Pregnant couple attacked by 5 girls on bus

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http://www.king5.com/news/local/Police-shocked-by-vicious-attack-on-pregnant-teen--112021759.html
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5 girls get on a bus and one of them yanks the iPod out of a pregnant girls hands. She confronts them and gets gang attacked by the girls. The boyfriend steps in between them as a shield, but does nothing to stop them.

What's your reaction to this?

The knee jerk reaction would be to fight back against the girls. He gets kicked several times in the head so there was enough provocation. They were on the back of the bus, creating a bottle neck so he won't get ganged on by all 5. They're teenage girls, so it wouldn't be hard to get the physical advantage. The bus is full of witnesses if the girls try to blame it on him to the police.

On the passive side of things. What if one of them was armed? You can't draw a weapon on a crowded bus. If the situation does get worse, you're stuck on a bus (with a pregnant girlfriend) so you can't run away. Plus there's a common inhibition to not hit women.

*Edit Full length security video here
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That is a really tough situation. I don't think drawing a gun would be a good idea in this case just because it could get knocked from your hand. Go off and hit an innocent person. If I was in this situation I think I would have done what the boyfriend did or maybe even punched one of the girls back. I am totally against hitting females but if its defending one of my love ones I'll make an exception.
 
When I was younger, I guess I was more gentlemanly. I wouldn't have hit a girl for anything. Now that I am old and have seen the ways of the world, I would knock the fire out of any girl that put her hands on my pregnant girlfriend.
 
I am suprised the boyfriend kept his cool and handled it the way he did. I am a very peaceful person and generally walk away from any trouble I can walk away from. My first instinct would be to get off the bus when the trouble started but as things played out in the video there was no quick escape.

As soon as one of them assaulted my wife my switch would flip and I would stop the threat to my wife, even if it meant beating up a bunch of teenage girls. In this instance even if I was just a bystander I would have felt the need to intervene on behalf of a pregnant woman taking a beating.
 
I am not against hitting any female wanting to "man up" and hit me.
I would have punched anyone of them square on the chin with everything I had.
And would keep right on doing it until the physical attack on me or mine ceased.
Listen guys dont think for a minute a pack of five females would not be a physical force to reckon with.
 
I love that "all suspects have had their school-issued bus passes revoked and are banned from all metro buses for one year."

Damn. That'll teach 'em.

KR
 
In my state, it is unlawful to carry a gun on a bus---sooo I do not ride them.

Regarding drawing a weapon on a crowded bus, the tax-supported buses in my area usually have very few riders these days.
 
Those girls crossed the line. I would have done everything I could to make sure my girlfriend and baby did not get hurt. He did the right thing getting in between the attackers and his girlfriend.

I live outside the Seattle area and work in Seattle. There is to much of this going on. Maybe if some of these bystanders would have done something to help in these situations, we would not see this as often as we do. I could not just sit by and watch someone get attacked, would have to something.
 
Drawing a gun is out of the question, no one's life is at stake.

I am totally against hitting females
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I might have said that at one time. But I stepped in the middle of a man beating his wife violently when I was younger, only to get hit with a beer bottle in the back of the head by the beaten woman. I had an ex who worked with felonious youth, and I've seen girls that were every bit as much of a threat to your life as men. Aggressors are aggressors, sex is irrelevant. Times have changed. I''ll always be a gentleman and hold the door for ladies...and blah, blah, blah. But if a woman attacks me, as I said...sex is a non-issue.

When I was younger, I guess I was more gentlemanly. I wouldn't have hit a girl for anything. Now that I am old and have seen the ways of the world, I would knock the fire out of any girl that put her hands on my pregnant girlfriend.
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If 5 girls are attacking my pregnant significant other, they're gonna get a beating. I see two options:


  1. Look back and feel bad about knocking some woman's tooth out and hitting a few other women that were attacking my pregnant significant other for no reason.
  2. Look back and feel bad about getting beat down acting as a human shield which led to my pregnant SO still getting beaten and causing a miscarriage.
Edit::: The press got it right on the title: "Viscious Attack." Not "Viscious attack by females." No reason to react differently than if your loved one is attacked by men, gang members, meth-heads, dogs , aliens, smurfs...an attack is an attack. Act accordingly.
 
Im with leathermarshmallow, peoples respect for anything is long gone. I would do everything I could to resolve the situation as calmly as possible but as soon as THEY made it physical I would have layed into them and not thought twice about it
 
They were NOT teenage girls, they were hostile attackers threatening the life of the unborn child by physically assaulting the mother.

Five on one is not good odds, even if they are "teen age girls"... decisive action is required in such a situation.

Flattening the nose of the girl that struck the mother with your bare knuckles would be a good first response imo.

Keeping yourself in between the attackers and the mother and using the restrictive narrow lane of the bus aisle to address the remaining belligerents one on one is next.

These inner city street tough kids are monsters..... defend against them as such.
 
