New Ruger GP100 Shown at SHOT
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ArchAngelCD
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It looks like Ruger is trying to compete with S&W's M686 SSR for part of the game market. The M686 SR does sport adjustable sights though and a few other goodies.
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/...57769_757767_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y
That Ruger is a good looking gun. I really like the barrel contour but the grip frame looks a little funny to me. Maybe it's just the grips, I really don't care for Hogue grips.
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/...57769_757767_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y
That Ruger is a good looking gun. I really like the barrel contour but the grip frame looks a little funny to me. Maybe it's just the grips, I really don't care for Hogue grips.
red rick
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I wouldn't take a trip in the car you drive .
Own and drive a 2010 Expedition, 2006 Ford F150. Wife drives a 2009 Volvo
Salary is $103,500 a year. Educated and employed.
Home is valued at $419,000. I do not have all the latest and greatest electronics. No need to try and keep up with all that nonsense. 50 in flat screen bought 4 years ago x 2, basic Motorola droid cell phone, laptop is a 2010 Toshiba.
All I am saying is today I will not buy a hand gun for those prices. I have some sweet autos. But not over $550.00, granted I bought them 15 years ago.
Salary is $103,500 a year. Educated and employed.
Home is valued at $419,000. I do not have all the latest and greatest electronics. No need to try and keep up with all that nonsense. 50 in flat screen bought 4 years ago x 2, basic Motorola droid cell phone, laptop is a 2010 Toshiba.
All I am saying is today I will not buy a hand gun for those prices. I have some sweet autos. But not over $550.00, granted I bought them 15 years ago.
Inebriated
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Love Ruger revolvers, but good lord they just get uglier and uglier.
armabill
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Two things that I don't like about it- the price and the front sight. Regular sight would have been good enough.
rswartsell
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Hickock44,
I don't really care how much you make or what your house is worth, doubt anyone else does either. The bottom line is that for the vast majority of us, the opportunity to purchase at the prices you suggest in the current market might come once in a lifetime, or maybe never.
I can understand you being frustrated with the market conditions that result in current pricing but there is little or nothing that an individual can do about it but not buy. Effectively they are then disarmed. The majority of us will put up with some inflation and do the best we can.
Your tone makes it sound like you think the people paying current market rates are somehow less than smart, no-one is really gonna appreciate that. To me you seem either to be trolling or removed from the reality of the current market. Everything is "worth" what another fellow is willing to pay for it. It all starts out as dirty paper until value is determined in a marketplace.
P.S. Jeff Quinn really liked the action, part of the cost may be some extra love at the Ruger factory given the action for "action" competition.
I don't really care how much you make or what your house is worth, doubt anyone else does either. The bottom line is that for the vast majority of us, the opportunity to purchase at the prices you suggest in the current market might come once in a lifetime, or maybe never.
I can understand you being frustrated with the market conditions that result in current pricing but there is little or nothing that an individual can do about it but not buy. Effectively they are then disarmed. The majority of us will put up with some inflation and do the best we can.
Your tone makes it sound like you think the people paying current market rates are somehow less than smart, no-one is really gonna appreciate that. To me you seem either to be trolling or removed from the reality of the current market. Everything is "worth" what another fellow is willing to pay for it. It all starts out as dirty paper until value is determined in a marketplace.
P.S. Jeff Quinn really liked the action, part of the cost may be some extra love at the Ruger factory given the action for "action" competition.
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Snake Plisskin
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I agree rswartsell and sadly the days of reasonably priced new and used revolvers/pistols is gone, you can still find deals but as they say you never pay too much you just pay too soon.
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let's set prices on things like Venezuela does. It's doing wonderful things for their economy.....
The GP100 is a tank, built to last longer than any of us. With a few bonus features and the possiblity that Ruger is tuning it up a bit before sending it out the door, they have an appropriately priced gun. and my guess is they didn't just throw out a a random number to see if anyone bites.
Ordered one today. Should cost me about $760 after shipping and FFL. figured it is worth it for me. I have regular GP100 which cost me $590 (Christmas time), and I was going to do some work to it.
If you put wood grips, do action work and change sights - you will get close to Match Champion in price. So, I think it is worth it considering other goodies it comes with. AND... It won't tell me to read owners manual... Hopefully it will like lead better than other one
If you put wood grips, do action work and change sights - you will get close to Match Champion in price. So, I think it is worth it considering other goodies it comes with. AND... It won't tell me to read owners manual... Hopefully it will like lead better than other one
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Check the cylinder throats on that "other one". A jacketed bullet should pass through without force to be about right for lead at a grunt larger. It is a crude way of checking diameter but is sufficient. A number of my recent acquisitions were hopelessly leading, before I was alerted to this apparently common defect. The idea is to have the throats closely paired with the bore diameter but a bit tight on the lead bullets.
This problem is so common on 45 Colt, that Brownell's offers a .4525 reamer. Similar problems have occurred on my Smith & Wessons and Rugers both. They seem to be sized for jacketed bullets, since the official position outside casting circles seems to be that lead bullets cannot be used for magnum velocities. Even then the throats of my S&W 686 of recent production were too tight for jacketed bullets.
This whole thing about using lead bullets is about being aware of and getting control of all the variables as well as sorting fact from shibboleth.
This problem is so common on 45 Colt, that Brownell's offers a .4525 reamer. Similar problems have occurred on my Smith & Wessons and Rugers both. They seem to be sized for jacketed bullets, since the official position outside casting circles seems to be that lead bullets cannot be used for magnum velocities. Even then the throats of my S&W 686 of recent production were too tight for jacketed bullets.
This whole thing about using lead bullets is about being aware of and getting control of all the variables as well as sorting fact from shibboleth.
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Yes, I was aware of this. To make it lead-friendly I need to spend another $$ amount to rent reamer and ideally recut forcing cone to 11 degree.
If I like GP100 MC enough and if it will give me same issues with lead - I will do that.
OTOH - I don't know what the "problem" is. Yes, I do get some lead but I tried to shoot 30 or 150 rounds in a session and leading is no different. And it's accurate.
If I like GP100 MC enough and if it will give me same issues with lead - I will do that.
OTOH - I don't know what the "problem" is. Yes, I do get some lead but I tried to shoot 30 or 150 rounds in a session and leading is no different. And it's accurate.
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