Northern Tactical Unis Ginex primers

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GeoDudeFlorida said:
I mailed a letter to Pennsylvania on the 24th of February - 1st class stamped letter - and it still hasn’t arrived. We’ll see how shipping goes and that will determine what gets where by when.
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Fwiw I;ve been waiting on something from the Md Courts for about 6 months now..
 
PADoubleX said:
I just spoke to Jill at TriFusion Tactical. They have disable ordering links on their site. They are putting together a “save my spot in line” program. Essentially you send them an email and you will recieve details: cost is unknown at the moment, delivery date “will be loosely defined”, cost will be 50% down.
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Paying 50% of an "undefined amount" with a "loosely defined" delivery date sounds a little unorthodox to me, but these are weird times.

Does anyone here have a history of successful orders with TriFusion Tactical?
 
Hopefully we don't see too much of a delay in shipping from NFT with the weather that's coming in. I can't imagine it would be fun unloading a boat in stormy conditions. That of course depends on if what Noah said about the timelines/locations holds any weight.
 
Orange bought me a Labradar unit and I suspect sleepy will buy me a shiny new bobble that goes BANG!

Bill
 
Hey everyone. Back with an update, and for those not on here I will also be sending out an email to everyone who placed an order. We are headed up to meet our supplier today and go over paperwork, legal docs, CFR49 items and meeting with our FAET lawyer to make sure everything is ready to go. Ship is still not in the harbor but should be by the weekend, so we are a bit behind our projection. Today's meeting will hopefully allow us to reevaluate the timeline to a date with some more accuracy. I know everyone is busting teeth biting bullets for this to ship out already, but please bear with us and hang on while we work out the final details. Primers are coming your way. I read the above posts and see you guys are putting a wager on timelines. Very nice. I'm excited to see who gets the pot on that one! If you have any questions for me, I'm actually going to have to ask you to direct them here since my email has been overloaded recently and I've got too many things to keep my focus on to reply to them for the time being. I'll come back here periodically and get some answers out to you as time permits. For those wondering how they are packed, they are in what my supplier calls, Battle Bricks. Vacuum sealed bricks of 1000. We will be shipping them in the same packaging and will not be opening more than one of these to verify product quality. First shipment in will be 1.5M since you were all wondering why I shut down the presale. An import permit is expensive and takes time to set up, and is only valid for 2 years after issuance. Anyone engaged in importing will space out the delivery of items according to total quantity divided by timeline, or something close to that, which gives them time to figure out how many should be on the next permit. We have a lot of items on this permit, not just primers and bringing too many of any item over a border raises red flags to Customs and ATF agents. We'd like to fly as low under the radar as possible. That's all for now. Please exercise patience. We will come through.

-Noah
 
@NorthForkTactical Noah thank you for the update! I appreciate you and your dad putting the risk out there on this venture. Obviously, you have to get primers here while the market is still underserved. The 1.5M primers for the first order prudent given the risk of getting them here and the market correcting and you both being faced with high priced primers relative to the market.

I wish you both well, and look forward to receiving the primers I ordered. It will be nice if you can get primers from Ginex in the future in normal primer cost times at a cost that can keep these inventory channels open so that we can have another supplier of primers here in America.

I know the ports are messed up this year with COVID, so I anticipate you will have some delays in getting the container ship a slot in the schedule as they are backlogged on the west coast with loadings and unloadings.

It looks like you and your dad stand to make $0.02-0.025 per primer after dealing with import and overhead costs out of the deal, and for that I'm happy. Your initiative and willingness to risk will be rewarded; and that is a good thing to make it justifiable for future business. :thumbup:
 
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NorthForkTactical said:
Hey everyone. Back with an update, and for those not on here I will also be sending out an email to everyone who placed an order. We are headed up to meet our supplier today and go over paperwork, legal docs, CFR49 items and meeting with our FAET lawyer to make sure everything is ready to go. Ship is still not in the harbor but should be by the weekend, so we are a bit behind our projection. Today's meeting will hopefully allow us to reevaluate the timeline to a date with some more accuracy. I know everyone is busting teeth biting bullets for this to ship out already, but please bear with us and hang on while we work out the final details. Primers are coming your way. I read the above posts and see you guys are putting a wager on timelines. Very nice. I'm excited to see who gets the pot on that one! If you have any questions for me, I'm actually going to have to ask you to direct them here since my email has been overloaded recently and I've got too many things to keep my focus on to reply to them for the time being. I'll come back here periodically and get some answers out to you as time permits. For those wondering how they are packed, they are in what my supplier calls, Battle Bricks. Vacuum sealed bricks of 1000. We will be shipping them in the same packaging and will not be opening more than one of these to verify product quality. First shipment in will be 1.5M since you were all wondering why I shut down the presale. An import permit is expensive and takes time to set up, and is only valid for 2 years after issuance. Anyone engaged in importing will space out the delivery of items according to total quantity divided by timeline, or something close to that, which gives them time to figure out how many should be on the next permit. We have a lot of items on this permit, not just primers and bringing too many of any item over a border raises red flags to Customs and ATF agents. We'd like to fly as low under the radar as possible. That's all for now. Please exercise patience. We will come through.

