perhaps shtf, perhaps not scenario #1
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Steve Smith
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Right now I'd grab one of my match ARs and dump the weights. However, I have a really nice match M1A that, once proven to be reliable, will be my SHTF gun...I shoot both well.
Andrew Wyatt
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Interesting array of choices here.
Is the weapon you picked the one you train the most with?
Is the weapon you picked the one you train the most with?
Kestryll
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If I am limited to what I own I would have to go with the Mini-14 with scout-mounted red dot and a bunch of known reliable mags. It's probably not everyone's favorite but it's the most versatile one I own. By the way, even if the scenario calls for a rifle while I am in the safe I'm grabbing my Browning Hi-Power and spare mags. Sometimes YOU are your own backup!
If I can pick what I want, select-fire M-14 with 4x scope in see-thru rings and the requsite boatload of known reliable mags.
And the Death Star
If I can pick what I want, select-fire M-14 with 4x scope in see-thru rings and the requsite boatload of known reliable mags.
And the Death Star
J. Parker
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I'd take the only rifle I have.......an older left-handed Savage in 7mm Rem mag.
Jack19
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I'll stick with the Poodle Shooter....an AR for me please.
And yes it's the one I train with the most.
And yes it's the one I train with the most.
RustyHammer
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I'm going out to do something with a gun, but I don't know what it it? Sounds like a job for special forces, not me!
Just to play along, I'll toss my AR and some mags in the back of my Abrams M1A2 tank and tag along ....
/Rusty
Just to play along, I'll toss my AR and some mags in the back of my Abrams M1A2 tank and tag along ....
/Rusty
mephisto
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Enfield no4 mkII. 250 rounds. new pair of running shoes. 20 power bars. and some snuggles T/P.
Beetle Bailey
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Yes, my M38 Swedish Mauser is lighter and if I get more practice with the Enfield it would get the nod, but right now if I had to make a shot, I'd grab the Mosin Nagant.
Schuey2002
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No, that honor goes to my SL8-1, and that's only because its more affordable to shoot.
Andrew Wyatt
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I'm surprised no one's mentioned a steyr scout yet.
ShaiVong
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Snatch up the Bushmaster A2 20" with freefloating tube and bi-level EOTech Tactical Reflex Sight leaning against the wall next to the bed with a Bushmaster 10 round mag in it; shrug on the Blackhawk vest hanging next to it with 6 30rnd mags of Q3131A and 4 mags of Glock22 loaded with gold dot's, with the holster right on the chest.
5 seconds and I'm mobile with 190 rounds of 5.56 and 50 rounds of 40 S&W
5 seconds and I'm mobile with 190 rounds of 5.56 and 50 rounds of 40 S&W
greyhound
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Well, I only own a Mosin Nagant 91/30 and a Marlin 60 .22.
Methinks I'd slap the bayonet on the Mosin (guaranteed to scare any gangbanger/rioter if that is the situation) and roll out!
Methinks I'd slap the bayonet on the Mosin (guaranteed to scare any gangbanger/rioter if that is the situation) and roll out!
Daniel Flory, Pardon my delayed response to your post (and hi to my other fans!).
I just had to go out and quiz some other non-family folks about that point you brought up a few posts back, and addressed to me. I want to tell you what I found out!
You stated that the original premise here was we're “going out†period…end of story. That appeared to be all the thought you were willing or able to muster about it. You seemed unduly agitated when I had an opinion on the scenario of waking up and having to face some multiple troubles, armed only with a scoped bolt action rifle. Well, after quizzing four (4) very average, walkin’ around, everyday type adults about this very thread and its outline, to a person they said…..are you ready, Daniel?……they said.......“you’ll have to sleep sometimeâ€
You’ll have to sleep sometime. How profound - Huh! ..... and just what I was always thinking!
Conditions were never laid out in this thread as to what happens AFTER we are “outâ€, were they, Daniel. Will we be whisked away to lands unknown by a sexy supermodel in a H2 Hummer? Or immediately face 25 well-armed Islamic extremists? Or will we just be asked by a neighbor to help him make a very nasty animal room temperature.
