it a "pump action assault weapon", and it can kill anything on the continent. Because it takes detachable mags, you can even have two different loads ready, one a heavy penetrator, and the other lighter, faster, and rapidly expanding.


*Wow. Did I just say that?

John

 

[Reloadron]

To my way of thinking this entire "Patrol Rifle" thing has been continuously evolving. To use an old business buzz term I detest Continuous Improvement. Anyway, my best guess is a patrol rifle configuration and the rifle itself would be chosen based on what one intends to patrol. I happen to live in the SE Cleveland, Ohio suburbs and I seriously doubt my wants or needs in a patrol rifle would parallel those of someone living 50 miles south of me in the Ohio farm country, let alone someone living in Whitefish, Montana.

The below rifle would likely be My Patrol Rifle:



I would be comfortable with that rifle and maybe 5 twenty round magazines and a sidearm of either a S&W Model 19 or a preferred Colt 1911A1 with 4 magazines. Obviously I am not very big on tacticool with whistles and bells. I was very comfortable with the above combination working many years ago for me and it served me well. Obviously it managed to keep me alive.

I also very much agree with John in that while I lean towards the AR family for my little urban warfare in my area my Remington 7400 would make me comfortable with a few magazines. Unfortunately limited in magazine capacity. Regardless there will be a sidearm included.

Just My Take....
Ron

 

[arizona98tj]

Having never had a job that required me to be on patrol with a rifle (lord knows I stood enough watches when I was in the Navy), I can't provide a comparison for having an equivalent to a patrol rifle.

That being said, I do have a favorite AR that accompanies me to my training classes and would also be my first choice if a situation required a carbine for a response. I've done some component upgrades to my S&W M&P15 but haven't hung much on it. None of the upgrades were inexpensive and all are manufactured by reputable companies, IMO. I've come to really appreciate the GripPod. The 3.5x ACOG serves me well from close contact out to 400 yds, the longest distance I've practiced at with this setup. The QD buttons on the VTAC sling allow it to be absent except when required during training. It is configured to provide those things I want in an AR.

 

[shrewd]

I don't have any pics with me but my ideal rifle, which I guess I'd call a patrol/defensive/fighting rifle would me my stag model 2. Fairly plain but I've put a seekins precision free float tube (I like to be able to reach further up the barrel and I have long arms) and a red dot. I'd like a light but haven't paid for one yet. When I have more money and ammo I'll prob put a hst wml on it and take a other course

 

[itsa pain]

these rifles belong in a combat zone not in the United States patrolling neighborhoods by police. personal use they are fine

 

[tomrkba]

We are responsible for every shot. Only controlled fire is acceptable.

I setup my rifles with a custom grips, ambidextrous safety if applicable, free float the barrel if possible and add an optic. The optic is the most important part besides reliability because it gives me the versatility to shoot from 5 to 300 yards.

 

[Officers'Wife]

The only patrol I have to make is for coyotes and my 92 Winnie does the job admirably.