Dorryn
Member
Ok. About 6 months ago, I asked if I was allowed to CCW on campus (I am working on my Masters) and I was told by the President that no, I was not allowed to. Fine, I said ill just have to suck it up and be a sheep. Last week, I figured I would do some research, and lo and behold, I discovered that I *could* CCW on campus with permission of the President. So, I wrote a new letter requesting permission. Several days later, I got a reply from the Vice President on behalf of the president. He didnt argue, just said no, etc etc. That letter is also included below. My question is this:
Should I give up and once again just be a sheep for a few more months until I get a degree? Is there any point in replying? Should I attempt to argue a pro-gun position? Should I threaten suit or even imply legal means if I were to be attacked as a result of their policy? Would it be rude or in any way "non-THR" to bother replying? I dont want to insult or offend, especially if it appears theyve made up their minds. It would also be a waste of time to craft a response if they wont bother to read it. Obviously, the position the university has is a little ignorant, but so are most universities. I just want to do the right thing.
Names changed to protect the ignorant.
Should I give up and once again just be a sheep for a few more months until I get a degree? Is there any point in replying? Should I attempt to argue a pro-gun position? Should I threaten suit or even imply legal means if I were to be attacked as a result of their policy? Would it be rude or in any way "non-THR" to bother replying? I dont want to insult or offend, especially if it appears theyve made up their minds. It would also be a waste of time to craft a response if they wont bother to read it. Obviously, the position the university has is a little ignorant, but so are most universities. I just want to do the right thing.
Names changed to protect the ignorant.
My Letter:
Dr. XXXXXXXXXXXXXX,
We previously corresponded approximately 6 months ago regarding myself seeking permission to concealed carry a firearm on campus.
At that time, you denied me permission to do so. As I mentioned in my previous email, I am a former United States Marine. In addition, I have a valid Concealed Carry Permit with the State of NY.
In light of the recent tragedies at Virginia Tech, I believe it is imperative that some students be armed in order to forestall tragedies of the magnitude that occured there. An armed student can stop or limit the damage and severity of these incidents, especially when trained to the degree to which I have been. U.S. Security, the security staff employed by XXXXXXXXXXX University, is not prepared to act in any manner which could protect my fellow students, a fact which I can confirm as a prior employee of said company. As you are no doubt aware, XXXXXXXXXXXX University is close to several areas listed as high-crime/violence areas in the city of Buffalo, and I am concerned for my safety as well as those of other students.
Regarding the legality of such:
Concealed Carry is illegal at Educational facilities, but you can be exempted if you have the permission of the administrator. Carrying on school grounds without permission is Criminal Possession of a Weapon in the fourth degree, a Class A misdemeanor. (See Penal Law §265.01[3])
Therefore, I am writing again to respectfully request permission to carry on campus. I am of course willing to show proof and documentation of these documents (permit, proof of ownership, NYS Drivers License, expired military ID) and file photocopies with your office.
Sincerely,
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
The Response:
XXXXXXX,
XXXXXXXXXXXX has been in communication with me in relation to your request to carry a weapon on campus. She has also asked me to reply back to you.
The college policy forbids any type of weapon on campus and we are going to continue with that policy. Thus your request is denied.
While we all deeply felt the tragedy at Virginia Tech, and are obviously concerned about the safety of our own students and employees we will continue to stand by our policy on weapons. At the same time we are reviewing our emergency policies and procedures so that we may better respond to any and all emergencies on campus.
I appreciate your concern, and thank you for expressing it to the college.
Sincerely,
XXXXXXXXX
Vice President for Student Affairs
& Enrollment Management