open carry...should or shouldn't?

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If I could get a permit to carry concealed, then I would carry concealed. The ignorant cops in my parts hassle folks who open carry, even though it's legal in my county. I don't have the time to deal with the nonsense. Maybe if I were retired, I would have time. I don't carry outside of my home at all.
 
Its interesting that you compare open carry to "fantasy land" yet you make the argument that CC is safer, which has been proven to be completely false everywhere that both carry types are legal.


by who? I'd like to see the link for that.
 
by who? I'd like to see the link for tha

John Lott and others have been looking at this for years in great detail and there has not been shown to be any increase in violence aimed at open carrying armed citizen in any of the states where it is legal.

Dig through the books on the subject, it's been covered multiple times.

It's the same as concealed carry opponents, screaming of "blood flowing in the streets", then of course it never does.
 
My post were basically saying whatever you prefer........it's just not for me. I would only conceal, that's all.
 
Use Common Sense

Like many others, I do BOTH. In my home state Open Carry is legally permitted. I do find that when I open carry, very few even noitce - and those that do don't seem alarmed at all. I do believe (as others have said) that general appearance and neatness of dress add to the situation.

While I carry concealed the majority of the time and open carry at others, I believe 'Common Sense' must be your guide. Consider the places you're going, and whether or not your mode of carry will make others concerned or give you an opportunity to educate them about the Right to Carry.
 
yes i do know that, but thats not the point.

The fact is his creditabilty is gone. If it was not for the fact that YOU WANT TO BELEAVE HIM, you would not.
If he was on the "otherside" would you trust him?
 
Here's the opening paragraph in the site you claimed proves Lott "recanted."

John Lott is a right-wing author who has made claims about the benefits of guns using fabricated evidence. To support his points on the Internet, he adopts various pseudonyms (known as sock puppets) who write in supporting John Lott and giving his books good reviews

Tab, go back where you came from -- we know what you are. You aren't fooling anyone.
 
if you had bothered to actually click the 1st link on that page( or any of the others.)

You do realize that all of that stuff is from over 13 years ago right? And that crime statistics and studies HAVE been done since then?
 
From your second cite:

Lott reckons that the carry law caused a reduction of 8% in murders, 5% in rapes, 7% in aggravated assaults and 2% in robberies. For Dade county that translates to 1,500 fewer aggravated assaults, 450 fewer robberies, 65 fewer rapes and 30 fewer murders each year. From Cramer and Kopel’s paper on CCW (TN Law Review v 62p733) one learns that “the police kept track of every known incident involving [Dade] county’s more than 21,000 handgun permitees over a six-year period.” and there were 12 defensive gun uses by CCW holders against persons known to the police over the six year period. That’s two per year.

It does not seem highly plausible that those two uses prevented 2,000 crimes.

The answer is that criminals much less likely to risk it when citizens can carry -- as Lott points out and shows statistically.

You keep pulling up biased crap like this, instead of substantive material, and I'm going to wonder if you are veracity challenged and your nether garments are ablaze.:neener:
 
Hey Treo is this new:

I look at it this way If I was a Robber and there was Two Houses in front of me, The One on the Right has a Rifle sticking out the Window, The house on the Left will be the one I rob.:)
 
Lott isn't the only individual who has done done these types of studies.
Gary Kleck of the University of Florida has done similar studies, and reached conclusions similar to Lott.
In fact, Kleck started out trying to prove that guncontrol would lower crime rates, but was intellectually honest enough to admit that when he compiled the evidence and crunched the numbers, the reality didn't support his initial hypothesis.
In the mid eighteenth century, Cesare Beccaria, a european criminologist also concluded that laws that prohibited the carrying of arms only improved the criminals' chances of completing their crimes.
Thomas Jefferson, IIRC, quoted him on atleast one occasion.
I have heard that there have been attempts to discredit John Lott; the referenced sight here seems to be a Wikipedia source which causes me to atleast suspect it's bona fides. In anycase, he was part of a study conducted by the University of Chicago along with a Dr. Mustard ... has he been similarly discredited, I wonder?


This is the sort of thing that happens when you try to do statistical studies and crunch numbers to defend a God-given Constitutionally provided for right.:uhoh::scrutiny:
 
For years the antis have been trying to discredit Lott and similar scholars, and they've failed. That didn't stop them, though -- they just change their tactics, resorting to lies and sniping like the cites TAP posted.
 
Open Carry Advocate

I think that OC and CC both have their places and should, for all intents and purposes, be held on an equal level. Unfortunately, the laws in my area (CA) generally preclude issuance of a CCW permit and also ban loaded open carry, making the citizens... er, subjects, carry their guns unloaded and open and subject to hassling by the police.

Hopefully the laws concerning OC and CC will change here in CA and we are hopeful that a favorable California Supreme Court in the Nordyke case will bring 2nd Amendment incorporation via the 14th Amendment and we will begin to challenge the BS laws here.

For my open carry stories and more info on CA gun laws, feel free to visit my blog.

http://caopencarry.blogspot.com

I look forward to comments and debate on this topic.

CARRY ON!

Sincerely,

N8

ETA: Wow, I only have one post on this site? How did that happen? Weird, I could have sworn I had a few more....
 
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