-Noah
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Thanks for the update Noah. Appreciate your hard work in this process.

LOL@Mark_Mark
 
BreechFace said:
@NorthForkTactical Noah thank you for the update! I appreciate you and your dad putting the risk out there on this venture. Obviously, you have to get primers here while the market is still underserved. The 1.5M primers for the first order prudent given the risk of getting them here and the market correcting and you both being faced with high priced primers relative to the market.

I wish you both well, and look forward to receiving the primers I ordered. It will be nice if you can get primers from Ginex in the future in normal primer cost times at a cost that can keep these inventory channels open so that we can have another supplier of primers here in America.

I know the ports are messed up this year with COVID, so I anticipate you will have some delays in getting the container ship a slot in the schedule as they are backlogged on the west coast with loadings and unloadings.

It looks like you and your dad stand to make $0.20-0.25 per primer after dealing with import and overhead costs out of the deal, and for that I'm happy. Your initiative and willingness to risk will be rewarded; and that is a good thing to make it justifiable for future business. :thumbup:
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.20 - .25 per primer? We’re paying 06 each. I personally do not care how much Noah is making. He’s providing a channel that is much cheaper than I have.

and your only calculating gross profit, we have no idea what his overhead is.
 
NorthForkTactical said:
Hey everyone. Back with an update, and for those not on here I will also be sending out an email to everyone who placed an order. We are headed up to meet our supplier today and go over paperwork, legal docs, CFR49 items and meeting with our FAET lawyer to make sure everything is ready to go. Ship is still not in the harbor but should be by the weekend, so we are a bit behind our projection. Today's meeting will hopefully allow us to reevaluate the timeline to a date with some more accuracy. I know everyone is busting teeth biting bullets for this to ship out already, but please bear with us and hang on while we work out the final details. Primers are coming your way. I read the above posts and see you guys are putting a wager on timelines. Very nice. I'm excited to see who gets the pot on that one! If you have any questions for me, I'm actually going to have to ask you to direct them here since my email has been overloaded recently and I've got too many things to keep my focus on to reply to them for the time being. I'll come back here periodically and get some answers out to you as time permits. For those wondering how they are packed, they are in what my supplier calls, Battle Bricks. Vacuum sealed bricks of 1000. We will be shipping them in the same packaging and will not be opening more than one of these to verify product quality. First shipment in will be 1.5M since you were all wondering why I shut down the presale. An import permit is expensive and takes time to set up, and is only valid for 2 years after issuance. Anyone engaged in importing will space out the delivery of items according to total quantity divided by timeline, or something close to that, which gives them time to figure out how many should be on the next permit. We have a lot of items on this permit, not just primers and bringing too many of any item over a border raises red flags to Customs and ATF agents. We'd like to fly as low under the radar as possible. That's all for now. Please exercise patience. We will come through.

-Noah
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Thanks Noah! Appreciate all you are doing!
 
NorthForkTactical said:
Hey everyone. Back with an update, and for those not on here I will also be sending out an email to everyone who placed an order. We are headed up to meet our supplier today and go over paperwork, legal docs, CFR49 items and meeting with our FAET lawyer to make sure everything is ready to go. Ship is still not in the harbor but should be by the weekend, so we are a bit behind our projection. Today's meeting will hopefully allow us to reevaluate the timeline to a date with some more accuracy. I know everyone is busting teeth biting bullets for this to ship out already, but please bear with us and hang on while we work out the final details. Primers are coming your way. I read the above posts and see you guys are putting a wager on timelines. Very nice. I'm excited to see who gets the pot on that one! If you have any questions for me, I'm actually going to have to ask you to direct them here since my email has been overloaded recently and I've got too many things to keep my focus on to reply to them for the time being. I'll come back here periodically and get some answers out to you as time permits. For those wondering how they are packed, they are in what my supplier calls, Battle Bricks. Vacuum sealed bricks of 1000. We will be shipping them in the same packaging and will not be opening more than one of these to verify product quality. First shipment in will be 1.5M since you were all wondering why I shut down the presale. An import permit is expensive and takes time to set up, and is only valid for 2 years after issuance. Anyone engaged in importing will space out the delivery of items according to total quantity divided by timeline, or something close to that, which gives them time to figure out how many should be on the next permit. We have a lot of items on this permit, not just primers and bringing too many of any item over a border raises red flags to Customs and ATF agents. We'd like to fly as low under the radar as possible. That's all for now. Please exercise patience. We will come through.