What about other firearms? Is this rifle our only firearm? Or are we also allowed sidearms, shotguns, subguns, and grenades? Nobody ever said, Daniel, and you know what happens when you assume.
How about the duration? Is it to be 10 minutes? Two minutes? Four years? And what about the conditions? Conditions could be quite different right outside my front door, when compared to anyplace that the H2 could take me (and her) to.
Did I mention adversaries yet? Nope. Well......what shall we do about them? Will there be any - or will there be many. Daniel, as a forum-friend, I need to know if the bigger picture is happenin’ for you yet? I've personally found all this stuff to be so very, very basic.
Exceptions aside….IMO, the folks that chose the hard-hitting semi-autos here should do far better in a larger percentage of these scenarios (and most others), than those that chose the bolt guns, or anything less.
Besides, supermodels probably like them too.
I just had to go out and quiz some other non-family folks about that point you brought up a few posts back, and addressed to me. I want to tell you what I found out!
You stated that the original premise here was we're “going out†period…end of story. That appeared to be all the thought you were willing or able to muster about it. You seemed unduly agitated when I had an opinion on the scenario of waking up and having to face some multiple troubles, armed only with a scoped bolt action rifle. Well, after quizzing four (4) very average, walkin’ around, everyday type adults about this very thread and its outline, to a person they said…..are you ready, Daniel?……they said.......“you’ll have to sleep sometimeâ€
You’ll have to sleep sometime. How profound - Huh! ..... and just what I was always thinking!
Conditions were never laid out in this thread as to what happens AFTER we are “outâ€, were they, Daniel. Will we be whisked away to lands unknown by a sexy supermodel in a H2 Hummer? Or immediately face 25 well-armed Islamic extremists? Or will we just be asked by a neighbor to help him make a very nasty animal room temperature.
What about other firearms? Is this rifle our only firearm? Or are we also allowed sidearms, shotguns, subguns, and grenades? Nobody ever said, Daniel, and you know what happens when you assume.
How about the duration? Is it to be 10 minutes? Two minutes? Four years? And what about the conditions? Conditions could be quite different right outside my front door, when compared to anyplace that the H2 could take me (and her) to.
Did I mention adversaries yet? Nope. Well......what shall we do about them? Will there be any - or will there be many. Daniel, as a forum-friend, I need to know if the bigger picture is happenin’ for you yet? I've personally found all this stuff to be so very, very basic.
Exceptions aside….IMO, the folks that chose the hard-hitting semi-autos here should do far better in a larger percentage of these scenarios (and most others), than those that chose the bolt guns, or anything less.
Besides, supermodels probably like them too.
Andrew Wyatt
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eeh. a fellow with a bolt gun can do just fine at short range. my go to gun is an enfield.
The esteemed Mr Flory is an all the time CCW'er. That probably affected his decision.
admar: what type of vest is that? is that a south african or an ephod?
The esteemed Mr Flory is an all the time CCW'er. That probably affected his decision.
admar: what type of vest is that? is that a south african or an ephod?
AW. Good thread!
I own more bolt actions than anything else. They are my favorite firearm type. That said, I would never choose one in a completely unknown scenario like you've laid out here. Love and prejudices aside, they simply cannot cover as many bases as a semi-auto.
But I do agree that something has affected Mr. Flory.
I own more bolt actions than anything else. They are my favorite firearm type. That said, I would never choose one in a completely unknown scenario like you've laid out here. Love and prejudices aside, they simply cannot cover as many bases as a semi-auto.
But I do agree that something has affected Mr. Flory.
Andrew Wyatt
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eeh. Semi-auto operation is overrated, and there are many circumstances where it's not worth the poundage it adds.
a six pound .308 is nothing to sneeze at. also, there are many instances where a semi would be counterindicated for reliability sake. a semi is not as reliable as a bolt gun.
a six pound .308 is nothing to sneeze at. also, there are many instances where a semi would be counterindicated for reliability sake. a semi is not as reliable as a bolt gun.
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