Flattening the nose of the girl that struck the mother with your bare knuckles would be a good first response imo.

Keeping yourself in between the attackers and the mother and using the restrictive narrow lane of the bus aisle to address the remaining belligerents one on one is next.
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Yep. You've got multiple attackers forced into a funnel, use that to your advantage.
 
I'm don't ride buses or any public transportation so forgive my ignorance.

Would OC have been legal to carry on the bus? I can see that being a viable option, it would most likely get them to back off allowing you a chance to put distance if only a few feet between them and your gf. From there you could fend off any other attempted attack and the girls would have a hard time seeing to know where/who to attack.
 
I saw that and my reaction was anger. In fact I believe I said bad words before 6 in the a.m.....I like yall's responses since they generally are what I think too...I would have responded with extreme violence. NO ONE hits my wife (or kids for that matter) pregnant or not. Much less so if she were...
 
I would not have regarded them as females in any way what so ever. 5 on a pregnant woman, sorry that is life threatening. I'd have started on them with everything I had.
 
The press got it right on the title: "Viscious Attack." Not "Viscious attack by females." No reason to react differently than if your loved one is attacked by men, gang members, meth-heads, dogs , aliens, smurfs...an attack is an attack. Act accordingly
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Post #9 by forumsurfer pretty much sums it up.

Anyways, I've always been a bit of a feminist; equal pay for equal work. If the girls' work happens to be gang banging and thuggery, no reason not to afford them the same "payout" as the male wannabes.
 
5 vs 1, and the 1 is my pregnant girlfriend? I'd use any non-lethal means available.

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Honestly, I may be a bit old school with holding open doors, greeting with sir and ma'am, and all that jazz.
However, if my girl was pregnant and someone pulled the same stunt you could bet the farm that I wouldn't let it pass come hell or high water. Luckily, my girl's not something meek and can take care of herself for the most part but 5v1 odds means I'm jumping in with no regrets.

As for drawing a weapon, I don't think I'd do it in such conditions. Some place more open? Sure. On such a crowded platform it becomes a liability; even with all the retention training in the world sometimes it's just impossible to hold onto something/use it effectively. And besides, if you haven't seen it before you should take a look at what hands and elbows can do to a person in close quarters.
 
Drawing a gun is out of the question, no one's life is at stake.
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In my highschool years, I witnessed a fight between three people - two on one, that ended up with one of the combatants on the ground being kicked in the head and neck after a single punch to the face. He sustained a serious concussion, and endured three surgeries to stabilize fractured vertebrae in his neck.

The point of that story is simple - never under-estimate the power of a well-placed or "lucky" punch. Fist-fights, even between well matched opponents, can easily turn deadly. Doubly so in a melee situation like this, where the option to attempt to escape/create distance between you and your attacker(s) is essentially nil. If the fella in the video had been rocked by one of the girl's punches or kicks and gone down, a couple good kicks to the dome could indeed prove fatal.

That being said, drawing a gun does indeed prove problematic in this situation, for obvious reasons. That's why all of us should consider implementing a multi-tiered approach to SD weaponry. For instance, while a gun poses more problems than benefits, a sturdy ASP style baton would be useful in keeping the girls at bay - grasped by both ends and held out in front of you, it makes a good makeshift barricade. Pepper spray could also be useful - granted it would likely affect others on the bus (as well as the good guy using it) but the effects could very well bring a full-on attack down to a screaming match.
 
Another thing about the assumption that nobody's life is at stake in a fist-fight: Not everyone is able to fight back as well as you are.

Case in point - I'm a big dude. Late 20's, 5'10", 300+ pounds. I'm built like a freakin' tank, and look the part. Heavily tattooed, barrel chest. But what you don't know is that I've got degenerative disc disease, and multiple damaged discs in my back. Most days, walking hurts.

If those girls had set upon me, I might have been able to fight them back - for awhile. Even if none of them landed a lucky punch, my stamina ain't what it used to be.

Long story short - assuming that a fist fight is not a potentially life-threatening affair, IMHO, is foolish.
 
I haven't clicked the link, but read the full story yesterday.

The REAL story is that the boyfriend is accused of stealing an Ipod or cell phone from one of the girls. They were attempting to get their property back.

That doesn't excuse the behavior, but it's just as well to point out that if your boyfriend is a thief, you might find yourself in a confrontation with his victims at some point.
 
Let me get this straight:

They forcefully TOOK the property from an expecting mother, then started assaulting the guy 5 on 1 by kicking him in the head? That's deadly force, period. There is no squeeze time while that is going on for the guy to wonder if "deadly force would be warranted here"; he's about to DIE!

What would I have done in this situation? Seems close enough for press contact to me :D

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Just read the above post about the REAL story. I take back my input, because in THAT situation, there were very few legal justifications for any of the things (from both parties) to happen.
 
Near where I live, a gang of girls knifed two Marines under a pier and stole their stuff. It's gettin' crazy out there!
 
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