-Noah
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I did receive an email, thank you very much for all your doin!
 
We Americans are snobs. Before the shortage, Unis Ginex have been imported... and get blown out at a discount because shooters prefer to pay a few bucks more for the US made primers. So in a “normal” market there may not be demand. Just like when S&B used to be on the market.

But, in this market, it’s hard to imagine primer stocks normalizing for quite some time, given the ammo backlogs.

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I have a question, Noah.

Are the primers you are importing the traditional recipe, or are they the “green” lead-free type? It seems U.G. manufactures both.
 
Mosin77 said:
We Americans are snobs. Before the shortage, Unis Ginex have been imported... and get blown out at a discount because shooters prefer to pay a few bucks more for the US made primers. So in a “normal” market there may not be demand. Just like when S&B used to be on the market.

But, in this market, it’s hard to imagine primer stocks normalizing for quite some time, given the ammo backlogs.

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I have a question, Noah.

Are the primers you are importing the traditional recipe, or are they the “green” lead-free type? It seems U.G. manufactures both.
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I have a couple of bricks of Tula LRP. I hear what you're saying but it's not accurate to say, "We Americans." No prejudice on my behalf or millions of others. If it goes bang, and fits the primer pocket, I'll try it out. Do we prefer to buy American? Sure, but that's not always practical.

Tula had a bad rap for their older stocks of corrosive primers but those went bang, too. I tried them out because... why not?
 
Mosin77 said:
We Americans are snobs. Before the shortage, Unis Ginex have been imported... and get blown out at a discount because shooters prefer to pay a few bucks more for the US made primers. So in a “normal” market there may not be demand. Just like when S&B used to be on the market.

But, in this market, it’s hard to imagine primer stocks normalizing for quite some time, given the ammo backlogs.

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I have a question, Noah.

Are the primers you are importing the traditional recipe, or are they the “green” lead-free type? It seems U.G. manufactures both.
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Somewhere in this process (I believe it was on the primer preorder thread before this one), a person mentioned he thought they were "green" lead-free. But best to confirm with noah.
 
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I think many will be surprised when they find their box of 1000 primers is just that: a box with 1000 primers inside.

Not individually separated in neat trays.

Just a box, with a vacuum packed bag of primers inside.

That's the only way I've seen UG primers. I could be incorrect in this instance, but that's what I've seen in past years.
 
Hooda Thunkit said:
I think many will be surprised when they find their box of 1000 primers is just that: a box with 1000 primers inside.

Not individually separated in neat trays.

Just a box, with a vacuum packed bag of primers inside.

That's the only way I've seen UG primers. I could be incorrect in this instance, but that's what I've seen in past years.
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isn’t that dangerous? primers bumping on each other. Like TNT, one drop on a hard surface and it could chain explode
 
Mark_Mark said:
isn’t that dangerous? primers bumping on each other. Like TNT, one drop on a hard surface and it could chain explode
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Several years ago a friend participated in a group buy of UG primers. Order was in 5k increments.

He got 4 boxes of 5000 primers. Loose in the box. Factory sealed, it looked to me.

Gave me the shivers just looking at the open box.
 
Hooda Thunkit said:
Several years ago a friend participated in a group buy of UG primers. Order was in 5k increments.

He got 4 boxes of 5000 primers. Loose in the box. Factory sealed, it looked to me.

Gave me the shivers just looking at the open box.
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wow! people do thing differently in other places, I guess
 
Hooda Thunkit said:
Several years ago a friend participated in a group buy of UG primers. Order was in 5k increments.

He got 4 boxes of 5000 primers. Loose in the box. Factory sealed, it looked to me.

Gave me the shivers just looking at the open box.
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Bosnians love US westerns, John Wayne is their hero so I hear. Remember Rio Bravo? Throwing dynamite at the bad guys hold up in a building until they ran out to get shot?

Loose primers? No problem!
 
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