That’s what I did the first time around. Since it was reversed I’ve put together a braced 10-22 Charger & 300 blackout.Trust NoBody!!!!, destroy your brace. They are terrible anyways
if you want a short barrel rifle, do your forms and put a real stock in it
What NOWAY!!! not the F Bee Eye and A F T changing their mind after the fact because Supreme Leader say so. NO!!!! WaY!!!So if you send in your braced pistol picture during the "Amnesty" period.
You are admitting to having an un registered short barreled rifle "a crime".
But since it is during an "Amnesty" period you are forgiven of that crime.
So shouldn't you be allowed to register the SBR without paying the $200.00?
Asking for a friend
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and remember, lying to them on form or person or phone call is process crime!Amnesty? No!
Registration? Yes!
I vaguely remember one way to "comply" with their new definition was to change out the barrel for a longer one... if a person does that but leaves the brace in place that would kind of be the result, or???I've never understood, if the brace is supposedly to be poofed into a stock why can't the owner simply use it on an... AR rifle?
GOOD CITIZEN pays taxes etc owns 2 guns. PistolA and RifleZ.
PistolA has a brace.
On XX/XX/20?? it becomes no go.
On XX/XX/20?? + 1 day, brace gets put on Rifle Z .
Or is that too simple a process without a congressional hearing, set up a committee and spend $2mil to reach same conclusion.
I vaguely remember one way to "comply" with their new definition was to change out the barrel for a longer one... if a person does that but leaves the brace in place that would kind of be the result, or???
What is the weight difference between the 16" barrel and the original 10.5" one?With a 16" or longer barrel it would just be a rifle with a brace on it. I did just that in Dec 2020 with one of my 10.5" pistols since the craptastic Radical Firearms barrel needed replaced anyways.
I used a Ballistics Advantage 16" barrel along with a slip over fake suppressor. I built it to mess with all of the "Karens" and range nazis that will tell you it is all illegal.
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With an 11.5" barrel, you will be over the 26" OAL, which the first section of the proposed rule exempts. So, it would be a pistol, until you add a VFG, in which case it would become a "firearm". At least until the AFT changes it mind, again...With a 16" or longer barrel it would just be a rifle with a brace on it.
With an 11.5" barrel, you will be over the 26" OAL, which the first section of the proposed rule exempts. So, it would be a pistol, until you add a VFG, in which case it would become a "firearm". At least until the AFT changes it mind, again...
1. The weapon must weigh at least 64 ounces.
2. The weapon must have an overall length between 12 and 26 inches.
Weapon must meet both Prerequisites in order to proceed to Section II.
Sorry if I sounded like I was calling you out about barrel/overall length. I wasn't, just adding another option for anyone reading. But can you clarify this last part? It sounds like you are saying that a "pistol", over 26" OAL, with a brace and VFG, would be an SBR, instead of a "firearm", which, if that is the case, I missed that change.Yes you can have a VFG if and only if the firearm is over 26" in OAL and barrel under 16" in OAL without it being an AOW. But with it will be considered a SBR if it has a brace attached.
Sorry if I sounded like I was calling you out about barrel/overall length. I wasn't, just adding another option for anyone reading. But can you clarify this last part? It sounds like you are saying that a "pistol", over 26" OAL, with a brace and VFG, would be an SBR, instead of a "firearm", which, if that is the case, I missed that change.
1. The weapon must weigh at least 64 ounces.
2. The weapon must have an overall length between 12 and 26 inches.
Weapon must meet both Prerequisites in order to proceed to Section II.
So, if they do decide your pistol with a brace is an unregistered SBR, even under the amnesty, will you then be required to pay the $200 tax stamp, since the amnesty was for braced pistols and not SBRs?The rule change is confusing and made to be so that the ATF can still consider a pistol with a brace an unregistered SBR even if it meets all the points. See the top portion of the Worksheet 4999
12 Bravo: The factoring criteria header specifies RIFLED firearms...............where do you extract the application to the smooth bored guns?
So, if they do decide your pistol with a brace is an unregistered SBR, even under the amnesty, will you then be required to pay the $200 tax stamp, since the amnesty was for braced pistols and not SBRs?
I am feeling this is the trap they are trying to lure braced pistol owners into with this promise of "amnesty," especially since they are requiring pictures of each of the braced pistols instead of just a description or serial number of the lower.
Something about this whole process seems questionable to me.
Well I think the fact that they are requiring us to send in pictures of our braced pistols might put the kibosh on that idea. I would love to do the same thing, but when I saw all the info they were requiring us to provide with our form 1 application, warning bells started clanging for me.Might have to get some of those cheap ones, just to get the SBR stamps. Then chunk them in the trash and put a decent stock on when I get the approved form 1…
Well I think the fact that they are requiring us to send in pictures of our braced pistols might put the kibosh on that idea.
That is the big question. If they do grant the amnesty, waive the $200 fee, and approve the form 1 on the braced pistol, will it only be good with that brace and not with a regular stock? Otherwise why are they asking for the pictures when they could just confirm the firearm with the serial number? I don't think anyone knows at this point.The rest shouldn’t be any different than when I SBR a rifle, as far as the Form 1/requirements. They would just be saving you the fee or are they wanting everyone to pony up the $200 too?